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  1. Here's how I do it using an electric smoker. Better than 90% of the BBQ
    joints around here.

    1 Boston butt pork roast 5-6 lbs (weight not critical), skin removed.

    Rub:

    8 TB light brown sugar
    3 TB salt
    1 TB chili powder
    1 tsp each black pepper, cayenne pepper, Old Bay seasoning
    1/2 tsp each thyme, onion powder, cinnamon

    Wood:

    3 or 4 chunks hickory wood soaked in water overnight.

    Combine rub ingredients and pat/rub all over the pork roast. Wrap in
    foil and refrigerate overnight.

    I use a Brinkman electric water smoker. Fill the pan 2/3 with water and
    place the rack on the lower position, just above the water pan. Plug in
    (outdoors of course) and let heat for 30 minutes. Meanwhile take the
    pork out of the fridge, remove foil, and let warm to room temp while the
    smoker heats. Place pork on the smoker rack and cover the smoker. Use
    the side door to place a wood chunk on the bottom. You want it near (an
    inch or so) but not actually touching the electric element. In half an
    hour or so you will see wisps of white smoke escaping around the edges
    of the smoker lid. The idea is to have the wood smoulder but never
    flame. When the wood is gone replace with another piece. For strongest
    smoky flavor keep the smoke coming for the full cooking period. For a
    lighter smoke flavor you can stop the smoke halfway thru.

    These electric smokers are pretty good at maintaining the correct temp,
    around 260-280. Do not open to peek too often! Cook for 8 hours. Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    Sauce:

    1 qt apple cider vinegar
    1 scant cup ketchup
    2/3c packed brown sugar
    1 tsp garlic powder
    1 TB salt
    1 TB crushed red pepper
    1 tsp ground black pepper
    1/8 tsp ground cloves

    Combine in a small saucepan and heat until sugar and salt are dissolved.
    Mix some with meat after pulling and pass the remainder at the table.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  2. Peter A said:

    Here's how I do it using an electric smoker. Better than 90% of the BBQ
    joints around here.

    1 Boston butt pork roast 5-6 lbs (weight not critical), skin removed.

    Rub:

    8 TB light brown sugar
    3 TB salt
    1 TB chili powder
    1 tsp each black pepper, cayenne pepper, Old Bay seasoning
    1/2 tsp each thyme, onion powder, cinnamon

    Wood:

    3 or 4 chunks hickory wood soaked in water overnight.

    Combine rub ingredients and pat/rub all over the pork roast. Wrap in
    foil and refrigerate overnight.

    I use a Brinkman electric water smoker. Fill the pan 2/3 with water and
    place the rack on the lower position, just above the water pan. Plug in
    (outdoors of course) and let heat for 30 minutes. Meanwhile take the
    pork out of the fridge, remove foil, and let warm to room temp while the
    smoker heats. Place pork on the smoker rack and cover the smoker. Use
    the side door to place a wood chunk on the bottom. You want it near (an
    inch or so) but not actually touching the electric element. In half an
    hour or so you will see wisps of white smoke escaping around the edges
    of the smoker lid. The idea is to have the wood smoulder but never
    flame. When the wood is gone replace with another piece. For strongest
    smoky flavor keep the smoke coming for the full cooking period. For a
    lighter smoke flavor you can stop the smoke halfway thru.

    These electric smokers are pretty good at maintaining the correct temp,
    around 260-280. Do not open to peek too often! Cook for 8 hours. Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    Sauce:

    1 qt apple cider vinegar
    1 scant cup ketchup
    2/3c packed brown sugar
    1 tsp garlic powder
    1 TB salt
    1 TB crushed red pepper
    1 tsp ground black pepper
    1/8 tsp ground cloves

    Combine in a small saucepan and heat until sugar and salt are dissolved.
    Mix some with meat after pulling and pass the remainder at the table.


    Why do you pull all the skin off? I would think you would lose all that natural
    flavor and juice.

    Chris
    Eastern NC

  3. Peter A said:

    Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    Why don't you just leave it on the smoker for a couple hours longer? The
    smoker is 280F and the oven is 300F. Seems like unnecessary steps with
    extra cleanup involved.

    jay

  4. jay said:
    Peter A said:

    Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300
    degree oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped,
    for 1 hour before pulling.

    Why don't you just leave it on the smoker for a couple hours longer?
    The smoker is 280F and the oven is 300F. Seems like unnecessary
    steps with extra cleanup involved.

    'Cause he don't know 'Q from his ass.

    --
    "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!"
    Dave
    www.davebbq.com

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    Why don't you just leave it on the smoker for a couple hours longer? The
    smoker is 280F and the oven is 300F. Seems like unnecessary steps with
    extra cleanup involved.

    jay

    The first time I tried this the mosquitoes came out in force after 8
    hours, so I did not want to go outside any more. It works, that's what's
    important. No extra clean up because the pork is wrapped in foil while
    in the oven - a different environment from the smoker which may affect
    the taste.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  6. Peter A said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    Why don't you just leave it on the smoker for a couple hours longer? The
    smoker is 280F and the oven is 300F. Seems like unnecessary steps with
    extra cleanup involved.

    jay

    The first time I tried this the mosquitoes came out in force after 8
    hours, so I did not want to go outside any more. It works, that's what's
    important. No extra clean up because the pork is wrapped in foil while
    in the oven - a different environment from the smoker which may affect
    the taste.

    Ok..I liked the flavors/ingredients in the sauce that you posted. I have
    cooked a lot of pork but I have never done "pulled" pork. 1QT of vinegar
    sounds like a lot in relation to the portions of the other ingredients.
    Was that correct at 1QT? Is it really sour? I am going to give this a
    try. Thanks..

    jay

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The first time I tried this the mosquitoes came out in force after 8
    hours, so I did not want to go outside any more. It works, that's what's
    important. No extra clean up because the pork is wrapped in foil while
    in the oven - a different environment from the smoker which may affect
    the taste.

    Ok..I liked the flavors/ingredients in the sauce that you posted. I have
    cooked a lot of pork but I have never done "pulled" pork. 1QT of vinegar
    sounds like a lot in relation to the portions of the other ingredients.
    Was that correct at 1QT? Is it really sour? I am going to give this a
    try. Thanks..

    jay

    North Carolina has 2 BBQ traditions, eastern which has a vinegar/hot
    pepper based sauce, and western which is tomato based. I live in the
    middle of the state so invented this hybrid. With the sugar, it ends up
    being more of a sweet-sour taste.

    But you are right - a quart of vinegar sounds like a lot. I wonder if I
    wrote it down wrong. I'd try with 1 cup and see how it tastes, please
    let me know.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  8. Peter A said:

    Here's how I do it using an electric smoker. Better than 90% of the BBQ
    joints around here.

    1 Boston butt pork roast 5-6 lbs (weight not critical), skin removed.

    Rub:

    8 TB light brown sugar
    3 TB salt
    1 TB chili powder
    1 tsp each black pepper, cayenne pepper, Old Bay seasoning
    1/2 tsp each thyme, onion powder, cinnamon

    Wood:

    3 or 4 chunks hickory wood soaked in water overnight.

    Combine rub ingredients and pat/rub all over the pork roast. Wrap in
    foil and refrigerate overnight.

    I use a Brinkman electric water smoker. Fill the pan 2/3 with water and
    place the rack on the lower position, just above the water pan. Plug in
    (outdoors of course) and let heat for 30 minutes. Meanwhile take the
    pork out of the fridge, remove foil, and let warm to room temp while the
    smoker heats. Place pork on the smoker rack and cover the smoker. Use
    the side door to place a wood chunk on the bottom. You want it near (an
    inch or so) but not actually touching the electric element. In half an
    hour or so you will see wisps of white smoke escaping around the edges
    of the smoker lid. The idea is to have the wood smoulder but never
    flame. When the wood is gone replace with another piece. For strongest
    smoky flavor keep the smoke coming for the full cooking period. For a
    lighter smoke flavor you can stop the smoke halfway thru.

    These electric smokers are pretty good at maintaining the correct temp,
    around 260-280. Do not open to peek too often! Cook for 8 hours. Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    Sauce:

    1 qt apple cider vinegar
    1 scant cup ketchup
    2/3c packed brown sugar
    1 tsp garlic powder
    1 TB salt
    1 TB crushed red pepper
    1 tsp ground black pepper
    1/8 tsp ground cloves

    Combine in a small saucepan and heat until sugar and salt are dissolved.
    Mix some with meat after pulling and pass the remainder at the table.

    This sounds fantastic Peter...I've got no smoker though.

    --
    "I'm thinking that if this dilemma grows any more horns, I'm going to
    shoot it and put it up on the wall."

    - Harry Dresden

  9. Peter A said:

    These electric smokers are pretty good at maintaining the correct temp,
    around 260-280. Do not open to peek too often! Cook for 8 hours. Remove
    pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan and in a 300 degree
    oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let sit, wrapped, for 1 hour
    before pulling.

    You really need to take the temp of the pork butt to know when
    it's done. You can't rely on time alone. Two pork butts, of the
    same weight will never take the same amount of time to cook (maybe
    if they're from the same pig).

    For pulled pork, the butt needs to get to 190F-195F internally.

    -sw

  10. ravenlynne said:

    This sounds fantastic Peter...I've got no smoker though.

    I don't recommend the electric Brinkman, but you can get the
    wood-fired Brinkman Gourmet for under $45 at a Home Depot or
    Lowe's. It doubles as a small grill, too.

    -sw

  11. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    You really need to take the temp of the pork butt to know when
    it's done. You can't rely on time alone. Two pork butts, of the
    same weight will never take the same amount of time to cook (maybe
    if they're from the same pig).

    For pulled pork, the butt needs to get to 190F-195F internally.

    Crapola. You obviously do not understand the process of slow cooking,
    which is very different from cooking meat, such as a rib roast, that is
    inherently tender. Slow cooking, such as for stews, requires that the
    meat be kept at cooking temp for a long period so the collagen in the
    meat breaks down making it tender. Bringing the butt to a certain temp
    is not enough - it's cooking it for long enough that is the key.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  12. Steve Wertz said:
    ravenlynne said:

    This sounds fantastic Peter...I've got no smoker though.

    I don't recommend the electric Brinkman, but you can get the
    wood-fired Brinkman Gourmet for under $45 at a Home Depot or
    Lowe's. It doubles as a small grill, too.

    -sw

    Wonder if they'll ship here. Not a whole lot of those in Italy.

    --
    "All of those faeries and duels and mad queens and so on, and no one
    quoted old Billy Shakespeare. Not even once."
    - Harry Dresden

  13. Peter A said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    You really need to take the temp of the pork butt to know when
    it's done. You can't rely on time alone. Two pork butts, of the
    same weight will never take the same amount of time to cook (maybe
    if they're from the same pig).

    For pulled pork, the butt needs to get to 190F-195F internally.

    Crapola. You obviously do not understand the process of slow cooking,
    which is very different from cooking meat, such as a rib roast, that is
    inherently tender. Slow cooking, such as for stews, requires that the
    meat be kept at cooking temp for a long period so the collagen in the
    meat breaks down making it tender. Bringing the butt to a certain temp
    is not enough - it's cooking it for long enough that is the key.

    Yeah you're right. I've only smoked 700-1,000 lbs of pork at home
    in my life.

    Note where I said, "You can't rely on time alone". Yes, you do
    have to cook it slow for BBQ, but you *can* cook it at 350-375,
    and it will still be pullable when it reaches 190.. But in no way
    can you say "cook a pork butt [for pulled pork] for 7 hours and
    it'll be done.", which simply is *not* true.

    Dave was right. You are in idiot (or whatever choice words he
    said). I suspect he's tried to set you right on this before and
    you still didn't listen.

    -sw

  14. Steve Wertz said:
    Peter A said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    You really need to take the temp of the pork butt to know when
    it's done. You can't rely on time alone. Two pork butts, of the
    same weight will never take the same amount of time to cook (maybe
    if they're from the same pig).

    For pulled pork, the butt needs to get to 190F-195F internally.

    Crapola. You obviously do not understand the process of slow
    cooking, which is very different from cooking meat, such as a rib
    roast, that is inherently tender. Slow cooking, such as for stews,
    requires that the meat be kept at cooking temp for a long period so
    the collagen in the meat breaks down making it tender. Bringing the
    butt to a certain temp is not enough - it's cooking it for long
    enough that is the key.

    Yeah you're right. I've only smoked 700-1,000 lbs of pork at home
    in my life.

    Note where I said, "You can't rely on time alone". Yes, you do
    have to cook it slow for BBQ, but you can cook it at 350-375,
    and it will still be pullable when it reaches 190.. But in no way
    can you say "cook a pork butt [for pulled pork] for 7 hours and
    it'll be done.", which simply is not true.

    Dave was right. You are in idiot (or whatever choice words he
    said). I suspect he's tried to set you right on this before and
    you still didn't listen.

    Temperature is not only the right way, it's the EASY way when you have
    probe thermometer.

    The only time I've used an oven as part of cooking a butt was my first
    time (using the Weber kettle). I wasn't good at setting the temp on
    that, and I started too late in the day, so I didn't get it done by the
    time I wanted to quit and go to bed. I brought it in and finished in
    the oven the next day, not wanting to refire the grill.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)


  15. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Note where I said, "You can't rely on time alone". Yes, you do
    have to cook it slow for BBQ, but you can cook it at 350-375,
    and it will still be pullable when it reaches 190.. But in no way
    can you say "cook a pork butt [for pulled pork] for 7 hours and
    it'll be done.", which simply is not true.


    Then why have I done it by time, not temperature, dozens of times and it
    is always great? And why do you never, and I mean NEVER, see a
    thermometer used in the various well-known BBQ joints around here? The
    pit bosses would laugh you into the next county if you suggested a
    thermometer.

    People have been cooking BBQ and other meats by the time/temperature
    method for centuries, I suppose they were all wrong too.

    Your method may work fine, but so does mine. For you to say it doesn't
    just reveals your ignorance.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  16. Peter A said:

    Then why have I done it by time, not temperature, dozens of times and it
    is always great? And why do you never, and I mean NEVER, see a
    thermometer used in the various well-known BBQ joints around here? The
    pit bosses would laugh you into the next county if you suggested a
    thermometer.

    Once you get it down, there are other ways to tell if it's done.
    The fork test, and the bend test are the most popular methods. For
    ribs especially,m I can tell by how far the meat has shunk upt he
    bones, or for but, hoew far the meat has pulled away from the
    blade.

    But every BBQ pro will tell you, it's done at a certain
    temperature, no matter how you tell that temperature.

    Quoted message said:

    People have been cooking BBQ and other meats by the time/temperature
    method for centuries, I suppose they were all wrong too.

    You said temperature...

    Quoted message said:

    Your method may work fine, but so does mine. For you to say it doesn't
    just reveals your ignorance.

    Whatever. You also wrap in foil and finish in the oven. I
    suppose all the BBQ pros do that, too?

    -sw

  17. Peter A said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Note where I said, "You can't rely on time alone". Yes, you do
    have to cook it slow for BBQ, but you can cook it at 350-375,
    and it will still be pullable when it reaches 190.. But in no way
    can you say "cook a pork butt [for pulled pork] for 7 hours and
    it'll be done.", which simply is not true.


    Then why have I done it by time, not temperature, dozens of times and
    it is always great? And why do you never, and I mean NEVER, see a
    thermometer used in the various well-known BBQ joints around here? The
    pit bosses would laugh you into the next county if you suggested a
    thermometer.

    They go by tenderness and pullability. They grab a bone and twist. Or they
    flip the carcass and see how it slides on the rack. Or they take a rack of
    ribs and bend 'em to see if they crack. They never go by time alone.

    Quoted message said:

    People have been cooking BBQ and other meats by the time/temperature
    method for centuries, I suppose they were all wrong too.

    No, you only *think* people went by time/temperature. They actually went by
    when the meat was done. And for several shoulders of the same weight, that
    could be a spread of several hours.

    Quoted message said:

    Your method may work fine, but so does mine. For you to say it doesn't
    just reveals your ignorance.

    Right. Your method of timed bbq works just fine. <snork>

    --
    "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!"
    Dave
    www.davebbq.com

  18. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    People have been cooking BBQ and other meats by the time/temperature
    method for centuries, I suppose they were all wrong too.

    You said temperature...

    Cooking temperature, you nitwit, not internal temperature. Sheesh, you
    and Dave have about 1/2 of a wit between you.

    --
    Peter Aitken

  19. Peter A said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Note where I said, "You can't rely on time alone". Yes, you do
    have to cook it slow for BBQ, but you can cook it at 350-375,
    and it will still be pullable when it reaches 190.. But in no way
    can you say "cook a pork butt [for pulled pork] for 7 hours and
    it'll be done.", which simply is not true.


    Then why have I done it by time, not temperature, dozens of times and
    it is always great? And why do you never, and I mean NEVER, see a
    thermometer used in the various well-known BBQ joints around here?
    The pit bosses would laugh you into the next county if you suggested
    a thermometer.

    Likely true, but you draw wrong conclusion. What those pitmasters will
    tell you is, "It's done when it's done." They cook by touch and feel,
    and sticking it with a fork. Not by time.

    Quoted message said:

    Your method may work fine, but so does mine. For you to say it
    doesn't just reveals your ignorance.

    Nonsense. Strict time on BBQ is folly. Temperature is one way of doing
    it quite easily for anybody.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  20. Steve Wertz said:
    Peter A said:

    These electric smokers are pretty good at maintaining the correct
    temp, around 260-280. Do not open to peek too often! Cook for 8
    hours. Remove pork and re-wrap in the foil. Place in a baking pan
    and in a 300 degree oven for 1-2 hours. Remove from oven and let
    sit, wrapped, for 1 hour before pulling.

    You really need to take the temp of the pork butt to know when
    it's done. You can't rely on time alone. Two pork butts, of the
    same weight will never take the same amount of time to cook (maybe
    if they're from the same pig).

    For pulled pork, the butt needs to get to 190F-195F internally.

    -sw

    --
    "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!"
    Dave
    www.davebbq.com

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