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  1. See

    <http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821929.html?menu=news.latestheadlines>

    "New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists

    New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists have been agreed by Europe's
    governments.

    Car makers will have to make the fronts of cars safer to reduce the level of injuries to
    pedestrians.

    The rules will apply to all new models of vehicles under 2.5 tonnes - virtually all cars and
    most vans.

    Two new crash tests concerning protection against head and leg injuries will be introduced in 2005,
    with two even tougher tests added in 2010.

    Passing the tests will involve changes to car bumper and bonnet designs - but Science and Innovation
    minister Lord Sainsbury said the result will be an average 80 fewer pedestrian and cyclist deaths
    and 1,600 fewer serious injuries.

    Car manufacturers have accepted the need for more safety measures after years of pressure to
    concentrate on cutting the car crash dangers to people outside vehicles as well as the occupants.

    The extra consumer cost of a new car will be only about £15, say government 'number crunchers'.

    They have also worked out that motorists' fuel bills will rise by about £2.50 a year because of the
    reduced aerodynamic efficiency of more pedestrian-friendly car fronts.

    About 8,000 pedestrians and cyclists die every year on EU roads and about 300,000 are
    seriously injured.

    Most are hit by the fronts of cars in urban and residential areas and the majority are children and
    the elderly.

    The new crash tests are based on recommendations from the European Enhanced Vehicle Safety Committee
    after an EU-funded research programme lasting more than 20 years.

    Story filed: 18:25 Monday 22nd September 2003"

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  2. (wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX) said:

    See

    <http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821929.html?menu=news.latestheadlines>

    From there I navigated to <http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821932.html?menu=>

    I'm on Lembit's side regarding "his" asteroid / comet and its collision with Earth (possibly in the
    Norfolk area) but I think he's lost it with this.

    James

    --
    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

  3. "wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    See


    <http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821929.html?menu=news.latestheadlines>

    Quoted message said:


    "New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists

    New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists have been


    agreed

    Quoted message said:

    by Europe's governments.

    Car makers will have to make the fronts of cars safer to reduce the level


    of

    Quoted message said:

    injuries to pedestrians.

    The rules will apply to all new models of vehicles under 2.5 tonnes -


    virtually

    Quoted message said:

    all cars and most vans.

    So the bullbar [censored] will now have to buy heavier vehicles to stay macho?

  4. "Fred Nerk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    See


    <http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821929.html?menu=news.latestheadlines>

    Quoted message said:


    "New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists


    <SNIP>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The rules will apply to all new models of vehicles under 2.5 tonnes -


    virtually

    Quoted message said:

    all cars and most vans.

    So the bullbar [censored] will now have to buy heavier vehicles to stay macho?

    Na, they'll just get the cars weighed with themselves already inside.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Passing the tests will involve changes to car bumper and bonnet designs -


    but

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    Science and Innovation minister Lord Sainsbury said the result will be an average 80 fewer
    pedestrian and cyclist deaths and 1,600 fewer serious injuries.

    Seems like a huge amount of effort to me - especially as people hit by older cars without these
    improvements (i.e. the vast majority on the roads) will still be toast.

    What we need is an innovation minister with balls who will reduce speed limits on urban roads.

  6. "wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    See

    <http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821929.html?menu=news.latestheadlines>

    Quoted message said:


    "New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists

    New car safety standards to protect pedestrians and cyclists have been agreed by Europe's
    governments.

    Car makers will have to make the fronts of cars safer to reduce the level of injuries to
    pedestrians.

    The rules will apply to all new models of vehicles under 2.5 tonnes
    - virtually all cars and most vans.

    <irony> This is bad news for cyclists and pedestrians. Risk compensation will mean that drivers
    will take even more risks knowing that vunerable road users are less likely to be injured. They
    should be legislating for sharp blades to be arrayed across the front of the vehicles to make us
    safer </irony>

    Tony

    --
    "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain

  7. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <irony> This is bad news for cyclists and pedestrians. Risk compensation will


    mean

    Quoted message said:

    that drivers will take even more risks knowing that vunerable road users


    are

    Quoted message said:

    less likely to be injured. They should be legislating for sharp blades to be arrayed across the
    front of the vehicles to make us safer </irony>

    Nah. Rearrange the airbag system so the explosive charge shoots a 12 inch blades up the drivers [censored]
    and another to cut off his goolies if he so much as touches an vulnerable road user.

    Mind you, a sharp slap on the bonnet of such a car would be murder of course
    :~/

  8. Tony W said:


    Nah. Rearrange the airbag system so the explosive charge shoots a 12 inch blades up the drivers
    [censored] and another to cut off his goolies if he so much as touches an vulnerable road user.

    That could result in a section of society trying to run us over to save having to pay the cost of
    the operation.

    Tony

    --
    "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain

  9. Drinky said:

    Seems like a huge amount of effort to me - especially as people hit by older cars without these
    improvements (i.e. the vast majority on the roads) will still be toast.

    OK, try using foresight. If the improvements are made now, then in 5 or 10 years time most cars on
    the road will have the improvements. That seems like a good thing to me.

    --
    Danny Colyer (remove safety to reply) ( juggler.netdanny ) Recumbent cycle page:
    speedy5.freeserve.co.ukrecumbents "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -
    Thomas Paine

  10. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony W said:


    Nah. Rearrange the airbag system so the explosive charge shoots a 12 inch blades up the drivers
    [censored] and another to cut off his goolies if he so much as touches an vulnerable road user.

    That could result in a section of society trying to run us over to save having to pay the cost of
    the operation.

    I was not thinking 'surgical strike' here -- more Like a blunt machete all the way up to the navel
    (or higher).

    T

  11. Quoted message said:

    This is bad news for cyclists and pedestrians. Risk compensation will


    mean

    Quoted message said:

    that drivers will take even more risks knowing that vunerable road users


    are

    Quoted message said:

    less likely to be injured. They should be legislating for sharp blades to be arrayed across the
    front of the vehicles to make us safer </irony>

    so they'd stick all this ironmongery on the front of their cars and call it <irony>?

    Quoted message said:


    Tony

    --
    "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."

    Quoted message said:

    Mark Twain

    "to tell the truth, I can't remember anything"

    Ronald Reagan

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