New veg bed

On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:46:52 -0000, in
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Hi

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my garden
this year. I

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I intend to grow tomatoes, courgettes and a several herbs
(rosemary, thyme, basil, parsley). I'd also like to grow
runner beans and peas, if possible. Can I plant all of
these in the same area? I don't intend to

Bear in mind that 8 speed tomatoes are incompatible with 9
speed runner beans.

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Mark said:

You might notice that I'm a complete beginner at this :~)

Yup. You've got entirely the wrong forum for a start.

But in any case, yes - just remove the plastic and the
shingle, dig the ground over (don't bother with double-
digging unless you want a bad back) and work in plenty of
compost or well-rotted manure as you dig. Soil improver
might help too - but what to use depends what type of soil
you've got and what you want to grow.

I recommend getting yourself a copy of DG Hessayon's The
Vegetable Expert.

d.

Quoted message said:

Hi

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my
garden this year. I live in a small terraced house and
my small garden faces ENE. I think alongside the left-
hand fence would be the best area; the sun shines there
for the longest.

If you are cycling, there's no time for gardening.

Cheers, helen s

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Richard Bates said:

Bear in mind that 8 speed tomatoes are incompatible with 9
speed runner beans.

And you should never fit campag broad beans on a STI
pumpkin.

d.

Mark said:

Hi I'll start the tomatoes off indoors, then grow them on
in the (small) greenhouse that I have before planting them
out finally. How does that sound?

If you're starting the tomatoes off indoors (presumably on a
trainer) don't forget to throw a towel over the stem to stop
that nasty corrosive tomato sweat from dripping onto it. If
they are going too slowly, don't worry as they've just run
out of juice and will ketchup eventually.

Also uk.rec.gardening.allotments should be on your news-
server Real Soon Now. They'll be good for stuff like this.
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david kenning said:

Mark said:

You might notice that I'm a complete beginner at this :~)

Yup. You've got entirely the wrong forum for a start.

But in any case, yes - just remove the plastic and the
shingle, dig the ground over (don't bother with double-
digging unless you want a bad back) and work in plenty of
compost or well-rotted manure as you
dig. Soil improver might help too - but what to use
depends what type of soil you've got and what you
want to grow.

I recommend getting yourself a copy of DG Hessayon's The
Vegetable Expert.

d.

I have a spare copy of this book, make me an offer. :-)

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Mark said:

Hi

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my garden
this year. I live in a small terraced house and my small
garden faces ENE. I think alongside the left-hand fence
would be the best area; the sun shines there for the
longest.

The garden is currently 'peashingled', and I don't really
know what the ground beneath is like. There are certainly
a lot of weeds in the summer! Can I just remove the
plastic and shingle, then dig the ground over before
sowing seeds? I presume I'll need to work in some compost
or other soil improvement matter. Can I use regular
organic (peat free) compost from a garden centre, or are
there materials specifically for improving soil? Can I dig
the ground now?

I intend to grow tomatoes, courgettes and a several herbs
(rosemary, thyme, basil, parsley). I'd also like to grow
runner beans and peas, if possible. Can I plant all of
these in the same area? I don't intend to grow a huge
amount of anything, just enough to make it worthwhile.

I'll start the tomatoes off indoors, then grow them on in
the (small) greenhouse that I have before planting them
out finally. How does that sound?

You might notice that I'm a complete beginner at this :~)

Thanks for any tips,

Mark

Don't tire yourself out digging if you want to go cycling
the same day.

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Mark said:

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my garden
this year. I live in a small terraced house and my small
garden faces ENE. I think

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oh, bugger. monday morning after a week of hard riding, no
coffee, [censored] news client.

sorry.

mark

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Mark said:

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my
garden this year. I live in a small terraced house and
my small garden faces ENE. I think

[snip]

oh, bugger. monday morning after a week of hard riding, no
coffee, [censored] news client.

sorry.

mark

Does anyone recommend wearing a helmet when gardening?

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Does anyone recommend wearing a helmet when gardening?

Well, knee pads would be in order

Eugenio and a 6 hours wait in Whittington Hospital A&E for a
busted knee after tripping while gardening

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MSA said:

Does anyone recommend wearing a helmet when gardening?

Full-face downhill jobs provide protection against the step-on-the-business-end-of-the-
rake gag...

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Mark said:

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my garden
this year. I live in a small terraced house and my small
garden faces ENE. I think

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oh, bugger. monday morning after a week of hard riding, no
coffee, [censored] news client.

Well, to quote one of my favourite .sigs:

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On 8/3/04 12:13 pm, in article
[email hidden], "Eugenio Mastroviti"

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MSA said:

Does anyone recommend wearing a helmet when gardening?

Well, knee pads would be in order

Eugenio and a 6 hours wait in Whittington Hospital A&E for
a busted knee after tripping while gardening

Dangerous business..

I was tempted to ask Pete to borrow his freight bike to
shift some manure for the allotment. Not sure he'd have
appreciated that though.. As it was, I had just got back
from London on the sleeper (with the bike.. curiously the
guy I shared a cabin with was a scot from carnoustie living
in Dorking adn I am an englishman from Kingston lliving in
Dundee so we swapped biking around the North Downs stories.
He was tempted to bring his bike up next time..

Back to the story, I relented and took the car and trailer
to fetch a smelly half ton of well rotted recycled oats and
hay.. (from another cyclist in the institute who has a few
horses to look after.)

..d

David Martin said:

I was tempted to ask Pete to borrow his freight bike to
shift some manure for the allotment. Not sure he'd have
appreciated that though.

As long as you remember to line the cargo bin suitably
before you start, nae bother. But half a tonne would work
better with the car, to be quite honest. The 8 has a
suggested max loading of 100 kg in the back, and getting up
Lochee Road you might fancy a shade less than that so you'd
be going back and forth a fair bit!

Pete.
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Also uk.rec.gardening.allotments should be on your news-
server Real Soon Now.

Got inside info have we...... :-)

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chris French said:

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Whingin' Pom <[email hidden]> writes

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Also uk.rec.gardening.allotments should be on your news-
server Real Soon Now.

Got inside info have we...... :-)

Sod it. My error. Thought it was the creation notice rather
than the 2nd CFV. :-(
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Mark said:

Hi

I'd like to grow a few fruit, veg, and herbs in my garden
this year. I live in a small terraced house and my small
garden faces ENE. I think alongside the left-hand fence
would be the best area; the sun shines there for the
longest.

I find Colnagos grow best in the sun (they originally come
from the Mediterranean), but Raleighs will do well in
partial shade or wet conditions.

Whatever you do, make sure that your Pinarellos are
protected from frost this week.

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I find Colnagos grow best in the sun (they originally come
from the Mediterranean), but Raleighs will do well in
partial shade or wet conditions.

Whatever you do, make sure that your Pinarellos are
protected from frost this week.

De Rosas need protection from aphids.

Cheers, helen s

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:11 +0000, MSA wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone recommend wearing a helmet when gardening?

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Well, knee pads would be in order

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Eugenio and a 6 hours wait in Whittington Hospital A&E for
a busted knee after tripping while gardening

Knee pads won't stop you twisting your knee and damaging the
collateral ligaments, cruciate ligaments or cartilages.
They'd stop you getting grazes and bruises though...

Hope your knee gets better soon.

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