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"Nina" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
have been hungry all the time, and so on.

Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and doesn't
work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?

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It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less enthused,
but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing to eat what I
put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
sneak him into this, which is easier than one might think. :-)

I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't easy! She's
quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all that. I'm worried
about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get that through to a fifteen
year old girl!

Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of the
healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I didn't want it
to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing. Now that I've been
eating better and losing weight for a while I am getting to the point where
I have some ground to stand on.

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

em said:

"Nina" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
have been hungry all the time, and so on.

Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and doesn't
work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?

Well, I mean "high quality" in the sense of whole foods, tons of
vegetables and not a lot of sugar/processed [censored]/etc. But hunger has
been a consistent problem, and it's not like we've been eating little
tiny portions or something.

I don't test, so I haven't noticed a measurable difference in
anything, but I have been a LOT less hungry and a LOT less tired, and
that says a lot to me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less enthused,
but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing to eat what I
put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
sneak him into this, which is easier than one might think. :-)

I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't easy! She's
quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all that. I'm worried
about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get that through to a fifteen
year old girl!

Very. No idea of mortality. I think that the best you can do is
provide information that hopefully will be a framework for when she's
older.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of the
healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I didn't want it
to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing. Now that I've been
eating better and losing weight for a while I am getting to the point where
I have some ground to stand on.

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Ha! You are expecting far too much. I have a 13 year old son, and,
well, just forget it.

It is really hard, though, to drag someone reluctantly into any sort
of eating plan, even if they feel good on it, etc. We've actually
been going around on this all morning... I mean, what exactly is the
difference between, say, a lean hamburger (no bun) and a slice of
cheese, and a Subway sandwich with steak and cheese and lots of
vegetables? He claims that the first thing is "too rich" and the
second thing is just fine. Sigh.

"Nina" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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em said:

"Nina" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
have been hungry all the time, and so on.

Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and doesn't
work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?

Well, I mean "high quality" in the sense of whole foods, tons of
vegetables and not a lot of sugar/processed [censored]/etc. But hunger has
been a consistent problem, and it's not like we've been eating little
tiny portions or something.

I don't test, so I haven't noticed a measurable difference in
anything, but I have been a LOT less hungry and a LOT less tired, and
that says a lot to me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less enthused,
but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing to eat what I
put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier, I'm trying to
sneak him into this, which is easier than one might think. :-)

I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't easy!
She's
quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all that. I'm worried
about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get that through to a
fifteen
year old girl!

Very. No idea of mortality. I think that the best you can do is
provide information that hopefully will be a framework for when she's
older.

Quoted message said:

Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of the
healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I didn't want
it
to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing. Now that I've been
eating better and losing weight for a while I am getting to the point
where
I have some ground to stand on.

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Ha! You are expecting far too much. I have a 13 year old son, and,
well, just forget it.

It is really hard, though, to drag someone reluctantly into any sort
of eating plan, even if they feel good on it, etc. We've actually
been going around on this all morning... I mean, what exactly is the
difference between, say, a lean hamburger (no bun) and a slice of
cheese, and a Subway sandwich with steak and cheese and lots of
vegetables? He claims that the first thing is "too rich" and the
second thing is just fine. Sigh.

The problem is the bread: I would imagine it is made out of higly processed
grains, its full of carbs (sugar), eating it will make you fat, and thirty
minutes after you're done eating you're hungry again.

You really can't change a person. Maybe after he see's your success, he'll
want to hop on the boat.

I heard a religous quote somewhere, can't remember exactly what it was.
Something about a religous person worries more about his own observance and
what is in the stomachs of others as opposed to vice-versa.

em said:

"Nina" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Which is all pretty frustrating since we have been eating a very high
quality diet... all whole grains and foods, mostly, little processed
stuff of any kind, and proportions pretty much by the book. But we
have been hungry all the time, and so on.

Doesn't sound like a high quality diet if it leaves you hungry and
doesn't work! Have you noticed much difference in your bg yet?

Quoted message said:

It's quite obvious to me that it's just NOT working, and that's my
primary motivation to give low carb a real shot... he's less
enthused, but as long as he's not hungry, he's pretty much willing
to eat what I put in front of him... so, well, as I said earlier,
I'm trying to sneak him into this, which is easier than one might
think. :-)

I'm trying to get my daughter to cut down on her carbs. It ain't
easy! She's quite athletic now, very fit, into team sports and all
that. I'm worried about where she'll be in twenty years. Hard to get
that through to a fifteen year old girl!

Anyway, I'm buying a lot less of the crappy food for her and more of
the healthy stuff. Slowly. I don't want her to catch on. Also, I
didn't want it to be a "do as I say and not as I do" kind of thing.
Now that I've been eating better and losing weight for a while I am
getting to the point where I have some ground to stand on.

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Now that could be a *real* battle🙂

em said:

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Not only could I not get mine to clean her room, but couldn't get her to
stop trashing the rest of the house.

She's 24 now and keeps her place immaculate. Why the hell didn't *that*
habit start a decade earlier?

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

Aaron Baugher said:

Funny how that works, isn't it? I hate to think how many words I've
written here and other places as responses, but when I sit in front of a
blank page or web site, my mind just locks up. Writing an actual book
seems like an impossible task. Just a lack of discipline on my part, I
suppose.

I just need an editor... someone to sort through over a decade of posts
and organize them, and that *would* be a book.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

Nina said:

Me too... but the thing about apples, etc., is that they're what I'd
call "grab fruits"... there they are in a bowl, you just have one.
You don't have to take out the seeds, cube the melon, whatever. So
it's just easier. But, on the other hand, if he's less hungry he eats
less of all of these sorts of things.

Melon doesn't get eaten here unless it's already cut up so I cut it up
before I put it away, soon as I get home from the grocery.

Same with carrots, hubby loves raw carrots, but wants them peeled. If
they're in the fridge whole, he won't touch them.

Frankly, even my own laziness kicks in like that; I'm *much* more likely
to have salad for lunch if it's already made.

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:36:47 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email hidden]>

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em said:

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Not only could I not get mine to clean her room, but couldn't get her to
stop trashing the rest of the house.

She's 24 now and keeps her place immaculate. Why the hell didn't *that*
habit start a decade earlier?

Just be happy it started when it did -- my brother was a slob as a
teenager and a slob as an adult. And married a slob. We don't eat at
their house. ;-)

--
BlueBrooke
254/225/135

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:42:53 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Nina said:

Me too... but the thing about apples, etc., is that they're what I'd
call "grab fruits"... there they are in a bowl, you just have one.
You don't have to take out the seeds, cube the melon, whatever. So
it's just easier. But, on the other hand, if he's less hungry he eats
less of all of these sorts of things.

Melon doesn't get eaten here unless it's already cut up so I cut it up
before I put it away, soon as I get home from the grocery.

Same with carrots, hubby loves raw carrots, but wants them peeled. If
they're in the fridge whole, he won't touch them.

Frankly, even my own laziness kicks in like that; I'm *much* more likely
to have salad for lunch if it's already made.

I'm ok with stuff like making salad... over the last year, I've cooked
so much that I think I'd make a decent sous chef somewhere. I'm FAST
with cutting things up and so forth. But stuff like melons and so
forth... you're absolutely right; they don't get eaten at all unless
as soon as I bring them home, I cut them up and refrigerate them.

Those "baby" carrots you can get are nice because they're already
prepped, but they're not as good as just peeling and cutting up your
own.

"Nina" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:42:53 -0500, Jackie Patti <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Nina said:

Me too... but the thing about apples, etc., is that they're what I'd
call "grab fruits"... there they are in a bowl, you just have one.
You don't have to take out the seeds, cube the melon, whatever. So
it's just easier. But, on the other hand, if he's less hungry he eats
less of all of these sorts of things.

Melon doesn't get eaten here unless it's already cut up so I cut it up
before I put it away, soon as I get home from the grocery.

Same with carrots, hubby loves raw carrots, but wants them peeled. If
they're in the fridge whole, he won't touch them.

Frankly, even my own laziness kicks in like that; I'm *much* more likely
to have salad for lunch if it's already made.

I'm ok with stuff like making salad... over the last year, I've cooked
so much that I think I'd make a decent sous chef somewhere. I'm FAST
with cutting things up and so forth. But stuff like melons and so
forth... you're absolutely right; they don't get eaten at all unless
as soon as I bring them home, I cut them up and refrigerate them.

I buy the ones that are already cut up. They're more expensive, but its
better than watching mellons rot in the fridge :-(

Quoted message said:

Those "baby" carrots you can get are nice because they're already
prepped, but they're not as good as just peeling and cutting up your
own.

I don't peel carots, I just eat them unpealed, including the end.

Jackie Patti said:

em said:

Now, if I could just get her to clean her room.

Not only could I not get mine to clean her room, but couldn't get her
to stop trashing the rest of the house.

She's 24 now and keeps her place immaculate. Why the hell didn't
*that* habit start a decade earlier?

LOL that sounds very familiar🙂

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Plenty of wild rice recipes that you can cook ahead of time and then just reheat and blend in with other ingredients when on the road or camping.

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