No tapping for a couple weeks

I don't see why not. His saddle has a nice "pressure relieving"
cut-out.

billyroll said:

...for the dude in red.

http://www.sportsshooter.com/STEVEC/crash/

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<[email hidden]>,

billyroll said:

...for the dude in red.

http://www.sportsshooter.com/STEVEC/crash/

Hay bales are dangerous. Corners need to be demarcated
with steel spikes to keep the freds off the right of way.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

Hay bales are dangerous. Corners need to be demarcated
with steel spikes to keep the freds off the right of way.

Tell that to the livedrunk(tm) CEO.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Michael Press said:

Hay bales are dangerous. Corners need to be demarcated
with steel spikes to keep the freds off the right of way.

Tell that to the livedrunk(tm) CEO.

Actually, I did a race this weekend in which haybales may have been
responsible for an accident. One of the women crashed in a tight corner
with a downhill approach, possibly because hay from the bales was strewn
through the corner.

I have a teammate who earned the nickname "Haybale" last year, thanks to
an epic, unforced dump into said safety object.

After the Spring races this year, though, he got a new nickname after a
new crash: Treadmark.

On his legs,

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Donald Munro said:

Michael Press said:

Hay bales are dangerous. Corners need to be demarcated
with steel spikes to keep the freds off the right of way.

Tell that to the livedrunk(tm) CEO.

Actually, I did a race this weekend in which haybales may have been
responsible for an accident. One of the women crashed in a tight corner
with a downhill approach, possibly because hay from the bales was strewn
through the corner.

I have a teammate who earned the nickname "Haybale" last year, thanks to
an epic, unforced dump into said safety object.

After the Spring races this year, though, he got a new nickname after a
new crash: Treadmark.

On his legs,

As we saw on the sequence of photographs, the hay bales
was directly responsible for a face plant by a rider who
negotiated the corner in good order.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Actually, I did a race this weekend in which haybales may have been
responsible for an accident. One of the women crashed in a tight corner
with a downhill approach, possibly because hay from the bales was strewn
through the corner.

I have a teammate who earned the nickname "Haybale" last year, thanks to
an epic, unforced dump into said safety object.

Quoted message said:

As we saw on the sequence of photographs, the hay bales
was directly responsible for a face plant by a rider who
negotiated the corner in good order.

Sometimes you get the haybale, sometimes the haybale gets you.

It's hard to tell from that sequence of photos because you'd really
like to see what happened before the first one. But it looks to me
like the rider exited the corner too wide and hit the haybale. I don't
know if the impact or his braking caused the rear of his bike to
swing around. It's possible if the haybale were not there, that he
could have simply run off the course over the curb and taken out
the photographer instead. I'm sure the other riders behind him
would have preferred that.

However, that doesn't make it the haybale's fault. Riders are
responsible for exiting corners so as not to hit stuff: none of the
other guys are on a haybale-interception trajectory. Also,
obviously I have never seen the course, but one doesn't always
put bales on every corner. Often the bales are there because
there is a lightpole, barricade, planter or god-knows-what.
You'd rather have riders who run out of pavement smack
into a haybale than headfirst into a mailbox.

If we do nothing, the haybales win,
Ben

Ryan Cousineau said:

thanks to
an epic, unforced dump into said safety object.

Dave Bailey once posted to rbr about an epic unforced dump.

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

Michael Press said:

Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Actually, I did a race this weekend in which haybales may have been
responsible for an accident. One of the women crashed in a tight corner
with a downhill approach, possibly because hay from the bales was strewn
through the corner.

I have a teammate who earned the nickname "Haybale" last year, thanks to
an epic, unforced dump into said safety object.

Quoted message said:

As we saw on the sequence of photographs, the hay bales
was directly responsible for a face plant by a rider who
negotiated the corner in good order.

Sometimes you get the haybale, sometimes the haybale gets you.

It's hard to tell from that sequence of photos because you'd really
like to see what happened before the first one. But it looks to me
like the rider exited the corner too wide and hit the haybale. I don't
know if the impact or his braking caused the rear of his bike to
swing around. It's possible if the haybale were not there, that he
could have simply run off the course over the curb and taken out
the photographer instead. I'm sure the other riders behind him
would have preferred that.

However, that doesn't make it the haybale's fault. Riders are
responsible for exiting corners so as not to hit stuff: none of the
other guys are on a haybale-interception trajectory. Also,
obviously I have never seen the course, but one doesn't always
put bales on every corner. Often the bales are there because
there is a lightpole, barricade, planter or god-knows-what.
You'd rather have riders who run out of pavement smack
into a haybale than headfirst into a mailbox.

If we do nothing, the haybales win,

The rider in the red jersey did a face plant even though
he exited the corner in good order. Tapioca brain made
dog's breakfast of that corner and got other people hurt.
That is why I advocate increasing the individual risk of
missing a corner.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

That is why I advocate increasing the individual risk of
missing a corner.

If you wear a helmet you'll be OK.

Donald Munro said:

Michael Press said:

That is why I advocate increasing the individual risk of
missing a corner.

If you wear a helmet you'll be OK.

I got clocked in the head by a baseball just before a bike race this
Sunday. No helmet. I'm lucky to be alive! But my head hurt. Should
be no typing for a week, but I can't stay away from RBR....

JT

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Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

If you wear a helmet you'll be OK.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

I got clocked in the head by a baseball just before a bike race this
Sunday. No helmet. I'm lucky to be alive! But my head hurt. Should
be no typing for a week, but I can't stay away from RBR....

Don't worry, being knocked silly will improve your rbr posts.

Michael Press said:

The rider in the red jersey did a face plant even though
he exited the corner in good order. Tapioca brain made
dog's breakfast of that corner and got other people hurt.
That is why I advocate increasing the individual risk of
missing a corner.

Yellow tape - transfer the liability, but none of the excitement. If
God didn't want excitement, he\she\whatever wouldn't have put all
those fire hydrants and light poles around the course.

Curtis L. Russell
Invoking God is the first resort of the lazy. We never wait to find
out what the last resort is.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Donald Munro said:

Michael Press said:

That is why I advocate increasing the individual risk of
missing a corner.

If you wear a helmet you'll be OK.

In this example, its called a 'cup'. And that should turn this into a
chafing thread soon enough.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...