North Rd Bunch - Wednesday

"Shabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Whats with the North Road bunch on Wednesdays at the moment? Why aren't people going hard on the
Tue/Thu days instead?

Ego? Lose race Sunday, make up for it in bunch ride on Wednesday?

hip

So why not do it at the "Hour of Power" instead? I doubt that anyone who is pushing the pace so high on the Wednesday's is turning up to the Tue/Thu as well, plus racing.

This bunch used to be a good bunch that was controlled on the easy days, saving it for the hard days. And it used to be 2 lines of riders.

It seems that everyone has forgotten the difference between a race and a training ride.

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So why not do it at the "Hour of Power" instead? I doubt that anyone who is pushing the pace so
high on the Wednesday's is turning up to the Tue/Thu as well, plus racing.

It's possible they are.

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This bunch used to be a good bunch that was controlled on the easy days, saving it for the hard
days. And it used to be 2 lines of riders.

It seems that everyone has forgotten the difference between a race and a training ride.

The Tuesday/Thursday bunch is out of control at the moment too. The pace is no higher than usual,
but the size of the bunch means 3,4 and at times 5 a breast and into the next lane. It's a disaster
waiting to happen IMO. I really think it's ego driven as weekday warriors try and stay up to the
front of the bunch to put in for the glory sprint. As the lines rarely rotate, except for the front
10 or so, champs create a new line to try and drive to the front, which of course, more champs jump
onto and so now there is a third lien, then a fourth etc etc.

It is by far the riskiest riding I do, more risky than commuting in traffic and by far more than any
racing I do.

IMO it has become more dangerous and out of control then the hell ride, and I question the risk vs.
gain ratio. I find myself riding more and more in the Brumbies bunch, but unfortunately at the
moment, the meeting of those two bunches is also crazy. I don't fear big bunch riding, I fear champs
who are so head down, [censored] up and desperate to hang on for the "big sprint" that they have detached
the derailer in their brain.

I have noticed a few of the older, regular guys have disappeared from the North Road ride and I see
them out on Beach Road in the mornings in a bunch where I don't know where it starts or finishes.

I was there this morning. As a new rider I was just trying to fit in and not make waves.
Unsuccessfully a couple of time when I got to the front after mordi and went to fast. Was nold in no
uncertain terms too. Nothing to do with ego on my part - just inexperience. Some people are really
good at telling you what to do and how while other are just [censored]. If everyone was like the
first there probably wouldn't be the problems.

"Shabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Whats with the North Road bunch on Wednesdays at the moment?

The accepted protocol was that it's a small chanring day, easy on the way out then back medium to
hard. Lately it's just been flat out all the way, with this morning's bunch splitting into 5
separate groups at one stage. Two weeks ago we sat on 45-50kph for over 10km according to my heart
rate monitor data. (Probably more, but I got dropped).

Why aren't people going hard on the Tue/Thu days instead?

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Well, there you go. Put a bunch of guys/gals together and bingo, they want to race each other.

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Originally posted by chippa
Well, there you go. Put a bunch of guys/gals together and bingo, they want to race each other.

Ignoramus.

Why not just race hard every day, 7 days a week then?

Take the shallow jersey and wear it with pride. Anyone can outsprint a world champion if he's on a recovery ride.

When do these rides set off each morning? From where?

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chippa said:

Well, there you go. Put a bunch of guys/gals together and bingo, they want to race each other.

Ignoramus.

Why not just race hard every day, 7 days a week then?

Take the shallow jersey and wear it with pride. Anyone can outsprint a world champion if he's on a
recovery ride.

Go back and check the thread fella, I think you lost something. Original point was that the ride is
supposed to be at recovery pace but has become race pace.

"Karl Nixon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When do these rides set off each morning? From where?

Corner of North Road and Nepean Highway, 6:00 am Monday-Friday. Mon/Wed/Fri easy days,
Tue/Thursday full on.

For an interesting article on this by 1992 Olympian Rob Crowe, see:

carnegiecycling.com.auHour%20of%20Open ↗ Power.html

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Originally posted by Rman
Go back and check the thread fella, I think you lost something. Original point was that the ride is
supposed to be at recovery pace but has become race pace. [/B]

I guess you didn't pick up on my sarcasm. I was responding to the comment by chippa, which seemed to suggest that any time a bunch forms it's going to be testosterone driven and hence race pace. I then past, this bunch wasn't like that, the hard stuff was saved for the hard days.

I started this thread, so I do understand the intent.