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  1. Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

  2. Sam and Ray said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

    Maybe not such a proud moment. From the abcnews story about his resignation:

    "Even as he made the announcement, a lawsuit was expected to be filed by
    his former homeland security adviser, Golan Cipel, in Mercer County,
    N.J., Court, sources told ABC News."

    Sexual harrassment in the workplace s/b treated no differently no matter
    what the parties' sexes are.

  3. We're proud for him, but we see your point. Infidelity, regardless or
    orientation, is wrong.

    Sam and Ray

    Brian said:

    Maybe not such a proud moment. From the abcnews story about his resignation:

    "Even as he made the announcement, a lawsuit was expected to be filed by
    his former homeland security adviser, Golan Cipel, in Mercer County,
    N.J., Court, sources told ABC News."

    Sexual harrassment in the workplace s/b treated no differently no matter
    what the parties' sexes are.

  4. "Sam and Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Brave? Naw, cowardly to have to come out under duress.

    Quoted message said:


    Sam and Ray

  5. I couldn't figure out why a married governor with children who has an
    affair with a man and comes to terms with his sexual orientation would
    choose to resign. However, the sexual harassment charge makes it
    understandable.

    Brian said:
    Sam and Ray said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

    Maybe not such a proud moment. From the abcnews story about his resignation:

    "Even as he made the announcement, a lawsuit was expected to be filed by
    his former homeland security adviser, Golan Cipel, in Mercer County,
    N.J., Court, sources told ABC News."

    Sexual harrassment in the workplace s/b treated no differently no matter
    what the parties' sexes are.

  6. "Sam and Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

    How will he come to terms with his wife? He announced he is gay!

    Not sure it is a brave act considering he is about to get hit with a sexual
    harassment suit. If he had announced this when he made the realization
    before he cheated on his wife or before entering into an affair with a guy
    (he admitted that part), then it would be a brave act. In this case he is
    like the athletes who get caught doping and "come clean" only after they
    were caught.

    McGreevey should resign effective now rather than November 15. When the CT
    governor was under fire, there were calls for him to resign immediately from
    Democrats. I would if those same Democrats will call for McGreevey to do
    the same. Of course, they fear the mayor of Newark becoming governor (a
    Republican with some libertarian ideas).

  7. "Jack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Sam and Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Brave? Naw, cowardly to have to come out under duress.

    Quoted message said:


    Sam and Ray

    Okay, for a minute I thought the above read "Brave? Naw, cowardly to have to
    come out in a dress." I am sure that is some subconscious homophobic
    thought from my Southern, white, straight upbringing.

  8. Quoted message said:

    I couldn't figure out why a married governor with children who has an
    affair with a man and comes to terms with his sexual orientation would
    choose to resign.

    He WHAT????????? I thought he balled a chic? You mean he "went queer" on us?
    Dammit...

  9. Quoted message said:

    He WHAT????????? I thought he balled a chic? You mean he "went queer" on us?
    Dammit...

    How sad we lost another one from our side.

  10. Quoted message said:

    I am sure that is some subconscious homophobic
    thought from my Southern, white, straight upbringing.

    I bet you have dreams of your mommy spanking you, while dressed in leather
    laungerie too?

  11. There's a difference between Rowland (ct. gov.) and McGreevey. Rowland's
    wrongdoing was directly related to his duties as governor, and ethical
    issues such as bribery/kickbacks, etc. A governor having an extramarital
    affair (and really, can't we get over the gay part?) should have nothing to
    do with his ability to stay in office.
    --But that's just me, I'm also pining for the days when the most serious
    lies told in the White House were about blowjobs.

    "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Sam and Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

    How will he come to terms with his wife? He announced he is gay!

    Not sure it is a brave act considering he is about to get hit with a


    sexual

    Quoted message said:

    harassment suit. If he had announced this when he made the realization
    before he cheated on his wife or before entering into an affair with a guy
    (he admitted that part), then it would be a brave act. In this case he is
    like the athletes who get caught doping and "come clean" only after they
    were caught.

    McGreevey should resign effective now rather than November 15. When the


    CT

    Quoted message said:

    governor was under fire, there were calls for him to resign immediately


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Democrats. I would if those same Democrats will call for McGreevey to do
    the same. Of course, they fear the mayor of Newark becoming governor (a
    Republican with some libertarian ideas).

  12. 1) McGreevey has been under investigation for illegal activities that I
    believe surround his fundraising. One story I heard is that he has frequent
    poker games where donors come to his house and "lose" money. This skirts
    the campaign finance laws. Again, no indictment yet.
    2) In case you missed it, his lover was given a state job(s) for which he
    was not qualified.
    3) The said lover is about to file a sexual harassment lawsuit.

    As for the lie about the BJs, remember that lie denied a woman her day in
    court under a law the Bill Clinton signed and made a big deal over. Utter
    hypocrisy.

    Also, Bush did not lie. When one knows what he/she is saying to be false,
    that is a lie. When one says something he believes to be true based on the
    information available, that is not a lie.

    "Harry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:S_VSc.17032$gd1.1744@trndny05...

    Quoted message said:

    There's a difference between Rowland (ct. gov.) and McGreevey. Rowland's
    wrongdoing was directly related to his duties as governor, and ethical
    issues such as bribery/kickbacks, etc. A governor having an extramarital
    affair (and really, can't we get over the gay part?) should have nothing


    to

    Quoted message said:

    do with his ability to stay in office.
    --But that's just me, I'm also pining for the days when the most serious
    lies told in the White House were about blowjobs.

    "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Sam and Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

    How will he come to terms with his wife? He announced he is gay!

    Not sure it is a brave act considering he is about to get hit with a


    sexual

    Quoted message said:

    harassment suit. If he had announced this when he made the realization
    before he cheated on his wife or before entering into an affair with a


    guy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (he admitted that part), then it would be a brave act. In this case he


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like the athletes who get caught doping and "come clean" only after they
    were caught.

    McGreevey should resign effective now rather than November 15. When the


    CT

    Quoted message said:

    governor was under fire, there were calls for him to resign immediately


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Democrats. I would if those same Democrats will call for McGreevey to


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the same. Of course, they fear the mayor of Newark becoming governor (a
    Republican with some libertarian ideas).

  13. No, I have dreams of your mother doing that.
    "TheBillRodgerz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am sure that is some subconscious homophobic
    thought from my Southern, white, straight upbringing.

    I bet you have dreams of your mommy spanking you, while dressed in leather
    laungerie too?

  14. Well, Pretty - I think the other foot is about to fall, so to speak.
    There's obviously a lot to this story. Governor McGreevey obviously
    felt that it was important and the right thing to do. Although we
    supported our man Clinton in the 90's, his behavior about the Lewinsky
    affair was deplorable. He should have come clean about that, too.

    Sam and Ray

    On 12 Aug 2004 20:47:15 -0500, J Golden <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I couldn't figure out why a married governor with children who has an
    affair with a man and comes to terms with his sexual orientation would
    choose to resign. However, the sexual harassment charge makes it
    understandable.

  15. He didn't "go queer" William, he is queer. Did you hear what he said
    in the press conference?

    Sam and Ray

    On 13 Aug 2004 02:00:08 GMT, [email hidden] (TheBillRodgerz)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I couldn't figure out why a married governor with children who has an
    affair with a man and comes to terms with his sexual orientation would
    choose to resign.

    He WHAT????????? I thought he balled a chic? You mean he "went queer" on us?
    Dammit...

  16. Sam (nice name by the way) we think he's brave because he's coming out
    before the other foot falls and he's not hiding or lying about it.
    That doesn't mean what he did is okay - he obviously regrets the
    infidelity, but he's not wasting taxpayer time and money lying about
    it. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. We're proud of
    him for saying what he did - not for doing what he did. make sense?

    Sam and Ray

    On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:51:18 GMT, "Sam" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Sam and Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Governor McGreevey is also a great runner. We hope he can come to
    terms with his wife. His announcement today was a very brave act.
    Way to go, Guv!

    Sam and Ray

    How will he come to terms with his wife? He announced he is gay!

    Not sure it is a brave act considering he is about to get hit with a sexual
    harassment suit. If he had announced this when he made the realization
    before he cheated on his wife or before entering into an affair with a guy
    (he admitted that part), then it would be a brave act. In this case he is
    like the athletes who get caught doping and "come clean" only after they
    were caught.

    McGreevey should resign effective now rather than November 15. When the CT
    governor was under fire, there were calls for him to resign immediately from
    Democrats. I would if those same Democrats will call for McGreevey to do
    the same. Of course, they fear the mayor of Newark becoming governor (a
    Republican with some libertarian ideas).

  17. Quoted message said:

    Also, Bush did not lie.

    OMG, you are a grade A [censored]! That [censored] lil' weasel lies before his
    morning coffee, repeatedly, deliberately! He is a lieing, degenerate, scumbag,
    draft-dodging coward! Even assuming he didn't know, it is his responsiblity to
    MAKE SURE HE KNOWS WHAT THE F*** HE'S TALKING ABOUT before he illegally, and
    immorally invades a soverighn nation.
    Published on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 Misuse of Strength
    At Camp Pendleton last week, [censored] Cheney stated that “terrorist attacks are
    not caused by the use of strength. They are invited by the perception of
    weakness.” Nonsense! If that were true, the 2001 attacks would have happened
    anywhere else but here. The US was and is the strongest nation militarily and
    financially; the targets were the very symbols of that strength. It is not
    weakness, but the heavy-handed misuse of strength that invites attacks.
    Strength can be used to empower others and build them up, inspiring partnership
    and mutuality. Or it can be used to bully others and control them, which
    inspires hatred and revenge. The first use of strength builds hope, the second,
    hopelessness. And hopeless people do desperate things.
    At the time of the 2001 attacks, Middle Eastern hostility toward the US was
    primarily based on US support of Israel’s right to security over and above
    Palestine’s right to an unoccupied sovereign state. That continues to be a
    core issue. Bush’s support of Sharon, as he bulldozes Gaza, adds to his
    illegal settlements and walls off other parts of the Palestinian West Bank, is
    deepening the resentment among Arabs and Muslims.
    In the background are decades of US employment of puppet bullies (the Shah,
    Saddam), no matter what they did to their people, in order to control Mideast
    oil.
    The average US citizen has no grasp of what US actions and policies in the
    Middle East mean to those who suffer from them, and no grasp of the hatred they
    inspire. We need to know this: as long as our government uses strength in a
    heavy-handed, bullying way, that strength will continue to spread hatred and
    hopelessness. And it is hatred and hopelessness in response to a bully that
    breed vengeful suicidal attacks.
    After the 2001 attacks, the US had a choice: we could have used intelligence to
    find and bring to trial those who planned and subsidized the attacks (they are
    still free) while reaching out to the larger Arab and Muslim community, people
    who were not responsible, to deal with their justified grievances. We could
    have used our strength to apologize for past harm, to heal old wounds, and to
    empower the peoples of the Middle East to work toward their own
    goals—dialogue without bullying, sovereignty without occupation, and control
    of their own resources. That use of strength could have eventually led to
    respectful cooperation, could have built hope.
    We could have joined with all the other nations that shared our shock and
    grief, acknowledged that we are all in this together, reaffirmed the treaties
    we had just (since January 2001) renounced, and invested our billions in
    attacking hunger, disease, and other causes of despair. That use of strength
    could have built hope.
    Instead, we repeated the kind of bullying that inspired hatred in the first
    place. We invaded a country that posed no threat but had enviable oil reserves.
    We killed twelve thousand civilians (a new study says 37,000) , imprisoned tens
    of thousands, most without reason (Red Cross), permitted a systematic pattern
    of torture and abuse (Taguba report, Red Cross, civil rights groups). We have
    co-opted Iraqi oil, dictated their constitution, shut out opposing views, and
    are digging in with several permanent military bases.
    Now the US has appointed another longtime CIA-backed strongman (with similar
    credentials as Saddam Hussein had when he was hired), widely distrusted by the
    Iraqi people, as prime minister. A week before he took office, Mr. Allawi is
    reported to have shot dead 6 alleged but as yet untried insurgents. Is this
    democracy? Does this herald the dawn of human rights and the rule of law in
    Iraq? Or does that matter as long as he answers to us?
    "Sixteen months ago, Iraq was a gathering threat to the United States and the
    civilized world. Now it is a rising democracy, an ally in the war on terror and
    the American people are safer for it," or so claims [censored] Cheney.
    That may be all we see in the mainstream media; what does the rest of the world
    see? Before the 2003 US invasion, Iraq was not a threat to anyone. Now it’s a
    puppet state pretending to be a democracy, a cash cow for US corporations
    policed by a hired thug who will protect their interests.
    The Iraqi people still have only sporadic electricity and sewage in the
    streets, but they have, thanks to KBR contracts, several growing US military
    bases, and the world’s largest US embassy. A strong majority of Iraqis think
    of the US as occupiers, not allies. Any Iraqis who want their country to be
    free from US military and corporate control have no voice, no place, and no
    hope.
    Middle Eastern Arabs and Muslims, and other peoples around the world, see the
    “preemptive” war policy to mean that whenever the US government wants a
    country, for its resources or strategic advantage, it can label that country a
    threat and use milita

    You know our country is in the crapper when the price of gas goes down only 1
    cent, and it makes BIG news on TV. Sorry there dumb-dumber, but you'll lose in
    november, know why? Because Bush is the very worse president this country has
    ever seen. He has shattered all records on overspending, loss of jobs, record
    high unemployment, record high gas prices, record high inflation, record high
    lines at soup kitchens and food pantrys, he's quadrupled our national debt,
    he's dragged us into a idiotic war, changed us from the envy of the world to
    being one of the most hated countrys on earth, he wants to quit the UN, bring
    back the draft (he'll need lots more people to die for him in his next war),
    and in a recent poll of the worlds leaders GWB was voted the top threat to
    world peace today. Every decision he has made has been a disaster. There is no
    question his judgement is the worse we've ever seen. There really is only
    reason you'd still vote for him, you just can't stand the thought of dems
    taking power again. We need somebody new, ANYBODY but Bush. You know that
    really is too bad, because on nov 2nd when we hand the chimp his butt on a
    platter, you'll be a very, very unhappy (more than usual) man. So if I were a
    republican I'd whine too, but only because I wasted my vote on such a FU as GWB
    in the first place, and I sure as hell wouldn't vote for Bush again. Nobody
    anywhere, in history, has ever done the kind of damage that this jerk has done
    in 4 years. How many buttknobs can bankrupt TWO oil companys in oil-rich Texas?
    After taking over the country with billions in surplus, it took him 6 short
    months to bankrupt the country. I mean I could go on, but it is very plain that
    NOBODY, ANYWHERE, EVER, did anywhere near the damage he has done, and nobody
    could possibly do a worse job. He's the worse president this country has ever
    had in our entire history, only possibly topped by his idiot father.
    http://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0514-14.htm
    http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushresume.htm
    http://www.totse.com/en/politics/political_spew/awarmongerexpl169226.html
    http://www.cafeshops.com/votebushout
    Use your brains, vote for http://www.johnkerry.com/
    http://www.awolbush.com/
    Here are three reasons to vote for someone other than Bush.
    1. His overly optimistic, "my way or the highway" foreign policy has alienated
    us from the rest of the world and the strategy has proven a failure. He needs
    to listen to his more diplomatic advisors, such as Powell and Rice, rather than
    Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. Will he do this? I do not see it happening.
    2. Civil liberties. Bush has strongly supported the flawed, knee jerk reaction
    to terrorism known as the Patriot Act. His unwilligness to relent, despite
    proven Constitutional offenses this Act has caused, is simple irresponsible. He
    also continues to push for DOMA and other legislation which would make law the
    continued inequality for gays and lesbians, not to mention trying reinstate the
    draft.
    3. Fiscally irresponsible. Bush has allowed for and contributed to, the largest
    spending spree on both foreign and domestic policy. It is simply bad economic
    policy to cut taxes while also increasing spending, even in a recession.
    Government is getting bigger and more intrusive under Bush, supposedly a
    conservative, than it did under the more liberal Clinton.
    My vote will go to the Democrat candidate who supports civil liberties, smaller
    government and free enterprise, John Kerry. Nobody, even if they tried, could
    possibly do a worse job of leading our country than Bush has.
    1. 2,250,000 missing jobs
    2. 700+ Billion dollar deficit
    3. 1900+ dead Americans in Bush's wars

  18. Quoted message said:

    No, I have dreams of your mother doing that.

    I'm not surprised, she's been dead for years and years, and must be pretty
    nasty by now, so I now know necrophelia is your thing now. Sicko!

  19. Quoted message said:

    Did you hear what he said
    in the press conference?

    Why would I want to listen to a [censored]?

  20. It's too bad that you're a homophobe, William, because we actually
    share the same concerns as you regarding Dubya. You are a mystery -
    quite paranoid and mean-spirited, but a mystery nonetheless.

    Sam (Ray is still at work).

    On 13 Aug 2004 18:21:57 GMT, [email hidden] (TheBillRodgerz)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Also, Bush did not lie.

    OMG, you are a grade A [censored]! That [censored] lil' weasel lies before his
    morning coffee, repeatedly, deliberately! He is a lieing, degenerate, scumbag,
    draft-dodging coward! Even assuming he didn't know, it is his responsiblity to
    MAKE SURE HE KNOWS WHAT THE F*** HE'S TALKING ABOUT before he illegally, and
    immorally invades a soverighn nation.
    Published on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 Misuse of Strength
    At Camp Pendleton last week, [censored] Cheney stated that “terrorist attacks are
    not caused by the use of strength. They are invited by the perception of
    weakness.” Nonsense! If that were true, the 2001 attacks would have happened
    anywhere else but here. The US was and is the strongest nation militarily and
    financially; the targets were the very symbols of that strength. It is not
    weakness, but the heavy-handed misuse of strength that invites attacks.
    Strength can be used to empower others and build them up, inspiring partnership
    and mutuality. Or it can be used to bully others and control them, which
    inspires hatred and revenge. The first use of strength builds hope, the second,
    hopelessness. And hopeless people do desperate things.
    At the time of the 2001 attacks, Middle Eastern hostility toward the US was
    primarily based on US support of Israel’s right to security over and above
    Palestine’s right to an unoccupied sovereign state. That continues to be a
    core issue. Bush’s support of Sharon, as he bulldozes Gaza, adds to his
    illegal settlements and walls off other parts of the Palestinian West Bank, is
    deepening the resentment among Arabs and Muslims.
    In the background are decades of US employment of puppet bullies (the Shah,
    Saddam), no matter what they did to their people, in order to control Mideast
    oil.
    The average US citizen has no grasp of what US actions and policies in the
    Middle East mean to those who suffer from them, and no grasp of the hatred they
    inspire. We need to know this: as long as our government uses strength in a
    heavy-handed, bullying way, that strength will continue to spread hatred and
    hopelessness. And it is hatred and hopelessness in response to a bully that
    breed vengeful suicidal attacks.
    After the 2001 attacks, the US had a choice: we could have used intelligence to
    find and bring to trial those who planned and subsidized the attacks (they are
    still free) while reaching out to the larger Arab and Muslim community, people
    who were not responsible, to deal with their justified grievances. We could
    have used our strength to apologize for past harm, to heal old wounds, and to
    empower the peoples of the Middle East to work toward their own
    goals—dialogue without bullying, sovereignty without occupation, and control
    of their own resources. That use of strength could have eventually led to
    respectful cooperation, could have built hope.
    We could have joined with all the other nations that shared our shock and
    grief, acknowledged that we are all in this together, reaffirmed the treaties
    we had just (since January 2001) renounced, and invested our billions in
    attacking hunger, disease, and other causes of despair. That use of strength
    could have built hope.
    Instead, we repeated the kind of bullying that inspired hatred in the first
    place. We invaded a country that posed no threat but had enviable oil reserves.
    We killed twelve thousand civilians (a new study says 37,000) , imprisoned tens
    of thousands, most without reason (Red Cross), permitted a systematic pattern
    of torture and abuse (Taguba report, Red Cross, civil rights groups). We have
    co-opted Iraqi oil, dictated their constitution, shut out opposing views, and
    are digging in with several permanent military bases.
    Now the US has appointed another longtime CIA-backed strongman (with similar
    credentials as Saddam Hussein had when he was hired), widely distrusted by the
    Iraqi people, as prime minister. A week before he took office, Mr. Allawi is
    reported to have shot dead 6 alleged but as yet untried insurgents. Is this
    democracy? Does this herald the dawn of human rights and the rule of law in
    Iraq? Or does that matter as long as he answers to us?
    "Sixteen months ago, Iraq was a gathering threat to the United States and the
    civilized world. Now it is a rising democracy, an ally in the war on terror and
    the American people are safer for it," or so claims [censored] Cheney.
    That may be all we see in the mainstream media; what does the rest of the world
    see? Before the 2003 US invasion, Iraq was not a threat to anyone. Now it’s a
    puppet state pretending to be a democracy, a cash cow for US corporations
    policed by a hired thug who will protect their interests.
    The Iraqi people still have only sporadic electricity and sewage in the
    streets, but they have, thanks to KBR contracts, several growing US military
    bases, and the world’s largest US embassy. A strong majority of Iraqis think
    of the US as occupiers, not allies. Any Iraqis who want their country to be
    free from US military and corporate control have no voice, no place, and no
    hope.
    Middle Eastern Arabs and Muslims, and other peoples around the world, see the
    “preemptive” war policy to mean that whenever the US government wants a
    country, for its resources or strategic advantage, it can label that country a
    threat and use milita

    You know our country is in the crapper when the price of gas goes down only 1
    cent, and it makes BIG news on TV. Sorry there dumb-dumber, but you'll lose in
    november, know why? Because Bush is the very worse president this country has
    ever seen. He has shattered all records on overspending, loss of jobs, record
    high unemployment, record high gas prices, record high inflation, record high
    lines at soup kitchens and food pantrys, he's quadrupled our national debt,
    he's dragged us into a idiotic war, changed us from the envy of the world to
    being one of the most hated countrys on earth, he wants to quit the UN, bring
    back the draft (he'll need lots more people to die for him in his next war),
    and in a recent poll of the worlds leaders GWB was voted the top threat to
    world peace today. Every decision he has made has been a disaster. There is no
    question his judgement is the worse we've ever seen. There really is only
    reason you'd still vote for him, you just can't stand the thought of dems
    taking power again. We need somebody new, ANYBODY but Bush. You know that
    really is too bad, because on nov 2nd when we hand the chimp his butt on a
    platter, you'll be a very, very unhappy (more than usual) man. So if I were a
    republican I'd whine too, but only because I wasted my vote on such a FU as GWB
    in the first place, and I sure as hell wouldn't vote for Bush again. Nobody
    anywhere, in history, has ever done the kind of damage that this jerk has done
    in 4 years. How many buttknobs can bankrupt TWO oil companys in oil-rich Texas?
    After taking over the country with billions in surplus, it took him 6 short
    months to bankrupt the country. I mean I could go on, but it is very plain that
    NOBODY, ANYWHERE, EVER, did anywhere near the damage he has done, and nobody
    could possibly do a worse job. He's the worse president this country has ever
    had in our entire history, only possibly topped by his idiot father.
    http://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html
    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0514-14.htm
    http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushresume.htm
    http://www.totse.com/en/politics/political_spew/awarmongerexpl169226.html
    http://www.cafeshops.com/votebushout
    Use your brains, vote for http://www.johnkerry.com/
    http://www.awolbush.com/
    Here are three reasons to vote for someone other than Bush.
    1. His overly optimistic, "my way or the highway" foreign policy has alienated
    us from the rest of the world and the strategy has proven a failure. He needs
    to listen to his more diplomatic advisors, such as Powell and Rice, rather than
    Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. Will he do this? I do not see it happening.
    2. Civil liberties. Bush has strongly supported the flawed, knee jerk reaction
    to terrorism known as the Patriot Act. His unwilligness to relent, despite
    proven Constitutional offenses this Act has caused, is simple irresponsible. He
    also continues to push for DOMA and other legislation which would make law the
    continued inequality for gays and lesbians, not to mention trying reinstate the
    draft.
    3. Fiscally irresponsible. Bush has allowed for and contributed to, the largest
    spending spree on both foreign and domestic policy. It is simply bad economic
    policy to cut taxes while also increasing spending, even in a recession.
    Government is getting bigger and more intrusive under Bush, supposedly a
    conservative, than it did under the more liberal Clinton.
    My vote will go to the Democrat candidate who supports civil liberties, smaller
    government and free enterprise, John Kerry. Nobody, even if they tried, could
    possibly do a worse job of leading our country than Bush has.
    1. 2,250,000 missing jobs
    2. 700+ Billion dollar deficit
    3. 1900+ dead Americans in Bush's wars

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