Shimano-Europe's website shows the new Nexus 8-speed internal gear hub. Have any of you used it, and how does it compare to the 7-speed hubs? Shimano claims it is lighter and more efficient that the seven-speed hubs. How much lighter, and how much more efficient? Have they improved the Roller Brake too? Does anyone know when the 8-speed hubs will start selling these in America? I ask these questions because I am thinking of building a city bike with an internal gear hub, and I want to know if it is worth waiting for the new one.
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scituatejohn said:
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Shimano-Europe's website shows the new Nexus 8-speed internal gear hub. Have any of you used it,
and how does it compare to the 7-speed hubs?Nobody outside of Shimano has used it, they haven't started shipping them yet.
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Shimano claims it is lighter and more efficient that the seven-speed hubs. How much lighter, and
how much more efficient?No internal hub gear manufacturer has ever published efficiency data.
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Have they improved the Roller Brake too?
Probably not, I'd skip the Roller Brake.
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Does anyone know when the 8-speed hubs will start selling these in America?
I have 8 of them on order, hope to get some this fall, but don't have a firm date from Shimano.
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I ask these questions because I am thinking of building a city bike with an internal gear hub, and
I want to know if it is worth waiting for the new one.I do have the gear ratios entered into my online gear calculator:
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Sheldon Brown said:
No internal hub gear manufacturer has ever published efficiency data.
Rohloff has; see rohloff.derohloff.deOpen ↗ (both English and German
versions of this page are available)Tom Ace
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John McCarthy asked a number of questions about the Nexus 8-speed, which I answered from memory
from my home.Now I'm at the shop and I can answer his question about weight. According to the spec sheet from
Shimano, the hub weighs 1750 grams.That is without a Rollerbrake...it appears that this hub will be sold separately from the
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Sheldon Brown said:
I do have the gear ratios entered into my online gear calculator:
Thanks! I had a look at them and was rather badly surprised how unevenly spaced they are:
1 0.527
22.2% 2 0.644
23.1% 3 0.748
24.8% 4 0.851
25.5% 5 1
26.3% 6 1.223
27.% 7 1.419
28.8% 8 1.615The 22% jump between 5 and 6 is especially bad, because presumably on most bikes these gears will
correspond to "normal" speed (i.e. flat, no wind, medium effort).Andy
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Thanks for answering my questions.
In case anybody is interested, I found some more information written about the new 8-speed Nexus hub on this Australian page.
I think that I might wait until the 8R Sport is available. I went to my LBS, and the guy that works there called Shimano, and the Shimano guy confirmed that the 8R Sport will be lighter and more efficient than the plain 8R; he didn’t say by how much. He didn’t say when it will be made available to bike shops either.
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Does this hub have 135 mm spacing?
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