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  1. Well, last weekend I finally ditched the clunky old lumps of steel that were
    weighing my bike down and replaced them with my lovely new (well,
    secondhand) wheels - 32-hole MA3 rims on 105 hubs, fitted with Vittoria
    Rubinos. The verdict? Well, the short version would be: Wheeeeeeeeeee!

    My first proper ride was the Sunday morning club run. We did
    a fairly undulating route and the uppish bits seemed
    significantly less of a struggle than previously. Not
    surprising really - I tried to weigh the difference between
    the old and the new wheels and it seems I've suddenly
    dropped something in the order of 2kg off the overall weight
    of my bike. I've also gone from chunky 1 1/4" touring tyres
    to 23mm high-pressure slicks - the difference in rolling
    performance is such that on smooth tarmac it feels like I'm
    gliding with the new wheels, although less-than-smooth
    surfaces suddenly seem a lot harder than before...

    The wheels may be secondhand, but they have been well looked
    after. The hubs are a dream and I reckon there's plenty of
    life left in the rims - but even if there isn't and I need
    to replace the rims soon, £35 for a pair of 105 hubs would
    still be a bargain.

    Today I was working up in the big town and decided to take
    my bike so that on the return journey I could get off the
    train a stop or two early and get a short ride in. And it
    was abso-bloody-lutely marvellous. This morning's rain had
    all disappeared and the afternoon sun had nicely dried up
    the roads, leaving a pleasantly mild evening - perfect
    cycling conditions, in fact, especially when you factor in
    the slight tailwind.

    I blasted through the 12.6 miles in a little over 38 minutes
    - an average speed of 19.6mph, which I'm sure is some kind
    of record for me. And it felt wonderful- even though I
    compensated for the lighter weight of the new wheels by
    having a backpack (containing all my day-in-the-office
    accoutrements), the difference in the way my bike feels with
    the new wheels meant that the route suddenly seemed somewhat
    flatter than before...

    Another big difference with the new wheels is the gearing.
    I've gone from having a five-speed 14-28 freewheel to an eight-
    speed 11-28 cassette, so I've now got two extra gears at the
    top end (11t and 12t) and one extra gear in the 14-28 range
    (only one, but it's enough to make a noticeable difference).
    I was a bit dubious about needing the 11t sprocket, but it's
    hard to find off-the-shelf cassettes that give a closer-
    spaced range combined with a lower top end, especially on my
    budget. And I do still appreciate having the 28t big
    sprocket (my small chainring is 42t, so my bottom gear is
    still not especially small, even by modern road bike
    standards - my calculations tell me 42*28 is the same as
    39*26). Having ridden it, I'm glad to have the 11t sprocket
    - paired with the 52t chainring, that's a pretty big top
    gear I've got now (and a huge increase on my previous top
    gear), so I've only used it a couple of times, on the odd
    occasion when I've had a proper hill to go down, but those
    occasions have been almost obscenely good fun.

    Anyway, I am one very happy bunny. With recent upgrades to
    my brakes and now my wheels, I've breathed new life into my
    old bike (next job I'm saving up for is a respray) and
    further boosted my enthusiasm for cycling - of course it's
    not just the wheels, it's partly my rapidly improving
    fitness that's making the difference, but when your bike
    allows you to convert improved fitness into increased speed,
    rather than just sucking up your extra energy and wasting
    it, it does give you a lot of extra motivation.

    My club mentor (it's an ad hoc designation I've just come up
    with for want of better words) is talking about entering a
    local road race in September, a prospect that not so long
    ago would have scared me witless - but now it's something
    that I would relish. Roll on September!

    d.

  2. "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, last weekend I finally ditched the clunky old lumps
    of steel that were weighing my bike down and replaced them
    with my lovely new (well, secondhand) wheels - 32-hole MA3
    rims on 105 hubs, fitted with Vittoria Rubinos. The
    verdict? Well, the short version would be: Wheeeeeeeeeee!

    MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim
    so far? :-)
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  3. Mark South:

    Quoted message said:

    MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim so far? :-)

    None yet, but I've done less than 70 miles on them so far. Give them a chance...

    How far back does this problem with MA3s go? ie when did they change the design so that spokes pulling through became a problem - or have they always been like that?

    Anyway, like I said, I paid a mere £35 for the pair and the hubs are in fine condition, so if I have to get new rims some time soon I won't be too upset (as long as they don't fail on me at an awkward moment) - I'll just have an excuse to fit fancy new rims.

    d.

  4. Quoted message said:

    (next job I'm saving up for is a respray)

    once I've drank me tea I'll be off to the local powder
    coating place to pick up my Raleigh frameset, the fixed cog
    project is moving on a pace... anyway, they have done it
    for £17.50!!! Bless... not seen it yet though, so it could
    be horrid...

    bfn,

    Tony B

  5. davek said:

    Mark South:

    Quoted message said:

    MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim so
    far? :-)

    None yet, but I've done less than 70 miles on them so far.
    Give them a chance...

    How far back does this problem with MA3s go? ie when did
    they change the design so that spokes pulling through
    became a problem - or have they always been like that?

    Like a lot of things, MA3s get mixed reviews, though mostly
    good. Don't know what Mark's talking about.

    Enjoy the new wheels. I couldn't believe the difference
    between my old OEM wheelset and a brand new pair of Open
    Pro/Ultegra. Felt like the bike could just roll forever.

    When you get a fancy set, it makes you conscious of the need
    to keep your bearings correctly adjusted.

  6. "Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    davek said:

    Mark South:

    Quoted message said:

    MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim
    so far? :-)

    None yet, but I've done less than 70 miles on them so
    far. Give them a chance...

    It'll be good to hear how you get on with them.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How far back does this problem with MA3s go? ie when did
    they change the design so that spokes pulling through
    became a problem - or have they always been like that?

    There have been a lot of reports of spokes pulling through
    when the wheels are correctly tensioned. This has been
    attributed to the eyelet design in these rims, which is a
    place where mavic has saved some cost and weight.

    It's less of a problem with undertensioned wheels, but i
    that case one can expect to start breaking spokes.

    Quoted message said:

    Like a lot of things, MA3s get mixed reviews, though
    mostly good. Don't know what Mark's talking about.

    Mark's talking about hearing lots of reports of spokes
    pulling through MA3s.

    But I suspect you did know that.

    Quoted message said:

    Enjoy the new wheels. I couldn't believe the difference
    between my old OEM wheelset and a brand new pair of Open
    Pro/Ultegra. Felt like the bike could just roll forever.

    When you get a fancy set, it makes you conscious of the
    need to keep your bearings correctly adjusted.

    Amen.
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  7. Mark South said:

    Mark's talking about hearing lots of reports of spokes
    pulling through MA3s.

    But I suspect you did know that.

    No, I didn't. That's why I'd no idea what you were
    talking about.

  8. "Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mark South said:

    Mark's talking about hearing lots of reports of spokes
    pulling through MA3s.

    But I suspect you did know that.

    No, I didn't. That's why I'd no idea what you were
    talking about.

    It must have been clear from the context.

    Maybe I'm just one of those heathens....
    --
    Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

  9. "Mark South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, last weekend I finally ditched the clunky old
    lumps of steel that were weighing my bike down and
    replaced them with my lovely new (well, secondhand)
    wheels - 32-hole MA3 rims on 105 hubs, fitted with
    Vittoria Rubinos. The verdict? Well, the short version
    would be: Wheeeeeeeeeee!

    MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim so
    far? :-)

    I've had mine 18 months with no trouble whatsoever and done
    servile 2-400's on them

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