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  1. Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but I
    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the right
    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?
    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.
    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling as
    a hobby, hence my purchase.
    I have cycled around the district this evening much to the amusement of the
    local children and the shame of my teenage daughter ( the bike is a luminous
    shocking pink)
    I intend to paint the bike to tone down the colour so any help on how to do
    it cheaply would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be a brilliant job as I
    foresee myself purchasing a lighter possibly new bike in the near future, if
    of course I continue.
    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....
    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming a
    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?
    TIA

  2. "Mrs X" wrote: I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain
    bike.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You have so many questions--do you have a friend or acquaintance who rides?
    Many of these things require hands-on inspection and advice. Get someone to
    ride with you and help you out.

    And, have fun!

  3. "Mrs X" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but I
    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the right
    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?
    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.
    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling


    as

    Quoted message said:

    a hobby, hence my purchase.
    I have cycled around the district this evening much to the amusement of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    local children and the shame of my teenage daughter ( the bike is a


    luminous

    Quoted message said:

    shocking pink)
    I intend to paint the bike to tone down the colour so any help on how to


    do

    Quoted message said:

    it cheaply would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be a brilliant job as


    I

    Quoted message said:

    foresee myself purchasing a lighter possibly new bike in the near future,


    if

    Quoted message said:

    of course I continue.
    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....
    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming a
    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?
    TIA

    It's gonna take a little time to get all your questions answered. Be
    patient and just enjoy while you learn.

    The shifter on the left controls the derailleur that moves the chain between
    the large and small chainrings that are up there with your pedals. Put the
    chain on the bigger chainring when you're on flatter terrain and on the
    smaller ones as the route gets hillier. These shifts of the chain up near
    your pedals make really big differences with each shift in the effort it
    takes to keep the pedals turning.

    The shifter on the right controls the chain movement on the "cassette" which
    is an assembly of cogs connected to the axle of the rear wheel. Probably
    the lower the number, the easier the pedaling which means the larger the
    gear back there. (On the back wheel, the larger the cog, the easier the
    pedaling.) Shifts of the chain along these cogs make smaller changes in the
    amount of pedaling effort required. They're kinda like fine-tuning.

    You want to avoid having to really mash hard on the pedals or grind along
    with a slow pedaling cadence. This will wear your legs out quickly and can
    do long-term damage to your knees. Ideally, you should find a pedaling
    cadence of between 80 and 100 rpms with which you're comfortable for a
    sustained period of time. Then the idea is to keep shifting your gears,
    depending on your terrain, to keep you pedaling at that comfortable cadence.
    Your speed will vary, but that's OK.

    Later you'll learn to apply power for climbing hills faster and that sort of
    thing. But for now, learn to keep shifting so you maintain a nice, steady
    rhythm on the pedals. That may involve quite a lot of shifting except on
    the flattest terrain. So be it.

    I'll leave your other questions to others. I've gotta run. Welcome back to
    cycling!

    Bob C.

  4. Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:01:47 +0100, <[email hidden]>, "Mrs

    X said:

    Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but I
    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the right
    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?
    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.
    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling as
    a hobby, hence my purchase.

    Gotta watch out for those rusty boy bikes lurking in sheds. Their
    charms are insidious and their allure irresistible. You're had.

    Welcome back. Do also check <uk.rec.cycling> for specific local
    information.

    Sheldon Brown's web site is recommended reading for answers to
    questions and general interest. Many of the articles are intended for
    novice cyclists
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/articles.html

    Quoted message said:

    I have cycled around the district this evening much to the amusement of the
    local children and the shame of my teenage daughter ( the bike is a luminous
    shocking pink)
    I intend to paint the bike to tone down the colour so any help on how to do
    it cheaply would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be a brilliant job as I
    foresee myself purchasing a lighter possibly new bike in the near future, if
    of course I continue.

    That's a very sensible approach. Pink bikes are easily identifiable in
    a jumble of bikes as well as being inherently more theft resistant.

    Quoted message said:

    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....
    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming a
    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?
    TIA

    A trip to your nearest bicycle shop will be able to accessorise your
    bike to your liking. Bells are cool. Bigger bells are louder. Ping
    bells are brash like chihuahuas. Riding near other bicycles and
    pedestrians bells are a polite cheerful recognizable warning.

    Bicycle tire inner tubes come with two type of valves. Most pumps
    these days fit both. A frame fitting pump is difficult to mount on
    some step-through type frames and might not fit your next bike.
    --
    zk

  5. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mrs X" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the


    right

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?
    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.
    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling


    as

    Quoted message said:

    a hobby, hence my purchase.
    I have cycled around the district this evening much to the amusement of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    local children and the shame of my teenage daughter ( the bike is a


    luminous

    Quoted message said:

    shocking pink)
    I intend to paint the bike to tone down the colour so any help on how to


    do

    Quoted message said:

    it cheaply would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be a brilliant job


    as

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    foresee myself purchasing a lighter possibly new bike in the near


    future,

    Quoted message said:

    if

    Quoted message said:

    of course I continue.
    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....
    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?
    TIA

    It's gonna take a little time to get all your questions answered. Be
    patient and just enjoy while you learn.

    The shifter on the left controls the derailleur that moves the chain


    between

    Quoted message said:

    the large and small chainrings that are up there with your pedals. Put


    the

    Quoted message said:

    chain on the bigger chainring when you're on flatter terrain and on the
    smaller ones as the route gets hillier. These shifts of the chain up near
    your pedals make really big differences with each shift in the effort it
    takes to keep the pedals turning.

    The shifter on the right controls the chain movement on the "cassette"


    which

    Quoted message said:

    is an assembly of cogs connected to the axle of the rear wheel. Probably
    the lower the number, the easier the pedaling which means the larger the
    gear back there. (On the back wheel, the larger the cog, the easier the
    pedaling.) Shifts of the chain along these cogs make smaller changes in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    amount of pedaling effort required. They're kinda like fine-tuning.

    You want to avoid having to really mash hard on the pedals or grind along
    with a slow pedaling cadence. This will wear your legs out quickly and


    can

    Quoted message said:

    do long-term damage to your knees. Ideally, you should find a pedaling
    cadence of between 80 and 100 rpms with which you're comfortable for a
    sustained period of time. Then the idea is to keep shifting your gears,
    depending on your terrain, to keep you pedaling at that comfortable


    cadence.

    Quoted message said:

    Your speed will vary, but that's OK.

    Later you'll learn to apply power for climbing hills faster and that sort


    of

    Quoted message said:

    thing. But for now, learn to keep shifting so you maintain a nice, steady
    rhythm on the pedals. That may involve quite a lot of shifting except on
    the flattest terrain. So be it.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to explain. I can't wait to try it out
    tomorrow!

  6. "Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:01:47 +0100, <[email hidden]>, "Mrs

    X said:

    Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the


    right

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?
    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.
    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling


    as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a hobby, hence my purchase.

    Gotta watch out for those rusty boy bikes lurking in sheds. Their
    charms are insidious and their allure irresistible. You're had.

    🙂

    Quoted message said:

    Welcome back. Do also check <uk.rec.cycling> for specific local
    information.

    Thank you. I missed that one. Just subscribed and looked through.

    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon Brown's web site is recommended reading for answers to
    questions and general interest. Many of the articles are intended for
    novice cyclists
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/articles.html

    very good. I see I've a lot to learn. Already I note I had no idea how to
    brake!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have cycled around the district this evening much to the amusement of


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    local children and the shame of my teenage daughter ( the bike is a


    luminous

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shocking pink)
    I intend to paint the bike to tone down the colour so any help on how to


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it cheaply would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be a brilliant job as


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    foresee myself purchasing a lighter possibly new bike in the near future,


    if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of course I continue.

    That's a very sensible approach. Pink bikes are easily identifiable in
    a jumble of bikes as well as being inherently more theft resistant.

    Quoted message said:

    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....
    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?
    TIA

    A trip to your nearest bicycle shop will be able to accessorise your
    bike to your liking. Bells are cool. Bigger bells are louder. Ping
    bells are brash like chihuahuas. Riding near other bicycles and
    pedestrians bells are a polite cheerful recognizable warning.

    Bicycle tire inner tubes come with two type of valves. Most pumps
    these days fit both. A frame fitting pump is difficult to mount on
    some step-through type frames and might not fit your next bike.

    You've given me lots to think about and do.
    My thanks once again 🙂

  7. "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mrs X" wrote: I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain
    bike.(clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You have so many questions--do you have a friend or acquaintance who


    rides?

    Quoted message said:

    Many of these things require hands-on inspection and advice. Get someone


    to

    Quoted message said:

    ride with you and help you out.

    I don't know anyone around here that rides a bike but I found and lost a
    leaflet on " learning to service your bike" lessons nearby, in a community
    hall or something. If I can find it again then who knows, I may find someone
    to come out riding now and again as well as learn a thing or two about
    bikes.

    Quoted message said:


    And, have fun!

    Definitely!

  8. It might/probably is in Sheldon Brown's site, but don't "cross-chain." Meaning, don't go into the biggest chainring up front and the smallest (or second smallest) cog in the rear and vice versa.

  9. keydates said:

    It might/probably is in Sheldon Brown's site, but don't "cross-chain."
    Meaning, don't go into the biggest chainring up front and the smallest
    (or second smallest) cog in the rear and vice versa.

    And don't post like keydates or no one will know WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE
    TALKING ABOUT.

    Bill "quotation, attribution, context" S.

  10. Mrs X said:

    Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but I
    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the right
    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?

    You're starting from the very beginning. I'd suggest doing some general
    reading on the fundamentals of cycling. Or, you could sign up for a
    short course in bicycling. Visit http://www.bikeleague.org and go to
    the Education and Advocacy page. Look for a Bike Ed instructor in your
    area.

    You may enjoy http://www.bicyclinglife.com

    At http://www.bicyclinglife.com/SafetySkills/ the "Frank & Fred"
    articles cover a little of what you ask about.

    Also, see http://www.bicyclinglife.com/HowTo/ShiftABike.htm

    Quoted message said:

    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.

    Hmmm. At this stage, you may be better off riding only in the daytime.
    But once you're confident enough and skilled enough, riding at night
    is fun. Good lights are still not easy to get, though. That same site
    has some info on lights.

    A saddlebag (or a handlebar bag, which I prefer) is very handy. It
    gives you a place to stash your flat tire tools, your spare tube and
    patch kit, your jacket, a snack or two, the book you bought at a
    bookstore, etc. I'd get one soon.

    Quoted message said:

    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling as
    a hobby, hence my purchase.


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....

    I think this varies state by state. My state requires bikes to have a
    bell, but they're rare as hen's teeth, and I don't know anyone who's
    been ticketed for not having that almost-useless device.

    (The people that _don't_ have them include all the bicycling cops I know!)

    Quoted message said:

    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming a
    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?

    Nope. You can get a pump to fit either (or both) of the two types of
    valves. And unless you never ride further than you can walk, you need
    to have a pump as well as the other few things necessary to fix a flat.

    Someday bikes won't get flat tires. I hope I live long enough to see
    that - but I doubt it!

    --
    --------------------+
    Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com,
    replace with cc.ysu dot edu]

  11. "Frank Krygowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mrs X said:

    Hello group.
    I have just purchased a 2nd hand ladies mountain bike. It has gears but


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have no idea how to use them, that is WHEN to use which gear. There is a
    switch on the left handlebar with no instruction and a switch on the


    right

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with 1 2 3 4 5 but I can't seem to get it in 1 without pushing the left
    switch forward. Is that correct or do need to adjust something?

    You're starting from the very beginning. I'd suggest doing some general
    reading on the fundamentals of cycling. Or, you could sign up for a
    short course in bicycling. Visit http://www.bikeleague.org and go to
    the Education and Advocacy page. Look for a Bike Ed instructor in your
    area.

    I am in England Frank. I live not far from the Bristol to Bath Cyclepath.
    http://www.southglos.gov.uk/corporate/leaflets/cycb&b.htm
    and in that leaflet you'll see mention of the Avon Cycleway which is about
    five minutes from my home, downhill...30 minutes pushing the bike back!
    I actually rode part of the Bristol to Bath cyclepath on the old boys bike
    but I'm now told it's not safe to be alone riding there, too many muggers
    and criminals along the way, I did see police warning signs in one part 🙁
    I am sure I can find lessons here, good idea. I am finding it hard to cycle
    straight and then look behind to see if a car is coming before I turn.
    Method for little things like that I'm sure could easily be taught so I can
    ride safely.

    Quoted message said:

    You may enjoy http://www.bicyclinglife.com

    At http://www.bicyclinglife.com/SafetySkills/ the "Frank & Fred"
    articles cover a little of what you ask about.

    Also, see http://www.bicyclinglife.com/HowTo/ShiftABike.htm

    Quoted message said:

    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.

    Hmmm. At this stage, you may be better off riding only in the daytime.
    But once you're confident enough and skilled enough, riding at night
    is fun. Good lights are still not easy to get, though. That same site
    has some info on lights.

    Sadly, even with lights. it's not safe here to ride at night or seemingly in
    the day in some areas. I will have to go in a group on any longer journey.

    Quoted message said:


    A saddlebag (or a handlebar bag, which I prefer) is very handy. It
    gives you a place to stash your flat tire tools, your spare tube and
    patch kit, your jacket, a snack or two, the book you bought at a
    bookstore, etc. I'd get one soon.

    Quoted message said:

    I haven't ridden a bike for 30 + years except for a rusty old boys bike
    that I rescued from the shed and rode for 5 hours up the cyclepath last
    week. I enjoyed it so much I decided to get a ladies and take up cycling


    as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a hobby, hence my purchase.


    ...

    Quoted message said:

    The new law that states all bikes must be sold with a bell.... Does that
    include 2nd hand bikes? I don't seem to have one....

    I think this varies state by state. My state requires bikes to have a
    bell, but they're rare as hen's teeth, and I don't know anyone who's
    been ticketed for not having that almost-useless device.

    Sorry if I caused confusion. We don't have to use a bell here but all new
    bikes must be sold with one. As a pedestrian that walked the Avon on
    practically a daily basis I can honestly say that many bikes crept up behind
    me unheard and I always appreciated the ones that rang their bell before
    overtaking me.

    Quoted message said:

    (The people that _don't_ have them include all the bicycling cops I know!)

    Quoted message said:

    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?

    Nope. You can get a pump to fit either (or both) of the two types of
    valves. And unless you never ride further than you can walk, you need
    to have a pump as well as the other few things necessary to fix a flat.

    Someday bikes won't get flat tires. I hope I live long enough to see
    that - but I doubt it!


    I've heard of car tyres that don't go down when they have a puncture so I
    see no reason why bikes don't have the same, except I guess the tyres would
    be rather expensive. Didn't long life lightbulbs meet a sticky end? I guess
    puncture repair kits and inner tubes could go the same way
    Thank you for taking the time to respond.

  12. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    At this stage I do not have a light front or back or a saddlebag.

    Hmmm. At this stage, you may be better off riding only in the daytime.
    But once you're confident enough and skilled enough, riding at night
    is fun. Good lights are still not easy to get, though. That same site
    has some info on lights.

    I'd still get at least basic lights early even if you don't plan to
    ride at night. You never know if you are using the bike for
    transportation when you might end up having to ride home after dark.
    Or if you are just using it for recreation, you are having so much fun
    on your ride you don't realize darkness is approaching and you're far
    from home!

    Quoted message said:

    I think this varies state by state. My state requires bikes to have a
    bell, but they're rare as hen's teeth, and I don't know anyone who's
    been ticketed for not having that almost-useless device.

    (The people that _don't_ have them include all the bicycling cops I know!)

    Apparently the City of Toronto police found it amusing to hand out a
    whole whackload of tickets for not having that almost-useless device.
    http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/cycling/cyclometer/2004_july.htm#5

    I do find a bell is useful for alerting would-be jaywalkers that
    aren't looking in your direction and figure because they don't hear a
    car its safe to cross, as well as traffic that doesn't seem aware of
    your presence (never good to assume they will hear you, but you can
    try ringing the bell and see if they then make eye contact)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Also the pump. I don't have a bicycle pump. Would I be right in assuming a
    standard pump doesn't fit the mountain bike tyre valves?

    Nope. You can get a pump to fit either (or both) of the two types of
    valves. And unless you never ride further than you can walk, you need
    to have a pump as well as the other few things necessary to fix a flat.

    And mountain bikes can have either a Presta valve (skinnier valve) or
    a Schraeder valve (similar to a car tire)

  13. Mrs X said:

    I am in England Frank. I live not far from the Bristol to Bath
    Cyclepath.

    Wave to Danny if you see him on his recumbent, then :-)

    And why not stroll along to uk.rec.cycling where some more English cyclists
    hang out?

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University

  14. Tanya said:
    Frank Krygowski said:

    I think this varies state by state. My state requires bikes to have a
    bell, but they're rare as hen's teeth, and I don't know anyone who's
    been ticketed for not having that almost-useless device.

    (The people that _don't_ have them include all the bicycling cops I know!)

    Apparently the City of Toronto police found it amusing to hand out a
    whole whackload of tickets for not having that almost-useless device.
    http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/cycling/cyclometer/2004_july.htm#5

    Yes, I heard about that. It's similar to the "You must touch your foot
    to the ground at a stop sign" ruling, when used against a person who did
    a 60-second trackstand instead.

    Quoted message said:


    I do find a bell is useful for alerting would-be jaywalkers that
    aren't looking in your direction and figure because they don't hear a
    car its safe to cross, as well as traffic that doesn't seem aware of
    your presence (never good to assume they will hear you, but you can
    try ringing the bell and see if they then make eye contact)

    Well, a bell's not totally useless. It's just "almost useless."

    My route to work includes a very short multi-use path which connects
    some dead end streets. Today I came up behind a woman walking. I
    dinged away on my almost-useless bell, going slower and slower. No
    reaction. Then I said "Bicycle, excuse me," and she finally noticed me
    and moved aside.

    I can't think of an instance where the bell works better than my voice.

    --
    Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com.
    Substitute cc dot ysu dot
    edu]

  15. Don't you have this backwards?
    To "cross-chain" would be to combine the big (outside) chainring with the
    big (inside) cog, or to combine the small (inside) chainring with the small
    (outside) cog.

    But your point is well taken; I've been amazed at how many younger cyclists
    completely ignore this. Are they misinformed or am I just not up on the
    technology?

    keydates wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:


    It might/probably is in Sheldon Brown's site, but don't "cross-chain."
    Meaning, don't go into the biggest chainring up front and the smallest
    (or second smallest) cog in the rear and vice versa.

    --
    keydates

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Frank Krygowski said:

    My route to work includes a very short multi-use path which connects
    some dead end streets. Today I came up behind a woman walking. I
    dinged away on my almost-useless bell, going slower and slower. No
    reaction. Then I said "Bicycle, excuse me," and she finally noticed me
    and moved aside.

    i thimk it depends on how well the ped's are conditioned. On the Fox
    River Trail, St. Charles to Batavia, my Incredibell(TM) moves most of 'em
    out of the way at about 50 feet with one ding.

    ..max

    --
    the part of <[email hidden]>
    was played by maxwell monningh 8-p

  17. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mrs X said:

    I am in England Frank. I live not far from the Bristol to Bath
    Cyclepath.

    Wave to Danny if you see him on his recumbent, then :-)


    I saw a man fiddling with a recumbent when I was out on the boys bike, it
    was just before the train station. I didn't realise what it was and thought
    it to be a go kart, I remember thinking " they shouldn't be allowed on the
    cyclepath"
    As I passed I realised my mistake.
    I have subbed to the uk group now. 🙂

  18. "Mrs X" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    I am in England Frank. I live not far from the Bristol to Bath
    Cyclepath.
    http://www.southglos.gov.uk/corporate/leaflets/cycb&b.htm
    and in that leaflet you'll see mention of the Avon Cycleway which
    is about
    five minutes from my home, downhill...30 minutes pushing the bike
    back!
    I actually rode part of the Bristol to Bath cyclepath on the old
    boys bike
    but I'm now told it's not safe to be alone riding there, too many
    muggers
    and criminals along the way, I did see police warning signs in one
    part 🙁
    I am sure I can find lessons here, good idea. I am finding it hard
    to cycle
    straight and then look behind to see if a car is coming before I
    turn.
    Method for little things like that I'm sure could easily be taught
    so I can
    ride safely.

    Greetings from London, but my mother lives in Bristol, as does my
    sister, and family.

    There's an outfit called Life Cycle UK, 86 Colston St, Bristol, phone
    0117-929-0440, web site www.lifecycleuk.org.uk that does bike
    training. In fact they've just been working with the CTC - the
    Cyclists' Touring Club, a famous name - to reform and revitalise all
    Britain's bike training. They used to be known as Cycle West, and in
    the days of Avon County used to write the free quarterly newsletter
    that the county used to put out. That was a good publication. It's
    a shame it's defunct.

    According to their web site, individual training, like a personal
    trainer, I suppose, is £20 per session, 90 min in the first session,
    follow ups one hour. That's about £5 cheaper than London prices for
    such things. They also do training for groups.

    Regarding danger on the bike path, I would think it depends on when
    you go. Weekend daytime, and weekday commuting times, at least,
    ought to be busy enough, I would have thought, for there not to be a
    problem. You could phone up Sustrans, also Bristol located, and see
    if they have a volunteer ranger for your locality, and ask the ranger
    for better information .

    Regarding gears, it might be a good thing if you could put your bike
    on some kind of stand, with its wheels off the ground, and then,
    while turning the pedals by hand, watch what the chain does, jumping
    from cog to cog, as you work the gear changers. The stands they have
    in bike shops are ideal, but using a piece of rope dangling from
    something can also serve. There's nothing like actually watching it
    to understand what's going on, and you can get an idea of the
    relationship between how fast the pedals go round, and how fast the
    wheel goes round, for different gears.

    Jeremy Parker

  19. Frank Krygowski said:

    Yes, I heard about that. It's similar to the "You must touch your foot
    to the ground at a stop sign" ruling, when used against a person who did
    a 60-second trackstand instead.

    Our local police traffic sergeant is a cyclist; a few members of the
    PD are even members of the local cycling advocacy group. Stated policy
    is that trackstands are okay in this city, which is cool.

    Around here, the only time the police actually ticket cyclists is when
    a collision occurs and the cyclist is at fault.

    RFM

  20. Mrs X said:


    I am in England Frank. I live not far from the Bristol to Bath Cyclepath.

    Oh! You sounded so much closer. The wind must be blowing from the east
    today!

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    --------------------+
    Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com,
    replace with cc.ysu dot edu]

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