No ProTour for Phonak

Jenko said:

UCI's way of saying "don't play with us". Source:todociclismo
http://www.todociclismo.com/noticia.asp?id=21718

Jenko

Tyler looks like he's auditioning for a Spiderman sequel in that photo.
Either that or magic school.

Magilla

Hey Junkyard,

Translate into English next time, dumbass. RBR isn't based in Milan.

I can prove that too: the Pope is a [censored].

Magilla

Jenko said:

UCI's way of saying "don't play with us". Source:todociclismo
http://www.todociclismo.com/noticia.asp?id=21718

Jenko

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Hey Junkyard,

Translate into English next time, dumbass. RBR isn't based in Milan.

Neither was the article/link, [censored]-For-Brains.

On 11/13/04 7:41 AM, in article [email hidden],

MagillaGorilla said:

Jenko said:

UCI's way of saying "don't play with us". Source:todociclismo
http://www.todociclismo.com/noticia.asp?id=21718

Jenko

Tyler looks like he's auditioning for a Spiderman sequel in that photo.
Either that or magic school.

Magilla

Gorilla Breath,
Looks more like he is about to have the cuffs slapped on him.....

Carl Sundquist said:

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Hey Junkyard,

Translate into English next time, dumbass. RBR isn't based in Milan.

Neither was the article/link, [censored]-For-Brains.

True. It's getting more and more based in Berlin, so I guess a German link would
be more appropriate
http://sport.orf.at/index.html?url=http%3A//sport.orf.at/ticker/164038.html

It says the reason for the exclusion is the three recent doping cases, but
Todociclismo now reports it's due to a problem with two of the new contracts.
Anyway, the original translation holds: "don't play with us"

Jenko

Phonak écartée

La commission des licences de l'UCI s'est réunie ce samedi au Musée
Olympique de Lausanne. A l'issue de la séance, dix-neuf des trente et une
équipes ont reçu un «avis préalable favorable» pour obtenir une licence du
ProTour, la dernière étape du processus avant la publication officielle
début décembre des formations retenues pour ce circuit.

Seule l'équipe suisse, Phonak, n'a pas été retenue par la commission. La
formation héveltique fait ainsi les frais des contrôles antidopage positifs
qui ont frappé trois de ces coureurs ces derniers mois : en août pour
l'ancien champion du monde suisse Oscar Camenzind, en octobre pour
l'Américain Tyler Hamilton, champion olympique du contre-la-montre, et pour
l'Espagnol Santiago Perez, deuxième de la Vuelta.

Camenzind, qui a reconnu un dopage à l'EPO a été licencié par l'équipe
suisse. En revanche, Hamilton et Perez, les deux premiers sportifs
convaincus de dopage par transfusion sanguine, ont nié s'être dopés et ont
obtenu le soutien de leurs dirigeants, au moins provisoirement.

Il reste à Phonak, seule formation suisse de haut niveau, la possibilité de
se faire entendre par la commission des licences le 22 novembre avant
l'annonce définitive des équipes retenues pour le ProTour.

A noter que les licences des équipes présélectionnées auront une durée de
quatre ans, à l'exception de celles de Lampre-Caffitta (trois ans), T-Mobile
et Iles Baleares (deux ans) et Fassa Bortolo, dont la licence portera sur
une période d'un an.

Les dix-neuf équipes
Quick Step (BEL)
Davitamon-Lotto (BEL)
CSC (DAN)
Iles Baléares (ESP)
Liberty Seguros (ESP
Euskaltel-Euskadi (ESP)
Saunier Duval-Prodir (ESP)
Cofidis (FRA)
Bouygues-Telecom (FRA)
FDJeux.com (FRA)
Crédit Agricole (FRA)
Gerolsteiner (ALL)
T-Mobile (ALL)
Domina Vacanze (ITA)
Liquidas (ITA)
Lampre-Caffitta (ITA)
Fassa Bortolo (ITA)
Rabobank (PBS)
Discovery Chanel (USA)
Pro Cycling Team (USA)

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Carl Sundquist said:

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Quoted message said:

Hey Junkyard,

Translate into English next time, dumbass. RBR isn't based in Milan.

Neither was the article/link, [censored]-For-Brains.

True. It's getting more and more based in Berlin, so I guess a German link
would be more appropriate
http://sport.orf.at/index.html?url=http%3A//sport.orf.at/ticker/164038.html

It says the reason for the exclusion is the three recent doping cases, but
Todociclismo now reports it's due to a problem with two of the new
contracts. Anyway, the original translation holds: "don't play with us"

Jenko

I guess the UCI want to crack down on cheaters. I don't blame them doping is killing the sport and they have had three riders accused of doping. One is there team leader and another was second in the Vuelta.

donhix1 said:

doping is killing the sport

What evidence is there for this?

JT

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donhix1 said:

doping is killing the sport

What evidence is there for this?

It probably isn't judging from the popularity of the sport with the Euro
fans. They don't really care about the doping issue. The sponsors may kill
the sport, as we now know it, if they pull out. Will Phonak stay in if they
aren't in the Pro-Tour due to doping? It's going to be an interesting three
or four months ahead.

B. Lafferty said:

...The sponsors may kill
the sport, as we now know it, if they pull out...

...or the UCI may kill the sport, if, in spite of teams/sponsors suspending riders who test positive, the UCI still sanctions/ostracizes the teams.

Obviously, the implication is complicity between the teams and the accused, but if the team has suspended the riders, why is UCI still punishing the teams by keeping them of the circuit?

Sponsors can see this creates a no win situation for them and will turn away. But who can blame them?

Carl Sundquist said:

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Hey Junkyard,

Translate into English next time, dumbass. RBR isn't based in Milan.

Neither was the article/link, [censored]-For-Brains.

Oh okay, so it was in Spanish...same thing. That's right up there with
finding a spelling mistake.

The Pope still sucks.

Magilla