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  1. I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value. I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes :-)

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

  2. Quoted message said:

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value. I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes :-)

    My favorite way is roasted. Toss with a little olive oil and salt,
    roast at 400F until it's good and browned. Yumma!

    Quoted message said:

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    I only buy them at the store, so I can't help you there.

    Serene

  3. Quoted message said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?


    (snippage)

    Quoted message said:

    David

    Slice into 1/2 inch pieces and dredge in an egg wash and then in cornmeal
    and pan fry in corn oil until crispy and golden brown

    Jill

  4. email hidden said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value. I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes :-)

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

    Hi David

    I also like okra but seldom cook it because my family doesn't like it.

    You don't necessarily have to make a full blown gumbo with okra, you
    can cook it the way they cook it in Greece and in Cyprus. It's like a
    stew. What you do is: after cleaning the okra you fry it in a little
    olive oil, together with sliced onions and garlic. After a few
    minutes you throw in a can of peeled tomatoes (or 2, depending on the
    quantity you are making) together with the liquid. Let the okra
    simmer till cooked and saucy. Season with sea salt and pepper and a
    pinch of dried oregano.

    Yummm!
    Victoria
    http://www.squidoo.com/tastefulcooking

  5. jmcquown said:
    Quoted message said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?


    (snippage)

    Quoted message said:

    David

    Slice into 1/2 inch pieces and dredge in an egg wash and then in cornmeal
    and pan fry in corn oil until crispy and golden brown

    Jill

    Dang it...that was my suggestion...lol

    My grammy used to pickle it. They're yummy that way.

  6. email hidden said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is.  I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste.  I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value.  I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes   :-)

    Supplementary question.  If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds.  Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

    Make spicey pickles with them, they're especially good with bloody
    marys.

  7. J.R. said:
    email hidden said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    David

    Make spicey pickles with them, they're especially good with bloody
    marys.

    I can't begin to tell you how gross that sounds.

    --
    See return address to reply by email

  8. [email hidden] wrote:
    .. Is there any common use for these

    Quoted message said:

    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

    andy writes:
    If a pod gets too tough to bother with picking, I leave it on
    the plant. At end of life when the plant dries up, the seeds in
    the pod can be used for next year's garden....

    I've recently been surfing for some new okra recipes that don't
    involve frying or mixing with much other stuff.... Apparently one can
    microwave the pods for a couple minutes, just like with carrots
    or onions. I'll try it when my new crop comes in....If it works,
    it'll be a nice, quick snack...

    Also, as one of the other posters here mentioned, baking
    them. I'll try that also....

    Andy in Eureka, Texas

  9. jmcquown said:
    Quoted message said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly
    surprised at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find
    myself with a surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what
    to do with it so just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much
    experience with it, what can I make aside from gumbo?


    (snippage)

    Quoted message said:

    David

    Slice into 1/2 inch pieces and dredge in an egg wash and then in
    cornmeal and pan fry in corn oil until crispy and golden brown

    Jill

    The only way to enjoy okra outside as a natural thickener in gumbo is fried
    okra. It's simply nasty any other way.

  10. Jill said:

    The only way to enjoy okra outside as a natural thickener in
    gumbo is fried okra. It's simply nasty any other way.

    Billions of people in India, Pakistan, Indonesia, and Malaysia would
    disagree. Okra is common in curries.

    Bob

  11. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value. I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes :-)

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

    With apologies to Alan Zelt for modifying his excellent lutefisk recipe,
    this (IMO) is the only way to prepare okra:

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Okra Preparation

    Recipe modified By : Me
    Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :1:00
    Categories : Barbeque, Southern, Traditional

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1 bushel Okra
    5 sticks firewood
    1 quart gasoline
    1 750ml Gentleman Jack -- poured over ice, optional

    Pour a glass of Gentleman Jack, (ice or not is optional). Take a healthy
    drink,
    because this preparation is man's work.

    Dig a hole in your backyard. About 3ft deep should be sufficient.

    To this hole, add the Okra and then the five fireplace logs.

    Douse wood with the gasoline. Step back, and ignite the wood. Ensure
    that the fire is on high.

    Sit back, away from the fire, on a comfortable chair. Take another
    drink.

    In about 15 minutes, the fire should have died down. Stir the embers,
    until there is a consistency throughout of fine soot.

    So that you remember this happy occasion, pour a shot of vodka into the
    embers, uttter "thank God," and go inside and have a great dinner.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Suggested Wine: Finlandia
    Serving Ideas : Before eating a good meal.

    NOTES : After you have bought a okra, you will need a good method of
    preparation. While this preparation method is a bit unconventional, it
    will satisfy all unnatural cravings for okra.

  12. Quoted message said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?


    They can of course be added to any vegetable soup. I love them dearly. I
    know others pickle them.
    This is the best fried okra I've ever made.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Fried Okra

    Recipe By :Southern Living, May 1987
    Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : Vegetables

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1 pound okra -- 1/ 2 inch slices
    3 tablespoons all-purpose flour
    2 egg whites
    1 1/2 cups bread crumbs
    vegetable oil for frying
    salt

    This comes from the Southern Living magazine cookbook, May 1987

    Wash okra, drain well. Remove stems and tips. Cut into 1/2 inch
    slices. Coat with flour (I just tossed all together in bowl)
    Beat egg whites (at room temp) until stiff peaks form. Fold into okra.
    Stir in bread crumbs, coating okra well.
    Deep fry okra in hot oil (375 degrees) until golden brown. drain on
    paper towels and sprinkle with salt.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Smothered Okra and Tomatoes

    Recipe By :Gourmet Magazine
    Serving Size : 10 Preparation Time :0:20
    Categories : Vegetables

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    2 pounds okra
    3 cups chopped onions
    2 cups chopped celery
    3 cups chopped, peeled and seeded tomatoes, -- or 3
    cups canned
    5 bay leaves
    1/3 cup vegetable oil
    1 Tablespoon plus 1 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon cayenne
    1/2 teaspoon freshly ground pepper
    1 teaspoon thyme
    2 tablespoons chopped garlic

    Preheat oven to 300 degrees
    Wash the okra under cool water. Cut off stems and slice each pod
    crosswise into 1/2 inch rounds
    Combine the okra and the rest of the indgredients in a large heavy oven
    proof pot, not cast iron. Mix well.
    Bake covered, stirring occasionally for 1 1/2 to 2 hours, or until the
    slime has disappeared.
    Bake uncovered for the last 15 min. of cooking time. The time may vary
    depending on the tenderness of the okra.
    Remove bay leaves and serve or let cool completely and store in freezer
    containers.

  13. email hidden said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value. I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes :-)

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

    Toss the young pods with oil and soy sauce and a little lemon juice.
    Then grill them till they begin to caramelize.

    Mature pods are too fibrous -- as you noted -- for good eating. We
    used to let them dry and my mom made decorative arrangements with
    them. It was a 60s thing, I guess.
    --

    modom

    http://www.koyote.com/users/modom/home.html

  14. sf said:
    J.R. said:
    email hidden said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    David

    Make spicey pickles with them, they're especially good with bloody
    marys.

    I can't begin to tell you how gross that sounds.

    Actually, they're very good.
    --

    modom

    http://www.koyote.com/users/modom/home.html

  15. modom (palindrome guy) said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Make spicey pickles with them, they're especially good with bloody
    marys.


    I can't begin to tell you how gross that sounds.

    Actually, they're very good.
    --

    modom

    I love the Hot Pickled Okra from Texas on can buy in the jars! Eating a
    half dozen at sitting is very easy to do.

  16. David said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    Having spent most of my adult life in Oklahoma (transplanted from
    California, but soon to be there again) I have had a lot of experience
    with growing okra (and eating it!)

    My preferred styles of okra are fried and pickled. Must concur with
    whoever said that spicy pickled okra are great in Bloody Marys ....
    Much better (to me) than celery or even pickled green beans.

    Quoted message said:

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    You have to cut them early. We never found a good way of eating them
    when they got all large and tough like that. If there was more coming
    on than we could consume, mom would go ahead and prep them for frying
    (cornmeal breading) and then would just put the lot in a zip lock back
    and freeze it, so we had orka all through the year.

    I am really looking forward to vegetable gardening again -- but not
    sure if we will have enough room for a large bed of okra. It does take
    up space.

    Christine will be in town tomorrow night and the place I plan on
    taking her for barbecue does a good job with okra.

    --Lin

  17. email hidden said:

    I grew okra for the first time this year and I am pleasantly surprised
    at how attractive and prolific the plant is. I now find myself with a
    surplus and none of the neighbours have any idea what to do with it so
    just giving it away is a waste. I don't have much experience with it,
    what can I make aside from gumbo?

    I know I can google for 10000 recipes but often these are just copied
    around indefinitely with no indication their value. I am hoping for
    recommendations from those who actually cook and enjoy okra not those
    who reproduce recipes :-)

    Supplementary question. If you fail to cut them when young, this can
    be a matter of one or two days more on the bush, the larger pods get
    rather fibrous and full of seeds. Is there any common use for these
    (other than compost) that avoids the rough texture?

    David

    These are recipes I make regularly in the summertime. I don't have a
    garden, but okra is plentiful and cheap at our local farmer's market.

    My father taught me to mash the okra pod between my thumb and
    forefinger and if the pod cracks or splits then it's compost. If it
    doesn't, then I use it.

    The first, okra patties, is our favorite and I make it on on a griddle
    on my grill. I make the second, grilled okra, when I'm not in the mood
    to bother with okra patties. Pickled okra is good with sandwiches and
    salads.

    Okra Patties

    1 pound Okra, tops removed.
    1/2 cup finely diced onion
    1 tsp salt
    pepper to taste
    1 tsp baking powder
    1 egg, slightly beaten
    1/2 cup water
    1/2 cup flour
    1/2 cup cornmeal
    1/2 tsp garlic powder or chopped garlic to taste, optional
    Cooking oil of choice (I use light olive oil)

    Process okra in a food processor until finely chopped. You want the
    largest pieces to be about the size of a pea. remove to a large bowl.
    Combine wet ingredients and add to okra. Combine dry ingredients and
    add to Okra. If you have done it right, you will have a big wad of
    glop.

    Preheat a griddle. Add oil. It helps to have a bowl of oil reserved on
    the side. Using a 1/4 cup measure, dig 1/4 cup of the mixture out of
    the wad of glop and place on the griddle. Working quickly, take your
    spatula and dip it into the reserved oil so it doesn't stick to the
    okra, and flatten the patty to about 1/4 inch thickness. This step is
    very important. If you don't get the patty thin enough it will be raw
    in the middle. As you flatten it it will spread. I can get about 4
    patties on my griddle at one time.

    Repeat with as many patties as you want. As you turn each patty, add a
    little more oil to the griddle. This is important to help cook the
    middle of the patties.

    Cook until Okra is brown on both sides. Note that here in the southern
    United States okra is not done until some of it is black, and that's
    the way I cook it. If it's not TOO black, it doesn't taste burned, but
    rather has a nice smokey taste.

    This recipe makes about eight patties. When I make it, I make half one
    night and the rest the next night. It keeps nicely overnight in the
    refrigerator, but no longer than that.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Grilled (or broiled) Okra
    Preparation Time: 10 minutes
    Cooking Time: 10 minutes

    Eighteen 12-inch wooden skewers, soaked in water for at
    least 30 minutes

    1 pound small-medium okra pods
    2 teaspoons freshly squeezed lemon juice
    2 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil
    Coarse sea salt
    1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
    1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper

    Preheat grill or broiler. Wash the okra under cold running water and
    dry with paper towels. In a large bowl, combine the lemon juice, olive
    oil, 1 teaspoon salt, the cayenne, and black pepper and mix well. Add
    the okra to the marinade and toss to coat. Thread 5 to 7 okra pods
    onto 2 skewers each (to keep okra in place).

    If grilling, place the skewers on the grill and cook until browned and
    slightly crisp, 3 to 4 minutes per side, turning with tongs
    frequently.

    If broiling, place the skewers about 3 inches from the heat and broil
    until browned and slightly crisp, 3 to 4 minutes per side, turning
    with tongs frequently.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Quick Pickled Okra

    1 lb okra
    6 tablespoons kosher salt
    2 c water
    3 c distilled vinegar
    2 tablespoon sugar
    2 bay leaves
    1/4-1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
    1 teaspooon brown mustard seeds
    2 c sliced onions

    Soak okra briefly in cold water. Drain. Toss in 3 T salt. Drain 1
    hour.

    Combine water, vinegar, remaining salt, sugar & spices in a
    nonreactive saucepan over medium heat. Stir to boil. Add onions.
    Cook 1 minute.

    Rinse okra in cool water. Place in large plastic container. Cover with
    brine mixture and stir.

    Cover & refrigerate at least 6 hours. Best used after 3 days in
    fridge. Will keep about a month, but they don't last that long in my
    house.

  18. jmcquown said:

    The only way to enjoy okra outside as a natural thickener in gumbo is fried
    okra. It's simply nasty any other way.

    Have you roasted it? I was surprised at how good it was.

    Serene

  19. Bob Terwilliger said:
    Jill said:

    The only way to enjoy okra outside as a natural thickener in
    gumbo is fried okra. It's simply nasty any other way.

    Billions of people in India, Pakistan, Indonesia, and Malaysia would
    disagree. Okra is common in curries.

    Bob

    Which explains why I dislike curry so much.

  20. ravenlynne said:
    Quoted message said:

    I love the Hot Pickled Okra from Texas on can buy in the jars! Eating
    a half dozen at sitting is very easy to do.

    I miss being able to buy those...

    The commissary sold them in Germany years ago. Check the pickle aisle.

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