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  1. Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty LBS
    actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them (I don't
    have a torquewrench) 64 miles ago. Also, it doesn't seem to
    be a pedal issue. Frame looks OK, also. The bike has a total
    of about 200 miles on it. I bought it new in November, 2003.
    It is a Cannondale CAAD4 road bike, with Shimano SPD pedals,
    and all 105 components (including the BB) If it matters, my
    cadence is about 80-90 rpm.

    ......opinions?

    Thanks, -Karl

  2. "Urban Sherpa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty LBS
    actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them (I
    don't have a torquewrench) 64 miles ago. Also, it doesn't
    seem to be a pedal issue. Frame looks OK, also. The bike
    has a total of about 200 miles on it. I bought it new in
    November, 2003. It is a Cannondale CAAD4 road bike, with
    Shimano SPD pedals, and all 105 components (including the
    BB) If it matters, my cadence is about 80-90 rpm.

    ......opinions?

    Thanks, -Karl

    Took me two months to solve a similar problem a few years
    ago. I was certain, and so was the LBS, that it was the
    bottom bracket. Sure enough that they pulled it, reinstalled
    with teflon tape. Over toqued the crank bolts (different
    story). Turned out to be the bars at the stem. A little
    grease cured it. Just to double check, see if it creaks when
    pedaling with the same force/ rhythm but riding "no hands".
    The other frequent culprits are the the seat rails and the
    seat itself. Bill

  3. Urban Sherpa said:

    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty LBS
    actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them (I
    don't have a torquewrench) 64 miles ago. Also, it doesn't
    seem to be a pedal issue. Frame looks OK, also. The bike
    has a total of about 200 miles on it. I bought it new in
    November, 2003. It is a Cannondale CAAD4 road bike, with
    Shimano SPD pedals, and all 105 components (including the
    BB) If it matters, my cadence is about 80-90 rpm.

    Check chainring bolt tightness.

    Also, the fact that the LBS tightened your crank bolts
    implies they were loose. The cranks may have been ruined as
    a result. BTW, Locktite is not a good idea.

    Other possible causes: shoes, cleats, saddle (does the
    creaking disappear when you're out of the saddle?).

    Art Harris

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Urban Sherpa
    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty LBS
    actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them (I don't
    have a torquewrench) 64 miles ago. Also, it doesn't seem to
    be a pedal issue. Frame looks OK, also. The bike has a total
    of about 200 miles on it. I bought it new in November, 2003.
    It is a Cannondale CAAD4 road bike, with Shimano SPD pedals,
    and all 105 components (including the BB) If it matters, my
    cadence is about 80-90 rpm.

    ......opinions?

    Thanks, -Karl

    Park Tool has a section at their site that might help:
    http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/creaking_and_squeaking.shtml
    There also is a shop in the UK that has a good set of suggestions, but I ca'n't find the URL at this time. Mike are you there?
    Try to isolate the source by trying to exclude things like saddle and seatpost, by standing.
    If you can pedal safely without hands on bars, that can eliminate bars and stem.
    Pedals and cleats are more of a challenge, but if cleaning/substitution doesn't change things, you need to look elsewhere.
    Chain ring bolts are always worth looking into.
    Can you swap out the rear wheel for the test?
    Finding the source takes detective work. I understand how difficult it can be.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty LBS
    actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them (I
    don't have a torquewrench) 64 miles ago. Also, it doesn't
    seem to be a pedal issue. Frame looks OK, also. The bike
    has a total of about 200 miles on it. I bought it new in
    November, 2003. It is a Cannondale CAAD4 road bike, with
    Shimano SPD pedals, and all 105 components (including the
    BB) If it matters, my cadence is about 80-90 rpm.

    ......opinions?

    You might check out this article on our website for places
    to find noises on a bike-

    chainreaction.comnoises.htm

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

  6. "Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Urban Sherpa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty
    LBS actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them
    (I don't have a torquewrench) 64 miles ago. Also, it
    doesn't seem to be a pedal issue. Frame looks OK, also.
    The bike has a total of about 200 miles on it. I bought
    it new in November, 2003. It is a Cannondale CAAD4 road
    bike, with Shimano SPD pedals, and all 105 components
    (including the BB) If it matters, my cadence is about
    80-90 rpm.

    ......opinions?

    Thanks, -Karl

    Took me two months to solve a similar problem a few years
    ago. I was certain, and so was the LBS, that it was the
    bottom bracket. Sure enough that they pulled it,
    reinstalled with teflon tape. Over toqued the crank bolts
    (different story). Turned out to be the bars at the stem.
    A little grease cured it. Just to double check, see if it
    creaks when pedaling with the same force/ rhythm but
    riding "no hands". The other frequent culprits are the the
    seat rails and the seat itself. Bill

    I agree with Bill. Chances are the teflon tape on the BB
    cups will do the trick. I use teflon tape on all my BBs ever
    since my first Cannondale. It is also possible it is the
    seatpost. a little grease between the aluminum post and
    frame would quiet things down. (just a little - you don't
    need much) Rocketman58

  7. [email hidden] (Urban Sherpa) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    ......opinions? Thanks, -Karl

    Among other things, the pedal threads should be cleaned and
    greased. That's what cured a crank creak for me.

    Jeff

  8. I have a C'dale, too.

    What usually fixes my creaking is re-tensioning the rear
    quick release. A little grease here helps, too. I wasted way
    too much time trying out teflon tape and locktite on the BB
    threads, as well as deliberately over- and under-torquing
    the left side of the BB before I discovered the problem was
    with the rear dropouts.

    If the sound is more like clicking than creaking, try re-
    greasing the cog/hub interface and get the lockring nice
    and tight.

    Just trying someone else's rear wheel can be helpful
    diagnostic aid.

    Canondales, as everyone knows who's had one, are spectacular
    when it comes to noises.

    - Pete

  9. urbansherpa-<< Went out for a ride the other day and heard a
    creaking around the crank area.

    I don't think it is the cranks because I had my trusty LBS
    actually tighten the crank bolts and Locktite them

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    I wonder what else the 'trusty' LBS doesn't have a clue about-
    loctite crank bolts??

    I think a take apart of the crank/BB, face the BB
    shell(undoubtedly not done), grease inside the BB shell,
    inside the left BB cup, grease all the chainring bolts and a
    little where the rings sit onto the crankarms...and it will
    probably be solved.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  10. check frame too, I had a cracked frame once that creaked like mad
    "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Urban Sherpa) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Went out for a ride the other day and heard a creaking
    around the crank area.

    ......opinions? Thanks, -Karl

    Among other things, the pedal threads should be cleaned
    and greased. That's what cured a crank creak for me.

    Jeff

  11. I have the same problem with my 6 month old Synapse Carbon bike....over the past month we have checked the seat, seat post, all joints etc. I was told by my local Bike Shop at the weekend that Cannondale did have some quality issues with some of the bottom bracket bearings and bottom bracket housings and that Canondale are replacing these under warranty. Now I know this I will be pursuing it next week, will let you know how I get on.

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