I left an early post about a trip on the north umpqua scheduled for four days in late July. We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes. I was just wondering what to expect. For example I have a Specialized Expedition (probably a cheap bike on this groups standards) that only has standard brake pads. Should I get disc brake pads or will my brakes perform well enough for some of the declines? Should I bring any lubricant for the chain or fork suspension? And also what about an extra chain link just in case (I have been told that this is something I would not need). I realize the people in this group are probably used to more advanced mountain biking than I am and based on the responses to my last post my trip plans with two friends (who both have better bikes than I do) seems to have been taken as a joke. If anyone has some good advice for preperation I would really appreciate it.
I left an early post about a trip on the north umpqua scheduled for four days in late July. We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes. I was just wondering what to expect. For example I have a Specialized Expedition (probably a cheap bike on this groups standards) that only has standard brake pads. Should I get disc brake pads or will my brakes perform well enough for some of the declines? Should I bring any lubricant for the chain or fork suspension? And also what about an extra chain link just in case (I have been told that this is something I would not need). I realize the people in this group are probably used to more advanced mountain biking than I am and based on the responses to my last post my trip plans with two friends (who both have better bikes than I do) seems to have been taken as a joke. If anyone has some good advice for preperation I would really appreciate it.
Still sounds like a joke that someone so clueless would be doing a multi-day backcountry ride on a city bike. If you're serious and you're not trolling you're going to die out there.
Greg
-- "All my time I spent in heaven Revelries of dance and wine Waking to the sound of laughter Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
"Luke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I left an early post about a trip on the north umpqua scheduled for four days in late July. We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes. I was just wondering what to expect. For example I have a Specialized Expedition (probably a cheap bike on this groups standards) that only has standard brake pads. Should I get disc brake pads or will my brakes perform well enough for some of the declines? Should I bring any lubricant for the chain or fork suspension? And also what about an extra chain link just in case (I have been told that this is something I would not need). I realize the people in this group are probably used to more advanced mountain biking than I am and based on the responses to my last post my trip plans with two friends (who both have better bikes than I do) seems to have been taken as a joke. If anyone has some good advice for preperation I would really appreciate it.
Thanx,
Luke
don't be so touchy - all I did was ask if you were hauling a bob trailer or taking packs. Chain lube for cascade dust is a Duh item, as is a repair kit and the knowlegde of how to use it.
You should be prepared for ANYTHING. If you have to ask questions like "chain lube?" perhaps you are not adequately prepared.
I left an early post about a trip on the north umpqua scheduled for four days in late July. We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes.
IMO, having just gotten off the upper section of that trail, this is Not a Good Idea (tm).
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For example I have a Specialized Expedition (probably a cheap bike on this groups standards) that only has standard brake pads. Should I get disc brake pads or will my brakes perform well enough for some of the declines?
You do understand that you don't just "get disc brake pads", you have to change out your whole brake system?
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Should I bring any lubricant for the chain or fork suspension? And also what about an extra chain link just in case (I have been told that this is something I would not need).
The person that told you that was an idiot. I bring more repair stuff than that on my daily happy hour ride.
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If anyone has some good advice for preperation I would really appreciate it.
Get/hire a sag wagon.
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Still sounds like a joke that someone so clueless would be doing a multi-day backcountry ride on a city bike. If you're serious and you're not trolling you're going to die out there.
We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes
You have far more to worry about than just bike parts. The most obvious is water. Its not unusual to suck down most (or all) of a 100 oz camelbak on a long ride (I used to use a 72 oz, and would frequently run out on long rides). That's about 6 pounds for 100 oz of water alone, times four days is 24 pounds. Of course, your need for water doesn't end with the ride, so you're looking at mid-30 pounds just for basic water needs. When I say basic, I mean bare minimum - if you crash and lose some, you're screwed. If you get lost, you're screwed. And that weight doesn't even count the other stuff you'll need, of course.
People die in the wilderness fairly frequently here in Oregon, usually because they're inexperienced and unprepared and don't take it seriously. And here you are, a couple of newbies on comfort bikes planning on riding 100 miles carrying some 50 to 60 pounds of [censored] each, on trails that are considered difficult for experience riders carrying the most basic riding kit. Its probably wrong for us not to take you seriously, because what you're planning on doing is seriously foolish.
Geeze I didn't realize I would need so much water while traveling along the tributaries of the Umpqua. Thank you for pointing that out. Since I have never been on extended backpacking trips I would not know how to refill the water. Geez ... You mountain bikers are so knowledgeable in the outdoors. I don't know how you survive your marvelous expeditions. I am so glad I asked the opinion of such experienced people. I will from here on out hold mountain bike weekend warriors in the highest esteem. Mountain bikers rule .... the world would not turn without them. And people die in the wilderness frequently here!!! I did not know there was such a fear of anything so easy to surmount. perhaps that fact that I have survived many wilderness experiences means I am to good to be a mountain biker and I definately would not want to ruin your good names 😉
Cheers and get a life "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Luke said:
We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes
You have far more to worry about than just bike parts. The most obvious is water. Its not unusual to suck down most (or all) of a 100 oz camelbak on a long ride (I used to use a 72 oz, and would frequently run out on long rides). That's about 6 pounds for 100 oz of water alone, times four days is 24 pounds. Of course, your need for water doesn't end with the ride, so you're looking at mid-30 pounds just for basic water needs. When I say basic, I mean bare minimum - if you crash and lose some, you're screwed. If you get lost, you're screwed. And that weight doesn't even count the other stuff you'll need, of course.
People die in the wilderness fairly frequently here in Oregon, usually because they're inexperienced and unprepared and don't take it seriously. And here you are, a couple of newbies on comfort bikes planning on riding 100 miles carrying some 50 to 60 pounds of [censored] each, on trails that are considered difficult for experience riders carrying the most basic riding kit. Its probably wrong for us not to take you seriously, because what you're planning on doing is seriously foolish.
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Luke said:
We will be biking two days in and two days out for approximately a 100 mile round trip on the north umpqua trail in Oregon. We will be carrying all gear on bikes
You have far more to worry about than just bike parts. The most obvious is water. Its not unusual to suck down most (or all) of a 100 oz camelbak on a long ride (I used to use a 72 oz, and would frequently run out on long rides). That's about 6 pounds for 100 oz of water alone, times four days is 24 pounds. Of course, your need for water doesn't end with the ride, so you're looking at mid-30 pounds just for basic water needs. When I say basic, I mean bare minimum - if you crash and lose some, you're screwed. If you get lost, you're screwed. And that weight doesn't even count the other stuff you'll need, of course.
People die in the wilderness fairly frequently here in Oregon, usually because they're inexperienced and unprepared and don't take it seriously. And here you are, a couple of newbies on comfort bikes planning on riding 100 miles carrying some 50 to 60 pounds of [censored] each, on trails that are considered difficult for experience riders carrying the most basic riding kit. Its probably wrong for us not to take you seriously, because what you're planning on doing is seriously foolish.
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-- "All my time I spent in heaven Revelries of dance and wine Waking to the sound of laughter Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
You asked advice from experienced locals, got the requested advice, and then chose to disregard it. You'll probably live, have a good time even. But lucking out on one trip doesn't mean you're not an idiot. Keep up this attitude and you're in for serious trouble, sooner or later.
I just hope nobody else has to risk their neck saving your sorry ass. But they probably will, and you probably won't get it even then.
Geez ... You mountain bikers are so knowledgeable in the outdoors. I don't know how you survive your marvelous expeditions. I am so glad I asked the opinion of such experienced people.
Well you came across as a complete imbecile, so there was no reason to expect your survival knowledge was any better than you zero cycling knowledge. Its been a very dry summer and lot of creeks have dried up, you know (lemme guess, it never crossed your mind). We're always being told not to drink that water, but you're the big badass so it should be no problem. Or maybe you have a filter? Doubtful. Sure, I've drunk creek water several times and never got sick, but I was never having to depend on it 50 miles from a trailhead where would being sick would be a problem.
Fortunately for you, you'll be riding a bike that even the manufacturer won't go so far as to call a mountain bike, and it sounds like the trail is way beyond your skill level, and when something breaks you'll have no clue how to fix it. You'll never make it 50 miles in. Happy pushing.
You asked advice from experienced locals, got the requested advice, and then chose to disregard it. You'll probably live, have a good time even. But lucking out on one trip doesn't mean you're not an idiot. Keep up this attitude and you're in for serious trouble, sooner or later.
I just hope nobody else has to risk their neck saving your sorry ass. But they probably will, and you probably won't get it even then.
CC
Wait until he gets the bill from S&R. He'll wish he stayed at the Ritz Carlton instead of a bivy sack.
