No gov support for helmets bill

Ben said:

"'Child helmet compulsion' bill will not get government
support That's the reading-between-the-lines conclusion
reached by most bike bigwigs at the third annual Cycling
Forum for England meeting held at the Department for
Transport in London yesterday."

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I will allow myself a very small "w00t!"

Glad to see the CTC have finally got going on this - that's
what I pay them for!

"Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ben said:

"'Child helmet compulsion' bill will not get government
support That's the reading-between-the-lines conclusion
reached by most bike

bigwigs

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Quoted message said:

at the third annual Cycling Forum for England meeting
held at the

Department

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for Transport in London yesterday."

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I will allow myself a very small "w00t!"

Glad to see the CTC have finally got going on this -
that's what I pay them for!

Finally got this going!? we've been fighting this for the
last ten years, where have you been?

Zog The Undeniable said:

Glad to see the CTC have finally got going on this - that's
what I pay them for!

Mate, you don't know the half of it. I have only been
peripherally involved but can assure you that the email I
received from Roger Geffen at 8pm on Sunday was by no means
atypical. Roger and the guys have put in an incredible
amount of work on this, at a time when they also have the
National Cycling Strategy and half a dozen other things on
their plate.

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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University

Just zis Guy said:

Mate, you don't know the half of it. I have only been
peripherally involved but can assure you that the email I
received from Roger Geffen at 8pm on Sunday was by no
means atypical. Roger and the guys have put in an
incredible amount of work on this, at a time when they
also have the National Cycling Strategy and half a dozen
other things on their plate.

I was just going by the paucity of information on ctc.org.uk
in the weeks following the announcement of the Bill. It did
pop up in the next issue of the magazine though.

My MP's line, FWIW, seems to be same as the DfT's. This can
be broadly summarised as "we think helmets will prevent
injuries but at the moment not enough people are wearing
them to make a law enforceable".

So those who wear a helmet on the road are - whether
intentionally or not - moving us closer to compulsion.

Zog The Undeniable said:

I was just going by the paucity of information on
ctc.org.uk in the weeks following the announcement of
the Bill. It did pop up in the next issue of the
magazine though.

It's not been officially published yet, so we only have the
draft version circulated by BeHIT, which is so badly flawed
that it will undoubtedly have been heavily revised by now.

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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University

Zog The Undeniable said:

Just zis Guy said:

Mate, you don't know the half of it. I have only been
peripherally involved but can assure you that the email
I received from Roger Geffen at 8pm on Sunday was by no
means atypical. Roger and the guys have put in an
incredible amount of work on this, at a time when they
also have the National Cycling Strategy and half a dozen
other things on their plate.

I was just going by the paucity of information on
ctc.org.uk in the weeks following the announcement of
the Bill. It did pop up in the next issue of the
magazine though.

My MP's line, FWIW, seems to be same as the DfT's. This
can be broadly summarised as "we think helmets will
prevent injuries but at the moment not enough people are
wearing them to make a law enforceable".

So those who wear a helmet on the road are - whether
intentionally or not - moving us closer to compulsion.

Its an argument that is swaying me towards becoming anti-
helmet and to advise riders not to wear one.

John B

JohnB <[email hidden]> wrote:

| Zog The Undeniable wrote:
...
| > My MP's line, FWIW, seems to be same as the DfT's. This
| > can be broadly summarised as "we think helmets will
| > prevent injuries but at the moment not enough people are
| > wearing them to make a law enforceable".
| >
| > So those who wear a helmet on the road are - whether
| > intentionally or not - moving us closer to compulsion.
|
| Its an argument that is swaying me towards becoming anti-
| helmet and to advise riders not to wear one.

Dive right in, the water's warm!

Actually, I'm not anti-helmet as such: I just think their
most effective positive function (for road cycling) is to
get people to switch on what's inside their heads; also that
their most effective negative function is to relieve the
fear, uncertainty and doubt of drivers that they might
inadvertently cause something bad to happen.

--
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