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  1. Original post
    Mike
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    #1

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK groups
    over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive trolling
    plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of time before
    all groups become so infected.

    A new group has been set up on Yahoo with the specific purpose of discussing ways to counteract
    these problems and hopefully arrive at a satisfactory long term solution. The genuine posters in
    this group are very welcome to join this new group, which has been set up for the express
    purpose of discussing the above problems, exchanging ideas, information and perhaps helping to
    achieve a solution.

    The new groups charter is set out below.

    Those interested in joining the group should send an email to [email hidden] from the actual
    address to be subscribed. For obvious reasons, only requests from those offering an ISP email
    address for subscription will be accepted to the group. Hotmail, Yahoo and other similar disposable
    email addresses will not be subscribed.

    The sole purpose of this group is to attempt to find a solution to the present disruption in the
    public internet newsgroups from the various trolls. In order to prevent the disruption of this
    group, certain precautions have been taken.... The group is hidden, access to read and post messages
    is limited to members only. Membership is by invitation only and it will be tightly moderated.

    The rules of the group are as follows:-

    1. Any attempt to disrupt the proceedings or discussions by any member will result in that member
    being banned from the group.

    2. Foul language will be met with that member being banned from the group.

    3. All postings should be on topic. Any drifting away from the purpose of this group is liable to be
    met with a warning from the groups owners, the need for repeated warnings will be met with that
    individual being banned from the group.

    4. Advertisements are not permitted.

    The groups owners have full authority to ban anyone from the group without any explanation.

    Please do feel at liberty to discus the problem and offer solutions to the problems.

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  2. Elyob
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    #2

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive
    trolling plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of
    time before all groups become so infected.

    And how do we know this isn't a troll/spam? I certainly don't know what you're on about.

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  3. James Hodson
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    #3
    Mike said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive
    trolling plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of
    time before all groups become so infected.

    [SNIP]

    Quoted message said:

    The new groups charter is set out below.

    [SNIP]

    Re the above: Sez 'oo?

    u.r.c works reasonably well, IMO.

    James

    --
    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

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  4. Tony Raven
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    #4
    elyob said:

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive
    trolling plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of
    time before all groups become so infected.

    And how do we know this isn't a troll/spam? I certainly don't know what you're on about.

    Almost certainly. Either that or an attempt to flood someone's mailbox with lots of requests to join
    a "hidden" i.e. non-existent group

    Tony

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  5. Michael Kent
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    #5

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... snip

    Quoted message said:

    Those interested in joining the group should send an email to [email hidden] from the
    actual address to be subscribed. For obvious reasons, only requests from those offering an ISP
    email address for subscription will be accepted to the group. Hotmail, Yahoo and other similar
    disposable email addresses will not be subscribed.


    Anyone else find this bit confusing,?

    Quoted message said:

    For obvious reasons,

    such as? Why can the owner use one?

    Why hasnt the sender used his bt internet address

    Strange strange people in usenet(cept the ones in u.r.c of course :P)

    Cheers

    Michael

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  6. Just Zis Guy
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    #6
    Mike said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months.

    Spamming by address harvesters? Not new, really.

    Quoted message said:

    These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive trolling plus pointless cross
    posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of time before all groups become so
    infected.

    Oh, you want to set up a Yahoo group to discuss what to do about P**l Sm*th! I see it all now,
    some of it.

    Guy
    ===
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

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  7. Velvet
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    #7
    Michael Kent said:

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... snip

    Quoted message said:

    Those interested in joining the group should send an email to [email hidden] from the
    actual address to be subscribed. For obvious reasons, only requests from those offering an ISP
    email address for subscription will be accepted to the group. Hotmail, Yahoo and other similar
    disposable email addresses will not be subscribed.

    Anyone else find this bit confusing,?

    Quoted message said:

    For obvious reasons,

    such as? Why can the owner use one?

    Why hasnt the sender used his bt internet address

    Strange strange people in usenet(cept the ones in u.r.c of course :P)

    Cheers

    Michael

    They're trolling. In another group, it's descended into chaos already from the crossposting that
    started up subsequently. Not to mention usenet forging that made it look like a known poster was
    reassuring that it was indeed ok.

    Best to not reply and mark the thread ignored (or whatever your reader calls it).

    Velvet

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  8. Richard Bates
    Archived post
    #8

    On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:36:05 -0000, in
    <[email hidden]>, "Tony Raven"

    Quoted message said:
    elyob said:

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive
    trolling plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of
    time before all groups become so infected.

    And how do we know this isn't a troll/spam? I certainly don't know what you're on about.

    Almost certainly. Either that or an attempt to flood someone's mailbox with lots of requests to
    join a "hidden" i.e. non-existent group

    Tony


    Sounds like a crafty way of harvesting email addresses to me.

    --
    Due to a typing error on the Children's Hospital menu Saturday evening now offers "Beef burger in a
    bum". Email: Put only the word "richard" before the @ sign.

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  9. Zog The Undenia
    Archived post
    #9
    Mike said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive
    trolling plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of
    time before all groups become so infected.

    The only abuse on here is people mentioning h*****s!

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  10. Simon Brooke
    Archived post
    #10
    elyob said:

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The subscribers to this newsgroup may well be aware of a problem that has affected several UK
    groups over recent months. These groups have been subjected to huge amounts of extremely abusive
    trolling plus pointless cross posting - and the problem is spreading; it may only be a matter of
    time before all groups become so infected.

    And how do we know this isn't a troll/spam? I certainly don't know what you're on about.

    Technically, it is spam; it has been posted (not crossposted) to more than seven groups. The OP
    should get his account pulled.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simon

    -- mens vacua in medio vacuo --

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  11. Tony Raven
    Archived post
    #11
    Simon Brooke said:


    Technically, it is spam; it has been posted (not crossposted) to more than seven groups. The OP
    should get his account pulled.

    Ever tried to get Hotmail to do anything, let alone pull an account?

    Tony

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  12. Peter B
    Archived post
    #12

    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote

    a load of bollocks about fixing a non-existant problem.

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  13. Marten Hoffmann
    Archived post
    #13

    [email hidden] schreef ...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote

    a load of bollocks about fixing a non-existant problem.

    Which also happens to be the definition of Marketing ;-)

    --
    Regards, Marten

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  14. Martinm
    Archived post
    #14

    Marten Hoffmann <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] schreef ...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike" <[email hidden]> wrote

    a load of bollocks about fixing a non-existant problem.

    Which also happens to be the definition of Marketing ;-)

    I got the Microsoft b******s e-mails within 30 min of changing my address. Another advantage of
    broadband is that you can download free anti-virus software from grisoft every month to stay one
    step ahead ;-)

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  15. The Mark
    Archived post
    #15

    MartinM wrote: Another advantage of broadband is that you can

    Quoted message said:

    download free anti-virus software from grisoft every month to stay one step ahead ;-)

    You don't need broadband for that, I can do that on dial up.

    Seasons greetings. Mark

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  16. Martinm
    Archived post
    #16

    "the Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    MartinM wrote: Another advantage of broadband is that you can

    Quoted message said:

    download free anti-virus software from grisoft every month to stay one step ahead ;-)

    You don't need broadband for that, I can do that on dial up.

    Seasons greetings. Mark

    This is true but the file size on some dial ups stops files to big from downloading. Another useful
    bit of free security if on line all day is Kerio Personal Firewall.

    Compliments of the season

    Martin

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  17. The Mark
    Archived post
    #17
    MartinM said:

    This is true but the file size on some dial ups stops files to big from downloading. Another
    useful bit of free security if on line all day is Kerio Personal Firewall.

    Compliments of the season

    Martin

    Thanks for that, I'm downloading it now, I'll give it a try.
    --
    Mark

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  18. Dave Larrington
    Archived post
    #18
    Mike said:

    2. Foul language will be met with that member being banned from the group.

    Short comment: This is Clearly Bollocks Long comment: Who decides what constitutes foul language? I,
    for example, am not at all keen on the words "work", "McLaren" or "Ruby Wax".

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

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  19. James Hodson
    Archived post
    #19

    On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:27:59 -0000, "Dave Larrington"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [Freely and inappropriately SNIPPED]

    Quoted message said:

    Who decides what constitutes foul language? I, for example, am not at all keen on the words
    [of] McLaren

    Too right, Dave. Ron Dennis does talk a load of [censored] at times. Frank Williams and Patrick Head,
    OTOH, always speak most wisely.

    James

    --
    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

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