new year dinner

Marlene Blanshay <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

sigh... tell me I'm not the only jewish person who regrets not
being
able to go for a bike ride on a warm, summery day because of a family
dinner.

We're pretty secular anyways... it's more a family dinner thing than
relgious. But it's 26 degrees outside and how many more days are we
going to get like this? Waaaaaaa...oh well.. happy new year anyways. I
wish it was raining!

Take off work early! Riding is better than work, but family is better than
riding.

L'shana tovah tikatayvu

--ag

andy gee said:

Marlene Blanshay <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

sigh... tell me I'm not the only jewish person who regrets not
being
able to go for a bike ride on a warm, summery day because of a family
dinner.

We're pretty secular anyways... it's more a family dinner thing than
relgious. But it's 26 degrees outside and how many more days are we
going to get like this? Waaaaaaa...oh well.. happy new year anyways. I
wish it was raining!

Take off work early! Riding is better than work, but family is better than
riding.

L'shana tovah tikatayvu

--ag

It's okay... i went both days this weekend and tomorrow is supposed to
be just as nice. I get to work off tonights huge dinner and chocolate
cake....

I'm sure there are plenty of cyclists around here grumbling for the same
reason, and others grumbling because their riding buddies are around.

Well, that's what xmas is often like- everyone's with their families and
there's nothing on tv. Mind you, until recently i had to have xmas
dinner with inlaws....thank god I don't have to do that anymore. Give me
my dvd's and chazzerai any day.

Marlene Blanshay said:

sigh... tell me I'm not the only jewish person who regrets not being
able to go for a bike ride on a warm, summery day because of a family
dinner.

We're pretty secular anyways... it's more a family dinner thing than
relgious. But it's 26 degrees outside and how many more days are we
going to get like this? Waaaaaaa...oh well.. happy new year anyways. I
wish it was raining!

I'm not religious at all. I got myself a migraine, took the meds, and
the doctor advises taking it easy for awhile after I do that (the meds
can have some nasty cardiovascular side effects).

On the up-side, my almost-new Kurt Kinetic fluid trainer came in from a
nice fellow in Michigan, so I'm set to keep the goo away from my middle
through the winter.

Maybe next winter I'll be able to afford a good hub dynamo and lights.
No can do this year. Little boy needs braces.

--
Chris BeHanna
'03 Specialized Allez Elite 27
'04 Specialized Hardrock Pro Disc

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"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

sigh... tell me I'm not the only jewish person who regrets not being able
to go for a bike ride on a warm, summery day because of a family dinner.

We're pretty secular anyways... it's more a family dinner thing than
relgious. But it's 26 degrees outside and how many more days are we going
to get like this? Waaaaaaa...oh well.. happy new year anyways. I wish it
was raining!

Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New Years?

Just another confusing day in my life.

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote: Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New
Years? (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why, when do you think it should be, IN JANUARY?

Quoted message said:

Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New Years?

Just another confusing day in my life.

I was wondering why my stockbroker was out of the office today. NOW
THE PUZZLE IS SOLVED. And I did not even wish him a Happy New Year.
Why is it New Year in October? I need to google this.

Maggie

Thomas Wentworth said:

Quoted message said:

Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New Years?

"October" means "January" in Hebrew.

Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:00:08 GMT, <YNw0f.3$ar6.0@trndny01>,

Thomas Wentworth said:

Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New Years?

They use a lunisolar calendar that is synchronised both to the motion
of the Moon and to the apparent motion of the Sun. The Chinese and
Hebrew lunisolar calendars track the tropical year. The Buddhist and
Hindu lunisolar calendars track the sidereal year.
The Hebrew calendar is the official calendar of Israel's government
and is used to mark religious holidays. The Gregorian calendar is more
widely used in Israel's business and day-to-day affairs.

My favourite is the more accurate Persian calendar; a solar calendar.
Compared with the Gregorian calendar, which errors by one day, every
3,226 years, the Persian calendar needs a one-day correction every
141,000 years. Persian New Year falls exactly on the Vernal Equinox
that is precisely determined each year by astronomical observations.
I think that's a better time to celebrate a new year, at least in
northern latitudes.
--
zk

Zoot Katz said:

Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:00:08 GMT, <YNw0f.3$ar6.0@trndny01>,

Thomas Wentworth said:

Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New Years?

They use a lunisolar calendar that is synchronised both to the motion
of the Moon and to the apparent motion of the Sun. The Chinese and
Hebrew lunisolar calendars track the tropical year. The Buddhist and
Hindu lunisolar calendars track the sidereal year.
The Hebrew calendar is the official calendar of Israel's government
and is used to mark religious holidays. The Gregorian calendar is more
widely used in Israel's business and day-to-day affairs.

My favourite is the more accurate Persian calendar; a solar calendar.
Compared with the Gregorian calendar, which errors by one day, every
3,226 years, the Persian calendar needs a one-day correction every
141,000 years. Persian New Year falls exactly on the Vernal Equinox
that is precisely determined each year by astronomical observations.
I think that's a better time to celebrate a new year, at least in
northern latitudes.

Just in case anyone's interested, this is also the beginning of
Ramadan...it's also on a lunar calender (new moon).

I'm not given to ethnocentricity, but I thought that everyone knew about
jewish holidays... considering how the bible is so often used as a
source of information. All the stories of the holidays are in there...
not to mention charlton heston movies.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Marlene Blanshay said:

I'm not given to ethnocentricity, but I thought that everyone knew about
jewish holidays... considering how the bible is so often used as a
source of information. All the stories of the holidays are in there...
not to mention charlton heston movies.

They're right in the middle of the boring technical parts without any
nice stories, so Passover is about the only one most non-Jewish people
know anything about (because the first one of those is one of the nice
stories). Purim might make it in as "knows something about its origins"
for the same reason, but probably wouldn't be recognized if you gave a
name or description.
Also, there's no information about how the Jewish calendar lines up with
the Gregorian one.

I had to know them for my Old Testament survey course when I did a year
of Bible College, and now I'd have to look them up to do anything more
than recognize some of the names (English names, even, not Jewish ones),
so it's far from unreasonable to generalize to "Most people don't know
anything about it".

dave

--
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[A] colleague who shall remain nameless always claimed (in jest, I think) that
the University motto should be: "Waterloo - Not as bad as it sounds"
--Alex Lopez-Ortiz in uw.general

Dave Vandervies said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Marlene Blanshay said:

I'm not given to ethnocentricity, but I thought that everyone knew about
jewish holidays... considering how the bible is so often used as a
source of information. All the stories of the holidays are in there...
not to mention charlton heston movies.

They're right in the middle of the boring technical parts without any
nice stories, so Passover is about the only one most non-Jewish people
know anything about (because the first one of those is one of the nice
stories). Purim might make it in as "knows something about its origins"
for the same reason, but probably wouldn't be recognized if you gave a
name or description.
Also, there's no information about how the Jewish calendar lines up with
the Gregorian one.

I had to know them for my Old Testament survey course when I did a year
of Bible College, and now I'd have to look them up to do anything more
than recognize some of the names (English names, even, not Jewish ones),
so it's far from unreasonable to generalize to "Most people don't know
anything about it".

Actually, i think Chanuka is one that everyone knows about, mainly
because it falls not too far from Xmas, in the holiday time of year. Of
course, on tv shows, chanuka always happens at the same time as
Christmas, which of course, it doesn't. Like all the other holidays,
it's on a lunar calendar, and so it can happen from late november until
late december. I was actually born during chanukah (in late november
that year). When the two fall at the same time, a lot of people call it
Chrismaka. A couple of years ago, i made potato pancakes on the day
after Christmas (Boxing day as it's called here) because it was still
chanukah.

I'm not sure, but i think it falls fairly late this year... i know for
sure it's not near my birthday.

Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:46:36 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Marlene Blanshay

Quoted message said:

A couple of years ago, i made potato pancakes on the day
after Christmas (Boxing day as it's called here) because it was still
chanukah.

I'm not sure, but i think it falls fairly late this year... i know for
sure it's not near my birthday.

This year Chanukah starts on Boxing Day.
Sukkot is the holiday that always made me wish I was Jewish.
It looks like the most fun.
--
zk

Zoot Katz said:

Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:46:36 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Marlene Blanshay

Quoted message said:

A couple of years ago, i made potato pancakes on the day
after Christmas (Boxing day as it's called here) because it was still
chanukah.

I'm not sure, but i think it falls fairly late this year... i know for
sure it's not near my birthday.

This year Chanukah starts on Boxing Day.
Sukkot is the holiday that always made me wish I was Jewish.
It looks like the most fun.

it's basically like thanksgiving.. the thing is every culture and
religion has something like thanksgiving, to celebrate the harvest.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Marlene Blanshay said:

it's basically like thanksgiving.. the thing is every culture and
religion has something like thanksgiving, to celebrate the harvest.

I was hoping to get up to the BC interior last month,
to treat my brother & sister in law (and myself) to a
good, ol', country style Harvest Moon. But life got
in the way. Maybe next year.

cheers,
Tom

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Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:15:30 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Marlene Blanshay

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sukkot is the holiday that always made me wish I was Jewish.
It looks like the most fun.

it's basically like thanksgiving.. the thing is every culture and
religion has something like thanksgiving, to celebrate the harvest.

Well, maybe if thanksgiving was a week long picnic in a neat little
hut it would be lots more fun!

I celebrate Halloween for the goddess. and those who've already made
the journey, with a flaming fire bike performance that deconstructs
car centric ethos among the impressionable at the Public Dreams
Society, annual Parade of Lost Souls, on the 29th.
--
zk

Thomas Wentworth said:

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

sigh... tell me I'm not the only jewish person who regrets not being able
to go for a bike ride on a warm, summery day because of a family dinner.

We're pretty secular anyways... it's more a family dinner thing than
relgious. But it's 26 degrees outside and how many more days are we going
to get like this? Waaaaaaa...oh well.. happy new year anyways. I wish it
was raining!

Jewish New Years? In October? Why is this New Years?

Just another confusing day in my life.

They use a different Calendar, the Hebrew calendar has only 360 days,
and every so many years they add a leap month, which brings the calendar
back on track. Which is why it's confusing to most non-Jews, because
the dates seem to bounce around, in relation to the civil calendar.

Here is how it works, Oct 3, 2005 was Elul 29, 5765 on the Hebrew
Calendar, Oct 4, 2005 was Tishri 1, 5766 meaning it's a new year. So
belated happy Rosh Hashannah to anyone here that is Jewish.

W

"Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:46:36 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Marlene Blanshay
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Sukkot is the holiday that always made me wish I was Jewish.
It looks like the most fun.

It *is* the most fun. The shaking of the lulav is such ancient, sympathetic
magic -- you can imagine it done thousands of years before anyone ever came
up with the bible. The only problem is that Sukkot starts so late this year,
camping out in the sukkah is not going to be that much fun for people in
northern latitudes.

Because of the convergence that Marlene alludes to, we are doing several
activities with our Muslim brothers and sisters through the autumn holidays,
with occasional help from others. Along with a mutual break-fast on Yom
Kippur, we are having an interfaith celebration (and break-fast for the
Muslims) in our community sukkah this year. I'm in charge of the
construction and decoration of our community sukkah this year, so if you're
in the Seattle area, feel free to drop by. (Last year's sukkot pics:
http://www.betalef.org/images/sukkot2004/)

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

"Marlene Blanshay" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

sigh... tell me I'm not the only jewish person who regrets not being able
to go for a bike ride on a warm, summery day because of a family dinner.

We're pretty secular anyways... it's more a family dinner thing than
relgious. But it's 26 degrees outside and how many more days are we going
to get like this? Waaaaaaa...oh well.. happy new year anyways. I wish it
was raining!

I hear you, Marlene. It was a beautiful day, here, too. It's our minhag to
do tashlich on the first day of Rosh Hashana, late in the afternoon. Usually
I go home and change into bike gear, and bike down to the lake for the
ritual. This year, I took my mom with me instead, and so I didn't do the
cycling. I really missed the exercise after sitting in shul all day.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
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Claire Petersky said:

"Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:46:36 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Marlene Blanshay
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Sukkot is the holiday that always made me wish I was Jewish.
It looks like the most fun.

It *is* the most fun. The shaking of the lulav is such ancient, sympathetic
magic -- you can imagine it done thousands of years before anyone ever came
up with the bible. The only problem is that Sukkot starts so late this year,
camping out in the sukkah is not going to be that much fun for people in
northern latitudes.

Because of the convergence that Marlene alludes to, we are doing several
activities with our Muslim brothers and sisters through the autumn holidays,
with occasional help from others. Along with a mutual break-fast on Yom
Kippur, we are having an interfaith celebration (and break-fast for the
Muslims) in our community sukkah this year. I'm in charge of the
construction and decoration of our community sukkah this year, so if you're
in the Seattle area, feel free to drop by. (Last year's sukkot pics:
http://www.betalef.org/images/sukkot2004/)

I remember kids singing 'shake shake shake... shake shake shake... shake
your lulav! Shake your lulav!"