Niacin Question

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 21:01:44 -0500, "ceniza" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

Niacinamide is a variation of niacin It its
niacinamide form, it is useful in arthritis and early-
onset type I diabetes

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 21:01:44 -0500, "ceniza" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

Niacin in its niacinamide form is useful for arthritis
and early-onset type I diabetes patients as I recall it
but --- unlike nicotinic acid -- has no or litle effect
on HDL levels.

Niaspan, a slow release niacin, may cause less flushing
and upset stomach than regular niacin. Unfortunately, slow-
release niacin causes liver damage more often than
regular niacin.

I hope my information here is correct.

Michael

ceniza said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that ceniza wrote in article
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Quoted message said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

My first cardiologist started me on Slo-Niacin
(specifically) six years ago, starting at 1000mg (currently
500mg). He was a very capable doctor, experienced with
athletes' heart problems, and obviously trusted Slo-Niacin
to do what he felt needed to be done about my lipid profile.
--
Don [email hidden]

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Quoted message said:

ceniza said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

Andrew

Is Slo-niacin a brand name? I couldn't find it here.

And Don? Did you have or do you have any neuropathy type
side effects from that much niacin.

I'm not sure if that was it, but I took B complex (along
with Andrew's suggested coenzympe q10) for a couple months,
and had tingling again in my feet and hands.

So I'm astounded at that much niacin. Or am I confusing it
with something else.

Zee (the nice one)

Don Kirkman said:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that ceniza wrote in
article <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

My first cardiologist started me on Slo-Niacin
(specifically) six years ago, starting at 1000mg
(currently 500mg). He was a very capable doctor,
experienced with athletes' heart problems, and obviously
trusted Slo-Niacin to do what he felt needed to be done
about my lipid profile.
--
Don [email hidden]

Your first cardiologist was wise. Were you able to decrease
the Slo-Niacin by losing weight?

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Andrew

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MD/PhD said:

ceniza said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

What about inositol hexanicotinate? It, like Slo-Niacin,
release their niacin content over 10 or more hours. Niaspan
is designed to do it in about eight hours (while you sleeo).

What is it about slow release niacin forms that would
increase the risk of liver problems, as many claim?

Quoted message said:

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Andrew

Zee said:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

ceniza said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin
and will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What
about the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one
with Inositol in the name.?

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

Andrew

Is Slo-niacin a brand name? I couldn't find it here.

It is.

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And Don? Did you have or do you have any neuropathy type
side effects from that much niacin.

Niacin is not known for neuropathic effects.

Quoted message said:

I'm not sure if that was it, but I took B complex (along
with Andrew's suggested coenzympe q10) for a couple
months, and had tingling again in my feet and hands.

Tingling is a good thing if there had been loss of
sensation.

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So I'm astounded at that much niacin. Or am I confusing it
with something else.

Slo-Niacin comes in 250 mg, 500 mg, and 750 mg.

It is not very effective for lowering LDL as in your case.

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Oliver Costich said:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:21:17 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,

MD/PhD said:

ceniza said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin
and will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What
about the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one
with Inositol in the name.?

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

What about inositol hexanicotinate?

It works too.

Quoted message said:

It, like Slo-Niacin, release their niacin content over 10
or more hours. Niaspan is designed to do it in about eight
hours (while you sleeo).

What is it about slow release niacin forms that would
increase the risk of liver problems, as many claim?

It is the dose rather than the pharmacokinetics that brings
the potential for hepatic injury.

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Andrew

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
in article <[email hidden]>:

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Don Kirkman wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that ceniza wrote in
article <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin and
will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What about
the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one with
Inositol in the name.?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My first cardiologist started me on Slo-Niacin
(specifically) six years ago, starting at 1000mg
(currently 500mg). He was a very capable doctor,
experienced with athletes' heart problems, and obviously
trusted Slo-Niacin to do what he felt needed to be done
about my lipid profile.

Quoted message said:

Your first cardiologist was wise. Were you able to decrease
the Slo-Niacin by losing weight?

Yes, as I said he was very capable, including an
understanding of athletes' cardiology.

No, as we've discussed before I have never had a weight
problem, and I had been running for over 20 years before the
MI and starting use Niacin, so I did not decrease it by
starting exercise either. My dose was reduced because my
cardiologist observed my lab results, particularly for HDL,
reaching the levels he wanted to see.
--
Don [email hidden]

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Zee wrote in article
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

ceniza wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin
and will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What
about the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one
with Inositol in the name.?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

Quoted message said:

Is Slo-niacin a brand name? I couldn't find it here.

Slo-Niacin is a brand name for a slow-release formulation. I
don't know where "here" is, but in my part of the US it's on
most drug-store shelves (OTC). Perhaps it's prescription
only or simply not used much in other parts of the world.

Quoted message said:

And Don? Did you have or do you have any neuropathy type
side effects from that much niacin.

None whatever that I can distinguish from the side effects
of everyday life.

Quoted message said:

I'm not sure if that was it, but I took B complex (along
with Andrew's suggested coenzympe q10) for a couple months,
and had tingling again in my feet and hands.

Tingling and a warm rush are normally effects of niacin for
a short time after ingestion; they are very much mitigated
in slow release niacin (at least in my brand).
--
Don [email hidden]

MD/PhD said:

Oliver Costich said:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 03:21:17 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,

MD/PhD said:

ceniza wrote:
>
> I recently learned that Niacinamide (forgive my
> spellings and future spellings) is not really Niacin
> and will not have benefit like Nicotinic Acid. What
> about the other variations of "Niacin". Especially the
> nonflush, safe-for-the liver varieties like the one
> with Inositol in the name.?

Niaspan and Slo-niacin.

What about inositol hexanicotinate?

It works too.

Quoted message said:

It, like Slo-Niacin, release their niacin content over 10
or more hours. Niaspan is designed to do it in about
eight hours (while you sleeo).

What is it about slow release niacin forms that would
increase the risk of liver problems, as many claim?

It is the dose rather than the pharmacokinetics that brings
the potential for hepatic injury.

So that 1000mg of conventional niacin is no less likely to
be a problem than Slo-Niacin, flush free niacin or Niaspan?
I take Niaspan all at once at bedtime. Can you do that with
the otheres as well?

Quoted message said:

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Andrew