Newbie - Red in the face

Midnight Moocher said:

I've been running about 1.7 miles...I complete the run in about 10 minutes

No way, are you sure?

Midnight Moocher said:

I've been running about 1.7 miles a couple of days a week for about a month.

I know this is nothing compared to what some of you run but I'm just getting
into it and I don't have very good trainers yet (leave me with blisters).

I complete the run in about 10 minutes, and can now run the distance without
being left very short of breath. My muscles are no longer sore just after the
run as they were when I started out. My heart rate comes back down to normal
very quickly after I've finished the run, One thing bothers me though. I'm
left REALLY red in the face for quite a long period after the run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that
can't be helped?

If you're really doing a 1.7 mile run in 10 minutes, you might want to try
slowing it down just a little (unless you're a national class athlete)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Midnight Moocher said:

I've been running about 1.7 miles a couple of days a week for about a
month.

I know this is nothing compared to what some of you run but I'm just
getting into it and I don't have very good trainers yet (leave me with
blisters).

I complete the run in about 10 minutes, and can now run the distance
without being left very short of breath. My muscles are no longer sore
just after the run as they were when I started out. My heart rate
comes back down to normal very quickly after I've finished the run,
One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite
a long period after the run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something
that can't be helped?

That's a 5:53 mile. Are you sure about that time and distance? If you're a
beginner, I'd say you have some natural talent.

Phil M.

--
If you can empty your own boat
Crossing the river of the world,
No one will oppose you,
No one will seek to harm you. -Chuang Tzu

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One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite a long
period after the
run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that
can't be helped?

Stop changing in the womans locker room, and you won't feel like everyone's
staring at you.

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That's a 5:53 mile. Are you sure about that time and distance? If you're a
beginner, I'd say you have some natural talent.

You guys are just WAY too easy...

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TheBillRodgerz <[email hidden]> writes

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That's a 5:53 mile. Are you sure about that time and distance? If you're a
beginner, I'd say you have some natural talent.

You guys are just WAY too easy...

Nah, you're too easy to spot, TBR. When a question comes in from a
newbie, we just wait 24 hours. If you have mocked and insulted them
within this time, the question was genuine. If you haven't replied, then
it was just one of your sock puppets. See? Easy.
--
Mel Rimmer

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Midnight Moocher said:

I've been running about 1.7 miles...I complete the run in about 10 minutes

No way, are you sure?

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that's really pretty fast, that's your problem ... slow down, pace
yourself. Unless you're into track and field events, going slower will
help you develop your running. So, slow down, run at a pace where you
could talk to a friend while you moved, until you build up a strong
aerobic base. When you can run three-five miles at a time without
passing out or walking, then you might want to start throwing in speed
work, ie: sprinting a bit, followed by slower running ...

What bothers me more about your post is that you've been running for a
month and you're still running in shoes that give you blisters.

For God's sake man, buy shoes that fit you better. Go to a running
store, not "Bob's House of All Sports," and have the clerk fit you
into shoes that fit and that fit your body's quirks, ie: flat feet,
high arches, whatever.

There is no reason you should develop blisters on a 1.7-mile run, and
there is damn sure no reason you should CONTINUE to run in shoes that
give you blisters.

Running requires darn little in the way of equipment, but for most of
us it does require some decent shoes.

Running's not a hard sport, but if it hurts, you're doing it wrong :-)

Enjoy!

"Mel Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
TheBillRodgerz <[email hidden]> writes

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That's a 5:53 mile. Are you sure about that time and distance? If you're

a

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beginner, I'd say you have some natural talent.

You guys are just WAY too easy...

Nah, you're too easy to spot, TBR. When a question comes in from a
newbie, we just wait 24 hours. If you have mocked and insulted them
within this time, the question was genuine. If you haven't replied, then
it was just one of your sock puppets. See? Easy.

Ooooo, she's good! Can we keep her? Can we keep her?

"Midnight Moocher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been running about 1.7 miles a couple of days a week for about a

month.

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I know this is nothing compared to what some of you run but I'm just

getting into it

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and I don't have very good trainers yet (leave me with blisters).

I complete the run in about 10 minutes, and can now run the distance

without being left very

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short of breath. My muscles are no longer sore just after the run as they

were when I started out.

Quoted message said:

My heart rate comes back down to normal very quickly after I've finished

the run,

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One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite a

long period after the

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run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that

can't be helped?

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That is pretty fast for a beginner. 5:54 pace.

I would recommend slowing down and running longer. ACSM recommends 20 to 60
min of exercise 3 to 5 days per week (HR between 60 and 85% of max)

Also, get some shoes.

If you really want to develop fitness, try running longer at a slower pace.

Thanks for replies.

The trainers I have currently are old Reeboks that used to be very comfy but are now a little on the tattered side.
Good running shoes are a little expensive. I'd rather save and get a good pair than some cheap uncomfortable pair.
I'll be getting a pair soon.

I guess I'm setting the pace to quickly, resulting in the red face afterwards. Still, like I said
my breathing is back to normal pretty soon, and yet I look like a beetroot for 30-40mins lol.

In reply to Phil, my father always said I should be an athlete (you know what dad's are like - they think you are
capable of anything :-))
I never did get into it though. I am only 21 though so I guess there is still time.

I'm pretty sure that the distance is between 1.6-1.7 miles, all on the flat. The time is between 10-12mins but I'd
have to use stopwatch to be sure.

"Midnight Moocher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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I've been running about 1.7 miles a couple of days a week for about a month.

I know this is nothing compared to what some of you run but I'm just getting into it
and I don't have very good trainers yet (leave me with blisters).

I complete the run in about 10 minutes, and can now run the distance without being left very
short of breath. My muscles are no longer sore just after the run as they were when I started out.
My heart rate comes back down to normal very quickly after I've finished the run,
One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite a long period after the
run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that can't be helped?

[email hidden] (TheBillRodgerz) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite a long
period after the
run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that
can't be helped?

Stop changing in the womans locker room, and you won't feel like everyone's
staring at you.

And buy a new watch.

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"Midnight Moocher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been running about 1.7 miles a couple of days a week for about a

month.

Quoted message said:

I know this is nothing compared to what some of you run but I'm just

getting into it

Quoted message said:

and I don't have very good trainers yet (leave me with blisters).

I complete the run in about 10 minutes, and can now run the distance

without being left very

Quoted message said:

short of breath. My muscles are no longer sore just after the run as they

were when I started out.

Quoted message said:

My heart rate comes back down to normal very quickly after I've finished

the run,

Quoted message said:

One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite a

long period after the

Quoted message said:

run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that

can't be helped?

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That is pretty fast for a beginner. 5:54 pace.

I would recommend slowing down and running longer.

I DISAGREE. For all you know, he could be the next Prefontaine. You
are not doing the future American Olympic team any favor by
discouraging young talent when it's only blooming. You are unpatriotic
and jealous coz you can only dream of such times.

A better advice would be to keep running his usual runs at his usual
pace, but to also add a few longer runs. He's only 21, he can do it.

MWL

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ACSM recommends 20 to 60

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min of exercise 3 to 5 days per week (HR between 60 and 85% of max)

Also, get some shoes.

If you really want to develop fitness, try running longer at a slower pace.

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I DISAGREE.

Sam's an idiot, but in this case he's right.

"Midnight Moocher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Thanks for replies.

The trainers I have currently are old Reeboks that used to be very comfy but are now a little on the tattered side.
Good running shoes are a little expensive. I'd rather save and get a good pair than some cheap uncomfortable pair.
I'll be getting a pair soon.

I guess I'm setting the pace to quickly, resulting in the red face afterwards. Still, like I said
my breathing is back to normal pretty soon, and yet I look like a beetroot for 30-40mins lol.

In reply to Phil, my father always said I should be an athlete (you know what dad's are like - they think you are
capable of anything :-))
I never did get into it though. I am only 21 though so I guess there is still time.

I'm pretty sure that the distance is between 1.6-1.7 miles, all on the flat. The time is between 10-12mins but I'd
have to use stopwatch to be sure.

"Midnight Moocher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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I've been running about 1.7 miles a couple of days a week for about a month.

I know this is nothing compared to what some of you run but I'm just getting into it
and I don't have very good trainers yet (leave me with blisters).

I complete the run in about 10 minutes, and can now run the distance without being left very
short of breath. My muscles are no longer sore just after the run as they were when I started out.
My heart rate comes back down to normal very quickly after I've finished the run,
One thing bothers me though. I'm left REALLY red in the face for quite a long period after the
run..

Is it that I haven't completely adjusted yet or is it just something that can't be helped?

So now it's 1.6 miles and perhaps 12" and 7:30 per mile. When you deal
with measuring short distances like this accuracy is important. It's
easy to fool yourself into thinking you are doing something.

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So now it's 1.6 miles and perhaps 12" and 7:30 per mile. When you deal
with measuring short distances like this accuracy is important. It's
easy to fool yourself into thinking you are doing something.

I'm not trying to fool myself with anything. If nothing had been said, I wouldn't
have realized I was setting a high pace (if that is the case).
I'm no pro. I'm a newbie trying to give the legs and heart a workout once in a while.
I can't be sure that the time and distance are accurate. They are estimates but roughly right.

But for people to speculate that I might be good at this makes me want to find out
exactly what I can do.

MWL said:

I DISAGREE. For all you know, he could be the next Prefontaine. You
are not doing the future American Olympic team any favor by
discouraging young talent when it's only blooming. You are unpatriotic
and jealous coz you can only dream of such times.

Uh, yeah, whatever. Sam is a graduate-level educated exercise physiologist who
has run 10k in 35.xx. In case you can't work it out, that means he not only
ran at a 5:48 or faster on a certified course, as opposed to the other guy
who ran somewhere between a 5:54 and a 7:30 for less than 2 miles.

You on the other hand are just a dumbass.

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A better advice would

not be forthcoming from you.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Midnight Moocher said:

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So now it's 1.6 miles and perhaps 12" and 7:30 per mile. When you deal
with measuring short distances like this accuracy is important. It's
easy to fool yourself into thinking you are doing something.

I'm not trying to fool myself with anything. If nothing had been said, I
wouldn't have realized I was setting a high pace (if that is the case). I'm
no pro. I'm a newbie trying to give the legs and heart a workout once in a
while. I can't be sure that the time and distance are accurate. They are
estimates but roughly right.

But for people to speculate that I might be good at this makes me want to
find out exactly what I can do.

If you want to take the guess work out of the equation, enter yourself in a 5k
road race on a USATF certified course.

For now, just run frequently, and that will make you faster. As Sam pointed
out, 10 minutes is too short for a training run. Better to do 20-30 minutes at
an easier pace. Try running at a pace where you can comfortably maintain
a breathing rate of one breath every 6 steps.

If you want to really test yourself, it's best to do so by entering a race.
5k races are good for this -- the distance is short enough that you can race
it fairly frequently (twice a month or so)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Try running at a pace where you can comfortably maintain
a breathing rate of one breath every 6 steps.

This is ridiculous, I can't do this now after running 9 miles a day for years.

Because we're a fat slob - you and I.

bill

On 06 Aug 2004 13:09:58 GMT, [email hidden] (TheBillRodgerz)

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Try running at a pace where you can comfortably maintain
a breathing rate of one breath every 6 steps.

This is ridiculous, I can't do this now after running 9 miles a day for years.