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No tools Coker

U-Turn · 2004-04-02T11:55:25+00:00

Woo hoo! Yesterday I mounted a Coker tire with no tools. My first time! I have to admit that this particular tire has been on and off a few times. Next goal: a new tire with no tools. -- U-Turn - There has got to be a better way... Weep in the dojo... laugh on the battlefield. 'Strongest Coker Wheel in the World' (http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery/albup39) 'Unatics Website' (http://www.newyorkunicycle.com) -- Dave Stockton ------------------------------------------------------------------------ U-Turn's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/691 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/29800

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Published: 2 April 2004
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Original author: U-Turn
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Topics: Rim tape and valves

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U-Turn
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2 April 2004, 11:55 UTC #1

Woo hoo! Yesterday I mounted a Coker tire with no tools. My
first time!
I have to admit that this particular tire has been on and
off a few times.
Next goal: a new tire with no tools.
--
U-Turn - There has got to be a better way...
Weep in the dojo... laugh on the battlefield.
'Strongest Coker Wheel in the World'
(unicyclist.comalbup39)
'Unatics Website' (newyorkunicycle.comnewyorkunicycle.com)
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Sofa
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2 April 2004, 11:55 UTC #2

I removed my Coker tire the other day, tire levers in the car,
nail-bitten fingers too sore, I was able to remove the tire with my
pedal wrench 🙂
Good job on the no-tooler, that's quite a feat
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Gild
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2 April 2004, 11:56 UTC #3

U-Turn said:
*Woo hoo! Yesterday I mounted a Coker tire with no tools.
My first time! I have to admit that this particular tire
has been on and off a few times. Next goal: a new tire
with no tools. *
u either need some rockclimbing practise to strengthen your
fingers or u just stumbled ont eh most amazing finger
strengthening exercise for climbers...
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Rayden
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2 April 2004, 11:56 UTC #4

This may be a stupid question, but why on earth would you
want to remove a tire without tools?
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U-Turn
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2 April 2004, 11:56 UTC #5

Rayden said:
*This may be a stupid question, but why on earth would you
want to remove a tire without tools? *

Well, there are two reasons to put on and remove a tire
without tools. The most significant is that the improper heavy-
handed use of tools can damage your tire, tube, and/or rim.
So it pays to practice using tools as little as possible.
The other reason is to demonstrate that your technique is
sophisticated enough to do so.
What happens with Coker tires is that it can be difficult
enough to work the tire on and off that you actually bend
plastic tire tools in half. So the next step is to get
metal tools, which are really damaging to the rim, and can
be to the tire as well. In order to reverse this seductive
trend, you work at putting the tire on with as little tool
use as possible.
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Harper
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2 April 2004, 11:56 UTC #6

U-Turn said:
*Woo hoo! Yesterday I mounted a Coker tire with no tools.
My first time!
*
This must be on one of the Airfoil rims. The tires
practically fall off of the steel rims.
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U-Turn
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2 April 2004, 11:58 UTC #7

harper said:
*the steel rims. *

-*shudder*-
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John_childs
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2 April 2004, 11:58 UTC #8

Here's my experience with trying to force a Coker tire on an Airfoil
rim: 'Putting a Coker tire on the Airfoil rim'
(tinyurl.com3248f)
It was a real [censored] getting that tire on and I am familiar
with some of the tricks to mount difficult tires.
One big problem was that the tire was getting hung up on the
Velox rim tape so the tire wasn't sliding down all the way
into the middle section of the rim. Perhaps a thinner rim
strip would make mounting the Coker tire easier.
I did notice that it was much easier to mount the tire when
there was no tube. This could possibly be the best argument
for using 'Stan's No Tubes system' (notubes.comnotubes.com)
with a Coker tire. 😉
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Dirtsurfer
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2 April 2004, 11:58 UTC #9

john_childs said:
*This could possibly be the best argument for using
'Stan's No Tubes system' (notubes.comnotubes.com) with a
Coker tire. 😉 *
Actually, I found it harder to mount with the Stan's. After
you seal the rim with strapping tape you have to run some
foam tape over it to fill the gap in the center of the rim.
Without the foam tape, the tire sits in the center and will
not inflate, compressor or not. Building up the center
forces the rubber strip to seal the tire and rim strip
interface before it seats the bead.
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John_childs
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2 April 2004, 11:58 UTC #10

Dirtsurfer said:
*
Actually, I found it harder to mount with the
Stan's. After you seal the rim with strapping tape you have to run
some foam tape over it to fill the gap in the center of the rim.
Without the foam tape, the tire sits in the center and will not
inflate, compressor or not. Building up the center forces the rubber
strip to seal the tire and rim strip interface before it seats the
bead. *
Well then, scratch that. I thought Stan's No Tubes might
have had an advantage there, but no go.
Anything that makes it easier to get the tire on the
Airfoil rim would be a good thing, IMHO. Too bad No Tubes
is not the answer.
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John_childs
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2 April 2004, 11:58 UTC #11

U-Turn, What rim strip or rim tape do you use? And what
width? I used a wide (22 mm wide) Velox tape. Perhaps
narrower tape or even a different brand of rim tape would
make it easier to mount the Coker tire?
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U-Turn
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2 April 2004, 11:58 UTC #12

john_childs said:
*U-Turn, What rim strip or rim tape do you use? And what
width? I used a wide (22 mm wide) Velox tape. Perhaps
narrower tape or even a different brand of rim tape would
make it easier to mount the Coker tire? *

Hey John; excellent insight. Why am I not surprised?
Yes I've switched to a 16mm poly tape from Salsa. It is
still about 2-3mm too wide, but that's a lot less than the
Velox. But the narrower tape really does help. It rolls up
less easily when the tire pulls on it, and when it does the
roll is easier to fix. This tape now goes in all the
Strongest Wheels I build for people. It still takes 2 rolls
to do a wheel, though, and AFAIK it's not available in
continuous rolls. Also -- I think the poly tape is more
slippery than the cloth Velox, which helps some.
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