Newbie

Based on what I'm learning, the best way to keep the weight off is not to go on a diet in the first
place. Because what's finally sinking into my thick head is just as you've experienced: when I go
off the diet, I regain the weight. Instead, I'm learning and practicing a new way of eating that I
will follow for the rest of my life. After I reach my weight loss goal, I simply can't revert to my
previous patterns of eating or I will end up back at my previous weight.

1 cup of non fat milk = 2 pts. 12 fl oz (1 can) of Miller Lite Beer = 2 pts
--
Prairie Roots
232/167/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:35:43 -0600, "Cephus" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

My wife and I are giving Weight Watchers a try. We have been married for 10
years and have tried Suzanne Somers, Calorie Counting, Fat Counting, Dr.
Phil, Sugar Busters and Adkins! They all worked to lose 10-20 pounds.
Unfortunately, the weight came right back on when we got off the diet. I am
5' 11" 255 lbs and miserable. I hope that I can learn a lifestyle with
weight watchers and get off this extra 50 pounds and keep it off. I am
curious about the points of a few items. Skim Milk and lite beer?
Wish us luck.

Ahhhh, sounds to me like you have fallen into the *diet* trap ... using each attempt as a temporary
solution. That's the problems with *diets* - we have the false belief that once the weight is gone
we can quit and go back to *normal* eating. Trust me, doesn't work ... seems you've proved this a
few times too. <G>

In this group you won't hear the diet word spoken very often. We prefer to think of this as a *new
way of eating* and a *new way of life*. WW also teaches the same beliefs. We can never be successful
if we aren't willing to do for the rest of our lives, the changes we make now ... make it a total
lifestyle. WW will teach you about portion sizes, as well as making healthier food choices. You will
have to change that mindset though - this is not something you can *come off of* when you reach your
goal. I have no doubts that you can learn a new lifestyle. Stick around here, post often. Maybe join
a challenge or two - they really did help to keep me focused and on track. This is a great support
group, filled with a tremendous amount of free knowledge - as well as a gentle kick in the backside
on occassion. <g>

Points for 1 glass of skim milk, or 12 ounces of lite beer ... are both 2.

Good luck on your new journey, and I hope to see you posting!

Joyce
228.8 (2/5/02)/130.8/150 ---> 2/21/03 - total lost 98 lbs. LIFETIME: 4/4/03

Cephus said:

My wife and I are giving Weight Watchers a try. We have been married for 10 years and have tried
Suzanne Somers, Calorie Counting, Fat Counting, Dr. Phil, Sugar Busters and Adkins! They all worked
to lose 10-20 pounds. Unfortunately, the weight came right back on when we got off the diet. I am
5' 11" 255 lbs and miserable. I hope that I can learn a lifestyle with weight watchers and get off
this extra 50 pounds and keep it off. I am curious about the points of a few items. Skim Milk and
lite beer? Wish us luck.

good luck, and welcome, Lee
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Quoted message said:

My wife and I are giving Weight Watchers a try. We have been married for

10

Quoted message said:

years and have tried Suzanne Somers, Calorie Counting, Fat Counting, Dr. Phil, Sugar Busters and
Adkins! They all worked to lose 10-20 pounds. Unfortunately, the weight came right back on when we
got off the diet. I

am

Quoted message said:

5' 11" 255 lbs and miserable. I hope that I can learn a lifestyle with weight watchers and get off
this extra 50 pounds and keep it off. I am curious about the points of a few items. Skim Milk and
lite beer? Wish us luck.

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:35:43 -0600, "Cephus" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

My wife and I are giving Weight Watchers a try.

Hi, welcome to the group. Best of luck with WW, it really is a great program.
--
Erin in NZ
125/90/75 kgs
125.90/1.1/165 lbs

RafL goal 180.6lbs (82 kilos)

"It is not the mountain we conquer, it is ourselves" Sir Edmund Hilary

Hi Cephus, and good luck to you and your wife! Here's the welcome notice for you!

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
(Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

HHH - Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comhhh.htmOpen ↗

NYNY - New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: angelfire.comnyny.htmOpen ↗

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comrafl.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based
on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on
a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches
150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of
fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
xmission.compoints.exeOpen ↗

WW suggests your ideal weight should be somewhere between 116 and 145 depending on your age.

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide
them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be
used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are
just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience
as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--

~Kristin O~
272/242.6/172

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

"Cephus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

My wife and I are giving Weight Watchers a try. We have been married for

10

Quoted message said:

years and have tried Suzanne Somers, Calorie Counting, Fat Counting, Dr. Phil, Sugar Busters and
Adkins! They all worked to lose 10-20 pounds. Unfortunately, the weight came right back on when we
got off the diet. I

am

Quoted message said:

5' 11" 255 lbs and miserable. I hope that I can learn a lifestyle with weight watchers and get off
this extra 50 pounds and keep it off. I am curious about the points of a few items. Skim Milk and
lite beer? Wish us luck.

Welcome, and good luck to both of you!
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/100.2/minigoal 99.9 Goal 68 Kg
134.1/100.3/minigoal 220.3/Goal 150 pounds NYNY 227.3/220.9/214

"Cephus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

My wife and I are giving Weight Watchers a try. We have been married for

10

Quoted message said:

years and have tried Suzanne Somers, Calorie Counting, Fat Counting, Dr. Phil, Sugar Busters and
Adkins! They all worked to lose 10-20 pounds. Unfortunately, the weight came right back on when we
got off the diet. I

am

Quoted message said:

5' 11" 255 lbs and miserable. I hope that I can learn a lifestyle with weight watchers and get off
this extra 50 pounds and keep it off. I am curious about the points of a few items. Skim Milk and
lite beer? Wish us luck.