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  1. The problem is my front deraileur makes a slight clattering
    noise in the biggest ring, -and- my rear deraileur won't go
    into the smallest ring. I have the twist handlebar shifters
    and if I turn it -past- the "3" and hold it there the
    clattering stops.

    I've looked at Sheldon Brown's site and pondering adjusting
    my deraileur, but I'm still having trouble.

    I've located the adjustment screws (duh), but I'm unsure of
    which way to turn them.

    Is there a clear/clearer procedure for doing this so I don't
    mess up the bike, or should I take it into the LBS and watch
    them adjust it?

    Seems like it should be easy, but I'm worried I'll mess it
    up more, especially since Sheldon's site talks about
    multiple adjustments and adjusting the cable length also.

    Sorry for the dumb question. ;->

    -B

  2. Badger_South <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a clear/clearer procedure for doing this so I
    don't mess up the bike, or should I take it into the LBS
    and watch them adjust it?

    Try parktool.comparktool.com or bike.shimano.combike.shimano.com If
    you still can't figure it out, take it to your shop. Random
    fiddling will just make it worse.

  3. naaahhh fiddle away it's the best way to learn!!!

    Quoted message said:

    Try parktool.comparktool.com or bike.shimano.combike.shimano.com
    If you still can't figure it out, take it to your shop.
    Random fiddling


    will

    Quoted message said:

    just make it worse.

  4. Ken said:

    Badger_South <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Is there a clear/clearer procedure for doing this so I
    don't mess up the bike, or should I take it into the LBS
    and watch them adjust it?

    Try parktool.comparktool.com or bike.shimano.combike.shimano.com If
    you still can't figure it out, take it to your shop. Random
    fiddling will just make it worse.

    The trouble with 'do-it-yourself' and guessing, is that
    there's a temptation to turn it without first marking where
    it is at the start of 'tinkering', and then, it strikes you
    that maybe you can see it (the derailleur) move, so you
    screw it in and out a bunch, without counting turns, and
    learn 'no, you can't see it move'. Oops! ;-<

    This diagram at parktool says it all, though, and I'm sure I
    can get it now:

    parktool.comder hlimit.gif

    Thx! ;-)

    -B
    PS, next time I have to take the bike in for something, I'll
    get the guy to go over it. I'm usually in there once every
    six months for something.

    PP - I got the chattering to stop on the front chain. Yay,
    me. (don't ask me which way I turned it)

  5. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The problem is my front deraileur makes a slight
    clattering noise in the biggest ring, -and- my rear
    deraileur won't go into the smallest ring. I have the
    twist handlebar shifters and if I turn it -past- the "3"
    and hold it there the clattering stops.

    I've looked at Sheldon Brown's site and pondering
    adjusting my deraileur, but I'm still having trouble.

    I've located the adjustment screws (duh), but I'm unsure
    of which way to turn them.

    Is there a clear/clearer procedure for doing this so I
    don't mess up the bike, or should I take it into the LBS
    and watch them adjust it?

    Seems like it should be easy, but I'm worried I'll mess it
    up more, especially since Sheldon's site talks about
    multiple adjustments and adjusting the cable length also.

    Sorry for the dumb question. ;->

    Take a look at Barnett's Manual:

    bikeforums.netshowthread.php

    If I was you I'd save it all, and maybe even print some
    of it out.

    C.Q.C.

  6. From: [email hidden] (Badger_South)

    Quoted message said:

    The problem is my front derailer makes a slight clattering
    noise in the biggest ring, -and- my rear derailer won't go
    into the smallest ring. I have the twist handlebar shifters
    and if I turn it -past- the "3" and hold it there the
    clattering stops.

    Quoted message said:

    I've looked at Sheldon Brown's site and pondering adjusting
    my derailer, but I'm still having trouble.

    Quoted message said:

    I've located the adjustment screws (duh), but I'm unsure of
    which way to turn them. Is there a clear/clearer procedure
    for doing this so I don't mess up the bike, or should I
    take it into the LBS and watch them adjust it?

    Quoted message said:

    Seems like it should be easy, but I'm worried I'll mess it
    up more, especially since Sheldon's site talks about
    multiple adjustments and adjusting the cable length also.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry for the dumb question. ;-> -B

    Sounds like you have GripShifts, or some clone. I don't, but
    all shifters work the same way. They pull the cable a
    certain amount and the derailer moves a certain amount. ALL
    adjusting screws are right hand screws. i.e. "Righty tighty,
    Lefty loosey".

    If the chattering stops when you turn the shifter past 3 (by
    this I surmise you are now referring to the front shifter),
    then your cable is too loose. There should be an adjusting
    barrel somewhere along the length of the cable, most likely
    where it leaves the shifter. Unscrewing this barrel will
    tighten the cable.

    Put the bike in the big ring and unscrew the barrel until
    the chattering stops (you should be in the smallest cog when
    you do this).

    As for the smallest rear cog, when you shift into it (or
    try to), is the cable leading to the rear derailer slack?
    If so, the high gear limit screw on the derailler is too
    tight (they should be marked H and L, you may need a
    magnifying glass and bright light to see them). loosen the
    one marked H.

    However, if the cable is still taut when you try to shift
    into the smallest gear, then your cable is too tight. Look
    at the rear of the derailer where the cable enters it.
    There, too, will be an adjusting barrel. If possible, screw
    it in (righty tighty) until the chain will shift into the
    small cog.

    BTW, assuming they're valid, the only DUMB questions are the
    ones you don't ask. Have fun! :-3)

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear
    for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner geocities.comczcorner

  7. On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:27:31 -0400, [email hidden] (Chris Zacho

    The Wheelman') said:

    Sounds like you have GripShifts, or some clone. I don't,
    but all shifters work the same way. They pull the cable a
    certain amount and the derailer moves a certain amount. ALL
    adjusting screws are right hand screws. i.e. "Righty
    tighty, Lefty loosey".

    If the chattering stops when you turn the shifter past 3
    (by this I surmise you are now referring to the front
    shifter), then your cable is too loose. There should be an
    adjusting barrel somewhere along the length of the cable,
    most likely where it leaves the shifter. Unscrewing this
    barrel will tighten the cable.

    Thanks, Chris. Good advice.

    -B

  8. DDB said:

    naaahhh fiddle away it's the best way to learn!!!

    Quoted message said:

    Try parktool.comparktool.com or bike.shimano.combike.shimano.com
    If you still can't figure it out, take it to your shop.
    Random fiddling

    will

    Quoted message said:

    just make it worse.

    DDB is correct, it is unlikely you break anything, and since
    it is not working correctly now, you cannot make it much
    worse. IMO the best way to learn is make the mistakes first.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

  9. Craig Brossman <[email hidden]> wrote in news:C2Ufc.1584$FB1.1474
    @fe25.usenetserver.com:

    Quoted message said:

    DDB is correct, it is unlikely you break anything, and
    since it is not working correctly now, you cannot make it
    much worse. IMO the best way to learn is make the
    mistakes first.

    You can make it worse by adjusting your derailleurs so
    poorly that your chain falls under your crankset or into
    your spokes. IMHO, the best way to learn is to read a good
    manual and understand what you are doing.

  10. On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 21:09:35 -0400, [email hidden] (Chris Zacho

    The Wheelman') said:

    From: [email hidden] (Badger_South)

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks, Chris. Good advice.

    Quoted message said:

    -B

    You're welcome. Did it fix the problem(s)?

    Almost. At least now, I'm tweaking in the right direction.
    Didn't realize the "H" and "L" were actually marked on the
    derailleur. Had the wrong one screwed out. So I put that one
    back in and am turning out CCW 1/2 turn each time I ride.

    -B

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