Nokian Tires

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So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet

price.

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I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed
wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other recomendations?

I'm

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an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing, mostly endurance
races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

Jason

I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are heavier
than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much heavier at
all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you are on
rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up suspension.
Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which
really prevent sliding.

Dan V

slartibartfast said:

So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet price.
I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed
wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other recomendations? I'm
an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing, mostly endurance
races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

They make good tires just as they make good phones - go for it.

Regards

Bruno

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So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet
price. I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores
for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs
for my tubles wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires?
other recomendations? I'm an agresive cross country rider who does a
bit of racing, mostly endurance races like the Vermont 50, and some
24 hour races.

Jason

I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....

Try asking Shaun about the Gazzalodis. I think that he's running them at
the moment.
I'm running the 2.1 UST NBX's at the moment. To be perfectly honest I'm not
overly impressed with them on anything but smooth dry hardpack, clay or
rock. They grip like suction cups on the tarmac. They grip very nicely in
those conditions. I've found that they get twitchy on anything loose and
they are not good in the damp or wet and slippery stuff like grass, damp
stones, or leaves. The tread pattern doesn't appear to be very aggressive
so that's to be expected. Your conditions may vary.
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Quoted message said:

So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet

price.

Quoted message said:

I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed
wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other recomendations?

I'm

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an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing, mostly endurance
races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

I've run both the Gazz 2.3's and 2.6's (latter currently, and for the
foreseeable future), and have become rather fanatical about them. No other
tyre of their size has come close in traction performance and overall
toughness. The 2.6's are damned heavy, mind, and the 2.3's a little more so
than their contemporaries, for the most part. If these are anything to go
by, then the 2.1's are going to be the shiznit, as they say.

HTH some!

Shaun aRe

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So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet

price.

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I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed
wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other recomendations?

I'm

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an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing, mostly

endurance

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races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

Jason

I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are heavier
than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much heavier

at

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all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you are

on

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rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up suspension.
Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which
really prevent sliding.

I'd go as far as to state, it is a fact, they are the best damned 2.6
aggressive tyres on the market, by a wide margin.

The 2.3's don't have as thick a sidewall as the 2.6's though, by quite a
bit - they're not quite just a smaller version. can't be run at silly stupid
low pressures like the 2.6's (heh, like down to 14-ish psi!).

Shaun aRe - Nokian should [censored] pay me.

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So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet
price. I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores
for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs
for my tubles wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires?
other recomendations? I'm an agresive cross country rider who does a
bit of racing, mostly endurance races like the Vermont 50, and some
24 hour races.

Jason

I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....

Try asking Shaun about the Gazzalodis. I think that he's running them at
the moment.

Already spoken up, Westie me bwoy! ',;~}~

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I'm running the 2.1 UST NBX's at the moment. To be perfectly honest I'm

not

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overly impressed with them on anything but smooth dry hardpack, clay or
rock. They grip like suction cups on the tarmac. They grip very nicely

in

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those conditions. I've found that they get twitchy on anything loose and
they are not good in the damp or wet and slippery stuff like grass, damp
stones, or leaves. The tread pattern doesn't appear to be very aggressive
so that's to be expected. Your conditions may vary.

I believe they're intended for the conditions you state they work well in.
For loose, wet, slippy and rough, go Gazzaloddi - it's what they excel at.

Shaun aRe

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slartibartfast said:

So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet

price.

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I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed
wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other recomendations?

I'm

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an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing, mostly

endurance

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races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

They make good tires just as they make good phones - go for it.

Regards

Bruno

LOL! Uhhhm but they don't make phones Bruno...that would be 'Nokia'...
',;~}~

Shaun aRe - But you were kidding, right?!?

Shaun Rimmer said:

LOL! Uhhhm but they don't make phones Bruno...that would be 'Nokia'...
',;~}~

IIRC, Nokian is part of the Nokia corporation.

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I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are

heavier

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than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much

heavier

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at

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all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you

are

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on

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rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up suspension.
Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which
really prevent sliding.

I'd go as far as to state, it is a fact, they are the best damned 2.6
aggressive tyres on the market, by a wide margin.

The 2.3's don't have as thick a sidewall as the 2.6's though, by quite a
bit - they're not quite just a smaller version. can't be run at silly

stupid

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low pressures like the 2.6's (heh, like down to 14-ish psi!).

Shaun aRe - Nokian should [censored] pay me.

Even though the 2.6's are Downhill tires, I am finding that they allow me to
outride most of my friends on twisty XC trails, by allowing me to come into
turns MUCH faster than I could with a normal 2.2 Bontrager/panaracer etc,
and then hold this speed through the turns, coming out with much more speed
and less need for lots of acceleration out of the turn...the energy saved
here, is more than the increase it takes to get the 2.6's up to speed.
In the patches of sugar sand we get on some trails here in S. Florida, the
2.6 Gazz Jr's allow me to float over the sand as if it was just dirt, and in
a sandy soil area like Florida, this is worth the price of admission all by
itself !
Dan V

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Shaun Rimmer said:

LOL! Uhhhm but they don't make phones Bruno...that would be 'Nokia'...
',;~}~

IIRC, Nokian is part of the Nokia corporation.

[censored]! In which case, I'm glad their tyres are better than their phones.

Shaun aRe - (Tried their phones once, utter [censored] - couldn't get any
cornering traction).

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I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are

heavier

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than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much

heavier

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at

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all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you

are

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on

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rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up suspension.
Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs

which

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really prevent sliding.

I'd go as far as to state, it is a fact, they are the best damned 2.6
aggressive tyres on the market, by a wide margin.

The 2.3's don't have as thick a sidewall as the 2.6's though, by quite a
bit - they're not quite just a smaller version. can't be run at silly

stupid

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low pressures like the 2.6's (heh, like down to 14-ish psi!).

Shaun aRe - Nokian should [censored] pay me.

Even though the 2.6's are Downhill tires, I am finding that they allow me

to

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outride most of my friends on twisty XC trails, by allowing me to come

into

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turns MUCH faster than I could with a normal 2.2 Bontrager/panaracer etc,
and then hold this speed through the turns, coming out with much more

speed

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and less need for lots of acceleration out of the turn...the energy saved
here, is more than the increase it takes to get the 2.6's up to speed.

And ain't _THAT_ the truth! Like being on bloody rails it is.

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In the patches of sugar sand we get on some trails here in S. Florida, the
2.6 Gazz Jr's allow me to float over the sand as if it was just dirt, and

in

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a sandy soil area like Florida, this is worth the price of admission all

by

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itself !
Dan V

Indeed it is! I have only ever heard _ONE_ person complain about the Gazz's,
and that was right here. He complained because they gripped to well!
(Seriously). He was in a rut, the Gazz's bit the side and took him up out
the rut, when he wanted to squirm around in it or something, like his old
tyres used to.

Can't recall who off hand, but a reg.

*Hey, who are you dude?!?!?*

',;~}~

Shaun aRe

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Shaun Rimmer said:

LOL! Uhhhm but they don't make phones Bruno...that would be 'Nokia'...
',;~}~

IIRC, Nokian is part of the Nokia corporation.

Yup.

http://www.nokiausa.com/about/newsroom/article/1,2105,1452,00.html

Look about 2/3 down.

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Thanks for all the reply's. I ended up doing the deed and ordering the NBX
ind Gaz 2.1's even though Shaun got me seriously thinkin of the 2.3s. I'll
be sure to post my opinions when they come in and I've had a chance to get
them out on the trails. I just hope the NBXs wont be too squirly for New
England, though it sounds like they might be. oh well at $22 I have to give
them a try, and I can always ebay 'em.

Jason

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Quoted message said:

So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a realy sweet

price.

Quoted message said:

I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed
wheels, and I'm thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other recomendations?

I'm

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an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing, mostly endurance
races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

Jason

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Indeed it is! I have only ever heard _ONE_ person complain about the Gazz's,
and that was right here. He complained because they gripped to well!
(Seriously). He was in a rut, the Gazz's bit the side and took him up out
the rut, when he wanted to squirm around in it or something, like his old
tyres used to.

Can't recall who off hand, but a reg.

*Hey, who are you dude?!?!?*

',;~}~

Shaun aRe

Er, yeah, that was me. I was in a steep DH rut with a bit of speed,
perfectly happy being there as it was smoother than what was outside the
rut.
I brushed up against the side of it with the front, and the next thing I
know, I'm airborne heading out of the rut. It was a very ungraceful landing.

You gotta ride differently with Gazz's. I tried them again, and got the
hang of it after a while.

You have to really steer with precision, because they will go where you
point, even if you don't expect it.
Once you get the hang of them though, you can drag you knees in the turns.

-Bruce

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I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are heavier
than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much heavier at
all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you are on
rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up suspension.
Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which
really prevent sliding.

Dan V

Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I think I'll run
right out and buy some.

JD

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I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are

heavier

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than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much

heavier at

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all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you

are on

Quoted message said:

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rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up suspension.
Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which
really prevent sliding.

Dan V

Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I think I'll run
right out and buy some.

JD

JD,
I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With all your baggage, it
should be fun.
Dan V

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JD,
I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With all your baggage, it
should be fun.
Dan V

Challenge!

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I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are

heavier

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than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much

heavier at

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all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like
you

are on

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rails.
Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up
suspension. Almost..
The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs
which really prevent sliding.

Dan V

Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I think I'll run
right out and buy some.

JD

JD,
I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With all your baggage,
it should be fun.
Dan V

Don't do it Dan, JD'll probably smoke ya' cuz he rides everyday! That's
what one does when they don't have a life...

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> I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While they are

heavier

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> than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't feel much

heavier at

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> all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like
> you

are on

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> rails.
> Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give up
> suspension. Almost..
> The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs
> which really prevent sliding.
>
> Dan V

Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I think I'll run
right out and buy some.

JD

JD,
I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With all your baggage,
it should be fun.
Dan V

Don't do it Dan, JD'll probably smoke ya' cuz he rides everyday! That's
what one does when they don't have a life...

Thanks for the warning :-)
I'm riding 5 days per week, and the last thing I would worry about is being
smoked by JD on his lame ss bike.
I'm sure our local trails would be too technically demanding to be fair for
him, so I'm not quite sure "where" a challenge like this would happen....
Dan V