Next Year's Winner

Tom Kunich said:

OK, from this viewpoint it appears that there will be four strong
competitors next Tour:

1) Basso 5:1
2) Ullrich 6:1
3) Valverde 15:1
4) Vinokourov 17:1
5) Liepheimer 25:1

The top three appear to have a real leg-up. Vino has a weakness for bad
days. Levi on the other hand is a tiny bit slow but is there on every
stage.

Cunego's plans for next year ?

Where are those odds posted? IMO, the combo bet of Basso or Ullrich
to win looks very appealing at 11:2.

Tom Kunich said:

OK, from this viewpoint it appears that there will be four strong
competitors next Tour:

Quoted message said:

1) Basso 5:1
2) Ullrich 6:1
3) Valverde 15:1
4) Vinokourov 17:1
5) Liepheimer 25:1

Quoted message said:

The top three appear to have a real leg-up. Vino has a weakness for bad
days. Levi on the other hand is a tiny bit slow but is there on every
stage.

Euskatel could send "the terminator" instead of Mayo/Zubaldia next year
- Basso and Ulrich will take him very seriously if he's in the same
shape as he was in this years Tour de Swiss

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Morten Reippuert Knudsen said:

"the terminator"

Oh man, you even screw up the surname. It's "Terminaitor", a play on the
Terminator and his first name Aitor.

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Sorry, meant to add: yes, he could be an important contender.

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LastToKnow said:

Where are those odds posted? IMO, the combo bet of Basso or Ullrich
to win looks very appealing at 11:2.

5:1 + 6:1 = 29:13

-Smurf

here are the odds currently offered by MrBookmaker.
Euskaltel believers should put the money NOW

BASSO Ivan (ITA - CSC) 2.50
BELOKI D. Joseba (SPA - LST) 40.00
CONTADOR Alberto (SPA - LST) 75.00
CUNEGO Damiano (ITA - LAM) 12.00
EVANS Cadel (AUS - DVL) 40.00
GOMEZ MARCHANTE J. Angel (SPA - SDV) 75.00
GONZALEZ J. Aitor (SPA - EUS) 100.00
HINCAPIE George (USA - DSC) 25.00
KARPETS Vladimir (RUS - IBA) 50.00
KASHECHKIN Andrey (KAZ - C.A) 100.00
KLÖDEN Andreas (GER - TMO) 25.00
LANDIS Floyd (USA - PHO) 60.00
LEIPHEIMER Levi (USA - GST) 40.00
MANCEBO Francisco (SPA - IBA) 35.00
MAYO D. Iban (SPA - EUS) 50.00
MENCHOV Denis (RUS - RAB) 75.00
MERCKX Axel (BEL - DVL) 300.00
MOREAU Christophe (FRA - C.A) 150.00
PEREIRO Oscar (SPA - PHO) 40.00
POPOVYCH Yaroslav (UKR - DSC) 18.00
RASMUSSEN Michael (DEN - RAB) 40.00
RUJANO G. José (VEN - CLM) 100.00
SAVOLDELLI Paolo (ITA - DSC) 50.00
SIMONI Gilberto (ITA - LAM) 50.00
ULLRICH Jan (GER - TMO) 3.50
VALVERDE B. Alejandro (SPA - IBA) 10.00
VINOKOUROV Alexandre (KAZ - TMO) 6.00
ZUBELDIA Haimar (SPA - EUS) 100.00

Bart Van Hoorebeeck said:

here are the odds currently offered by MrBookmaker.
Euskaltel believers should put the money NOW

GONZALEZ J. Aitor (SPA - EUS) 100.00

I like those odds.

Quoted message said:

MERCKX Axel (BEL - DVL) 300.00

HAHA! I'll offer 10000 to 1.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Bart Van Hoorebeeck said:

here are the odds currently offered by MrBookmaker.
Euskaltel believers should put the money NOW

GONZALEZ J. Aitor (SPA - EUS) 100.00

Quoted message said:

I like those odds.

me too - i think the ods will go way down after the Vuleta.

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"Bart Van Hoorebeeck" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Xo0Ge.155426$052.8165463
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Quoted message said:

here are the odds currently offered by MrBookmaker.
Euskaltel believers should put the money NOW

Quoted message said:

HINCAPIE George (USA - DSC) 25.00
LANDIS Floyd (USA - PHO) 60.00
LEIPHEIMER Levi (USA - GST) 40.00

My dumbass American bet is going on LANCE Hincapie!

NS

Oh please! Aitor has very little control of when he hits form. If he
puts in a strong Vuelta (final GC podium) then you can talk about the
possibility that he can take a shot at the Tour. He reminds me of
Kloden because both of them seem to have the capacity to compete
against the best in the sport, but neither of them seem capable of
planning their peak form.

Chris M said:

Oh please! Aitor has very little control of when he hits form. If he
puts in a strong Vuelta (final GC podium) then you can talk about the
possibility that he can take a shot at the Tour. He reminds me of
Kloden because both of them seem to have the capacity to compete
against the best in the sport, but neither of them seem capable of
planning their peak form.

so far Aitor Gonzales has planned his first peak in 2005 perfect: Tour
de Swiss. Of curse we will have to wait and se weather he will peak
again in this years Vuelta.

He did have a coupple of losy years with Feretti, but on the other
hand noene else has managed to be a competitative GT rader at
Feretti over the years. Aitor Gonzales did not have problems with his
GT shape before he went to Feretti.

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