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  1. I'm having a bit of glove trouble. My hands very get cold, certainly
    for the first few miles. Cold enough that I really don't like it. I
    can try for warmer gloves, and scanned this newgroup going back over a
    year and read the glove threads. Lots of suggestions but I can't
    figure out why nobody mentioned battery powered gloves. Is there no
    one using them?

    My problem with gloves so far is that they aren't warm enough at the
    start but are too warm later on. I suppose I can wear heavy ones at
    the start and switch to lighter ones but I'm starting to carry a lot
    of stuff and it isn't easy to stop and switch around, especially since
    the pack is bungie corded to the carrier.

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

  2. "dgk" wrote ...
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    Don't ride that much in the cold to try them. I *do* have a pair
    (somewhere) ... they run of a single D sized cell which sits in a pouch sewn
    into the glove at the wrist. Each glove has it's own cell. A bit of a pain
    to turn on and off by the way.

    Also, I don't agree with the concept of needing less as you "get warm enough
    not to need it anymore." My hands get colder further into the ride (like
    about 45 minutes) Yes, your body should feel cool when you start the ride.
    It will heat up as you ride, but we are talking about hands here not your
    core body temp. Cold hands (fingers actually) are the reason I stop riding
    when the weather gets cold. The only thing I think would work would be to
    completely enclose each handlebar end with just an opening for my writs.
    Similar accessories have been sold for snowmobiles, and ATV's.

    --
    Richard Amirault N1JDU
    Boston, MA, USA Go Fly A Kite

  3. "Richard Amirault" wrote: (clip)completely enclose each handlebar end with
    just an opening for my writs. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Do you ride your bike to court?

  4. Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:54:42 -0500, <[email hidden]>,

    Richard Amirault said:

    The only thing I think would work would be to
    completely enclose each handlebar end with just an opening for my writs.
    Similar accessories have been sold for snowmobiles, and ATV's.

    They are sold as "pogies" for bicycles. Terry did sell them at one
    time. Serratus makes some. MEC has them: http://tinyurl.com/68ztt
    --
    zk

  5. My fingers were so cold they couldn't type right ;-)

    --
    Richard Amirault N1JDU
    Boston, MA, USA Go Fly A Kite
    "Leo Lichtman" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:


    "Richard Amirault" wrote: (clip)completely enclose each handlebar end with
    just an opening for my writs. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Do you ride your bike to court?

  6. dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm having a bit of glove trouble. My hands very get cold, certainly
    for the first few miles. Cold enough that I really don't like it. I
    can try for warmer gloves, and scanned this newgroup going back over a
    year and read the glove threads. Lots of suggestions but I can't
    figure out why nobody mentioned battery powered gloves. Is there no
    one using them?


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    My gloves keep my hands warm enough but I do use the battery powered
    socks when it gets really cold.

  7. dgk said:


    ... I'm starting to carry a lot of stuff and it isn't easy to stop and
    switch around, especially since the pack is bungie corded to the
    carrier.

    You might consider a rack with a trunk bag. I have one and it's very
    useful -- whenever I take long rides I go with two quarts of water, food,
    tools, etc.

    I have a cheap one from Nashbar, it's $23 now but I've seen it on sale for
    $15. I like it and would recommend it at the higher price.

    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=6804

    Reid

  8. R.White said:

    dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm having a bit of glove trouble. My hands very get cold, certainly
    for the first few miles. Cold enough that I really don't like it. I
    can try for warmer gloves, and scanned this newgroup going back over a
    year and read the glove threads. Lots of suggestions but I can't
    figure out why nobody mentioned battery powered gloves. Is there no
    one using them?


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    My gloves keep my hands warm enough but I do use the battery powered
    socks when it gets really cold.

    Try getting a dynamo hub and hooking them in.
    It is a new idea for the generator at least.
    The faster you ride the warmer your hands get.
    Bill Baka

    --
    Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

  9. dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snippage>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    I don't live in a climate where I need it for the bike (Pacific Northwest).
    But I've used them for years when doing amateur astronomy, which sometimes
    involves standing outside all night long, in cold weather without much real
    physical activity to keep you warm.

    Heated gloves work fine, and it's nice to be able to turn them off when you
    don't need it. It's like removing a layer without the hassle of removing a
    layer.

    The only downside I could see is that they're a little heavier than normal
    insulated gloves, and you do have to pay attention to battery replacement.
    I'd hate to have to depend on these to get home on a bike, and suddenly
    find a dead battery in the gloves.

    --
    Mike Barrs

  10. foldedpath said:

    dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snippage>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    I don't live in a climate where I need it for the bike (Pacific Northwest).
    But I've used them for years when doing amateur astronomy, which sometimes
    involves standing outside all night long, in cold weather without much real
    physical activity to keep you warm.

    Heated gloves work fine, and it's nice to be able to turn them off when you
    don't need it. It's like removing a layer without the hassle of removing a
    layer.

    The only downside I could see is that they're a little heavier than normal
    insulated gloves, and you do have to pay attention to battery replacement.
    I'd hate to have to depend on these to get home on a bike, and suddenly
    find a dead battery in the gloves.

    Is there a particular one that you recommend? Neither Nashbar nor
    Performance seem to have any.

    I would likely use rechargable batteries.

  11. foldedpath said:

    dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snippage>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    I don't live in a climate where I need it for the bike (Pacific Northwest).
    But I've used them for years when doing amateur astronomy, which sometimes
    involves standing outside all night long, in cold weather without much real
    physical activity to keep you warm.

    Heated gloves work fine, and it's nice to be able to turn them off when you
    don't need it. It's like removing a layer without the hassle of removing a
    layer.

    The only downside I could see is that they're a little heavier than normal
    insulated gloves, and you do have to pay attention to battery replacement.
    I'd hate to have to depend on these to get home on a bike, and suddenly
    find a dead battery in the gloves.

    Is there a particular one that you recommend? Neither Nashbar nor
    Performance seem to have any.

    I would likely use rechargable batteries.

  12. foldedpath said:

    dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snippage>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    I don't live in a climate where I need it for the bike (Pacific Northwest).
    But I've used them for years when doing amateur astronomy, which sometimes
    involves standing outside all night long, in cold weather without much real
    physical activity to keep you warm.

    Heated gloves work fine, and it's nice to be able to turn them off when you
    don't need it. It's like removing a layer without the hassle of removing a
    layer.

    The only downside I could see is that they're a little heavier than normal
    insulated gloves, and you do have to pay attention to battery replacement.
    I'd hate to have to depend on these to get home on a bike, and suddenly
    find a dead battery in the gloves.

    Is there a particular one that you recommend? Neither Nashbar nor
    Performance seem to have any.

    I would likely use rechargable batteries.

  13. dgk said:

    I'm having a bit of glove trouble. My hands very get cold,y.. I can't figure out why nobody mentioned battery powered gloves. Is there no
    one using them?

    .....since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    I've got a medical condition that disrupts the blood flow to both fingers and toes, so I've tried a lot of things to keep warm over the years. All the commercially available heated socks/boots/shoes that I've tried have only been able to provide "comfort temperature". That is, they'll be warm to the touch but not quite powerful enough to warm you up if you're really getting cold. If heated gloves are anything like heated socks then stopping a while and putting my hands in my armpits is a far better option. Once I built myself a pair of heated soles at 3 W power each, and they'll do the trick. They will also melt the snow around your toes when you're standing still 😉

    One thing you could try is to get hold of some electrically heated grips (available for motorbikes) and adapt them to your bike. I've heard people using them with good results.

  14. "dgk" wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a particular one that you recommend? Neither Nashbar nor
    Performance seem to have any.

    I would likely use rechargeable batteries.

    It may be that few folks (if any) are still making them for sale. The only
    links I could find in GOOGLE were for electric gloves for motorcycle use
    (using the vehicle's power, not flashlight batteries). When I bought my
    battery gloves it was years ago. It may be that it was "It seemed like a
    good idea at the time" sort of thing that just didn't pan out. Rather than
    use battery power, now you can easily find gloves that have a special pouch
    for a small chemical hand warmer. (I have this style also .. purchased last
    year)

    --
    Richard Amirault N1JDU
    Boston, MA, USA Go Fly A Kite

  15. On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:54:42 -0500, "Richard Amirault" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "dgk" wrote ...
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that battery powered gloves could be thin enough to use the
    current when you start out but turn off when you get warm enough not
    not need it anymore.

    Seems reasonable but since no one is doing it, there are clearly
    objections. And these are...

    Don't ride that much in the cold to try them. I *do* have a pair
    (somewhere) ... they run of a single D sized cell which sits in a pouch sewn
    into the glove at the wrist. Each glove has it's own cell. A bit of a pain
    to turn on and off by the way.

    Also, I don't agree with the concept of needing less as you "get warm enough
    not to need it anymore." My hands get colder further into the ride (like
    about 45 minutes) Yes, your body should feel cool when you start the ride.
    It will heat up as you ride, but we are talking about hands here not your
    core body temp. Cold hands (fingers actually) are the reason I stop riding
    when the weather gets cold. The only thing I think would work would be to
    completely enclose each handlebar end with just an opening for my writs.
    Similar accessories have been sold for snowmobiles, and ATV's.

    I use Gordini AquaBlock gloves on the bike when the temp is below 40F. Very
    warm, soft and windproof. I got mine at Campmor a few years ago. I also use them
    for XC skiing when it's below 25F (otherwise sweat them up too much, although I
    never mind hot hands or feet when it's freezing).

    Ben

  16. dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a particular one that you recommend? Neither Nashbar nor
    Performance seem to have any.

    I would likely use rechargable batteries.

    It's been years since I bought mine... I can't remember where I got them,
    and they're packed away where I can't check the brand. Here's a few hits I
    found with a quick Google search. The first two look like the ones I have,
    may even be the same brand:

    http://tinyurl.com/6cjc9

    http://www.brucemedical.com/ng25.html

    Here's another type... electric liners with a separate battery pack... not
    as convenient as being on the glove, but more flexibility in what kind of
    shell you can use over them:

    http://www.electrichandwarmers.com/glove.html

    --
    Mike Barrs

  17. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:47:38 -0600, foldedpath <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a particular one that you recommend? Neither Nashbar nor
    Performance seem to have any.

    I would likely use rechargable batteries.

    It's been years since I bought mine... I can't remember where I got them,
    and they're packed away where I can't check the brand. Here's a few hits I
    found with a quick Google search. The first two look like the ones I have,
    may even be the same brand:

    http://tinyurl.com/6cjc9

    http://www.brucemedical.com/ng25.html

    Here's another type... electric liners with a separate battery pack... not
    as convenient as being on the glove, but more flexibility in what kind of
    shell you can use over them:

    http://www.electrichandwarmers.com/glove.html

    I think the weight of the batteries (especially the last one that takes 8 D
    cells) makes it lighter to just carry two types of gloves or a shell/liner
    combo. The first two items appear to be heavy insulated gloves (the 2nd one
    mentions thinsulate), which would probably be too much, even without electric,
    for the O.P. once he is warmed up.

    Ben

  18. "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm having a bit of glove trouble. My hands very get cold, certainly
    for the first few miles. Cold enough that I really don't like it. I
    can try for warmer gloves, and scanned this newgroup going back over a
    year and read the glove threads.

    Have you considered using those little chemical packs? They typically cost
    99 cents. I wouldn't use them on a daily basis, but it's worth having one in
    the saddle bag for when your hands turn completely numb.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
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  19. Reid Priedhorsky said:
    dgk said:


    ... I'm starting to carry a lot of stuff and it isn't easy to stop and
    switch around, especially since the pack is bungie corded to the
    carrier.

    You might consider a rack with a trunk bag. I have one and it's very
    useful -- whenever I take long rides I go with two quarts of water, food,
    tools, etc.

    I used one of those for about two years, and they are nice. But I
    recently started using an SQR Carradice touring bag. It's much
    quicker to get on and off the bike, which is nice for stops at the
    library on the way home. Also it means you don't need a rack, and
    it's fairly easy to get a SQR block to put on other bikes so you
    can swap it. Excellent for folding bikes also.

    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/bags/sqr-products.htm

    Quoted message said:

    I have a cheap one from Nashbar, it's $23 now but I've seen it on sale for
    $15. I like it and would recommend it at the higher price.

    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=6804

    That's what I started off with. I did have to replace it after about
    nine months of use, the zippers had started to die.

    --
    Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    "The loss of life will be irreplaceable."
    -Dan Quayle

  20. Claire Petersky said:

    "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm having a bit of glove trouble. My hands very get cold, certainly
    for the first few miles. Cold enough that I really don't like it. I
    can try for warmer gloves, and scanned this newgroup going back over a
    year and read the glove threads.

    Have you considered using those little chemical packs? They typically cost
    99 cents. I wouldn't use them on a daily basis, but it's worth having one in
    the saddle bag for when your hands turn completely numb.

    If they were reusable. But my fingers were freezing for the first four
    miles today. That is really annoying. It is the only part, so far,
    that makes the commute unpleasant.

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