Nike Free 5.0

Red Dot said:

They supposedly simulate running barefoot.
Any thoughts?

http://www.nike.com/nikefree/

Why spend $80 on shoes to "simulate running barefoot" ?

Wouldn't actually running barefoot be a better simulation ?

How are these different from flats anyway ?

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Red Dot said:

They supposedly simulate running barefoot.
Any thoughts?

http://www.nike.com/nikefree/

Why spend $80 on shoes to "simulate running barefoot" ?

To protect the feet from cuts and abrasions. Go out and run a few
miles on a track barefoot or on the roads.

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Wouldn't actually running barefoot be a better simulation ?

How are these different from flats anyway ?

Not sure, from what I can tell and the scuttlebutt from a friend (at
Reebok actually), the shoes are a bit more substantial than flats and would
be more durable.

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Cheers,
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Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Red Dot said:

They supposedly simulate running barefoot. Any thoughts?

http://www.nike.com/nikefree/

Why spend $80 on shoes to "simulate running barefoot" ?

To protect the feet from cuts and abrasions. Go out and run a few
miles on a track barefoot or on the roads.

Valid point. I've tried it. It takes a long time to get used to barefoot,
and after
a few weeks not going barefoot (eg, after a foot injury), you're back to
scratch.

I went from half an hours twice a week for three weeks, to an hours twice
a week for five or six weeks, then daily was not a problem. Broken glass
and pointy sticks were a problem, as were VERY smooth paths that
a small about of gravel had snuck on to. Running on gravel was fine...

I've been able to walk barefoot to retain toughness of the soul and the
right kind of integrity of the foot. [Teaches you not to use "heel strike"].

Tom.

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They supposedly simulate running barefoot.
Any thoughts?

http://www.nikesux.com/nikefree/

And for pricing info, go to "[email hidden]".
Don't forget, the first $40 from your purchase price goes to the
advertising budget.

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Not sure, from what I can tell and the scuttlebutt from a friend

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(at
Reebok actually), the shoes are a bit more substantial than flats and would
be more durable.

Gee, flats with padding...how unique!

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Red Dot said:

They supposedly simulate running barefoot.

Why spend $80 on shoes to "simulate running barefoot" ?

To protect the feet from cuts and abrasions. Go out and run a few
miles on a track barefoot or on the roads.

It depends a bit on the facilities you have available, but you don't have to
run barefoot on roads to get benefits. Two years ago at spring break time
there was a kid previously from our area who was on the xc and track teams at
Stanford, just doing a workout on our track. He did his wamup jog of 4 laps
barefoot on the infield, which is the same thing that I do and I have high
school runners do. We also do drills barefoot on grass.

Now, I actually live at the beach and do morning runs barefoot on days I don't
do a track workout. Obviously, there aren't too many beaches in Colorado
Springs. But I think that just about everyone serious enough about running to
warm up properly (including some ROM drills) can find a track infield or soccer
field, or something of the kind that they can actually run barefoot on.

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Wouldn't actually running barefoot be a better simulation ?

How are these different from flats anyway ?

Not sure, from what I can tell and the scuttlebutt from a friend (at
Reebok actually), the shoes are a bit more substantial than flats and would
be more durable.

My understanding is that these are not running shoes, per se. These are WARMUP
shoes with something like 50 flex points (where the typical running shoes have
1 or 2) to emulate the feel of running barefoot. If you read the pr stuff that
Nike has written about the Free, it talks about warmup sprints for football or
drills for running. Nowhere do they talk about doing marathon training in
these, and I would think that anyone who tries to replace regular running shoes
with the Free is going to be diappointed.

What they're trying to sell these shoes for, you can do without any shoes, for
free.

Lyndon
"Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach
Brooks Johnson

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On 2004-07-16, Red Dot <[email hidden]> wrote:
> They supposedly simulate running barefoot.

Why spend $80 on shoes to "simulate running barefoot" ?

To protect the feet from cuts and abrasions. Go out and run a few
miles on a track barefoot or on the roads.

It depends a bit on the facilities you have available, but you don't have

to

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run barefoot on roads to get benefits. Two years ago at spring break time
there was a kid previously from our area who was on the xc and track teams

at

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Stanford, just doing a workout on our track. He did his wamup jog of 4

laps

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barefoot on the infield, which is the same thing that I do and I have high
school runners do. We also do drills barefoot on grass.

Now, I actually live at the beach and do morning runs barefoot on days I

don't

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do a track workout. Obviously, there aren't too many beaches in Colorado
Springs. But I think that just about everyone serious enough about

running to

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warm up properly (including some ROM drills) can find a track infield or

soccer

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field, or something of the kind that they can actually run barefoot on.

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Wouldn't actually running barefoot be a better simulation ?

How are these different from flats anyway ?

Not sure, from what I can tell and the scuttlebutt from a friend (at
Reebok actually), the shoes are a bit more substantial than flats and

would

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be more durable.

My understanding is that these are not running shoes, per se. These are

WARMUP

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shoes with something like 50 flex points (where the typical running shoes

have

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1 or 2) to emulate the feel of running barefoot. If you read the pr stuff

that

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Nike has written about the Free, it talks about warmup sprints for

football or

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drills for running. Nowhere do they talk about doing marathon training in
these, and I would think that anyone who tries to replace regular running

shoes

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with the Free is going to be diappointed.

What they're trying to sell these shoes for, you can do without any shoes,

for

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free.

Lyndon
"Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track

Coach

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Brooks Johnson

I agree that some barefoot work can be a good thing, at least in theory. I
once had a routine of doing some speed on a football field. Less time now
and that has gone out the back.

Too bad you don't know how to snip a post you numbnutz jerkoff.

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My understanding is that these are not running shoes, per se. These are

WARMUP

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shoes with something like 50 flex points (where the typical running shoes

have

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1 or 2) to emulate the feel of running barefoot. If you read the pr stuff

that

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Nike has written about the Free, it talks about warmup sprints for

football or

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drills for running. Nowhere do they talk about doing marathon training in
these, and I would think that anyone who tries to replace regular running

shoes

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with the Free is going to be diappointed.

Actually, I tried to go by Niketown here in LA to try them on today.
Apparently they were supposed to be released today, but they didn't get
their shipment.

The lady on the phone there told me that there are two models--one for
cross-training and one for running. The former is $90, while the latter is
$85...according to her. Whether they are only intended for running *drills*
I don't know, but there are two separate models.