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  1. I've taken off the tyre and the rim is single-walled and appears to be
    exactly the same as the Qu-Ax - it's got a nice brushed aluminium look
    to it but I guess it's steel (just to show my materials knowledge I
    successfully stuck a magnet to it). I presume Qu-Ax & Coker use the same
    source. It would be interesting to know if the braking surface is any
    good (have you got yours yet, pdc?)

    I've taken a couple of photos & I'll post them as soon as I get gallery
    access.

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  2. Attach them here, please.

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  3. I forgot to mention that the hole for the valve was so well drilled the
    inner tube could be fully removed with the dust cap still on...
    🙄 quality.

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  4. TheObieOne3226 said:

    *Attach them here, please. *

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  5. Mine is due in any day, I was hoping last week (damn slow international
    mail). I'll have a Magura brake on it. Pics an review as soon as I get
    it and try it out.
    Darren said the rim is alloy. Does a magnet stick to alloy?

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  6. pdc said:

    *Mine is due in any day, I was hoping last week (damn slow
    international mail). I'll have a Magura brake on it. Pics an review
    as soon as I get it and try it out.
    Darren said the rim is alloy. Does a magnet stick to alloy? *

    A magnet will not stick to aluminum alloy. If a magnet sticks to the
    rim then the rim is steel alloy. If the magnet doesn't stick then it's
    aluminum alloy. Just try the magnet away from the spokes. If the
    magnet is too close to the spokes then it could be attracted to the
    spoke instead of the rim and skew the results.

    Steel is also an alloy so calling it an alloy rim is vague. It's either
    steel alloy or aluminum alloy. I mention this just to keep Harper happy
    so he doesn't try to remind me that steel is an alloy too. 🙂

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  7. I finally got my Coker from Darren yesterday. The rim looks aluminum as
    it has a brushed look, but a magnet sticks to it so it must be some king
    of steel alloy.

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  8. Calling it an alloy rim when it is brushed steel, seems like a kinda
    sneaky way of making people think it is an aluminum alloy, as alloy is
    commonly used to mean aluminum alloy, perhaps Bedford cycles should make
    this clearer in their catalog.

    jim

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  9. I just used the magnet check on my Sun unicycle, and the rim actually is
    aluminum. That's nice to know.

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  10. john_childs said:

    *A magnet will not stick to aluminum alloy. If a magnet sticks to the
    rim then the rim is steel alloy. If the magnet doesn't stick then
    it's aluminum alloy. Just try the magnet away from the spokes. If
    the magnet is too close to the spokes then it could be attracted to
    the spoke instead of the rim and skew the results.

    Steel is also an alloy so calling it an alloy rim is vague. It's
    either steel alloy or aluminum alloy. I mention this just to keep
    Harper happy so he doesn't try to remind me that steel is an alloy
    too. *

    Thanks. I find this alloy ambiguity tiresome. Some stainless steel
    alloys are non-magnetic. Some are highly magnetic. Nickel is highly
    magnetic but unlikely to be used in pure form on a rim. However, the
    most common strike plate for a finish overplate is nickel.

    If a magnet sticks to a rim the most likely conclusion is that it is a
    common steel alloy.

    Aluminum in its pure form is, of course, not an alloy. It is commonly
    alloyed to make it harder, more machinable, more easily welded, or to
    give it a myriad of other properties. Steel is always an alloy by
    definition. Saying it is a steel rim, not an alloy rim, makes no sense
    whatsoever.

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  11. Sigh. I still simplified things too much to avoid the wrath of Harper.
    I should have just linked to the Wikipedia entry for 'alloy'
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alloy). But I'm sure Harper would find
    fault in that explanation too. 🙂

    harper said:

    *Saying it is a steel rim, not an alloy rim, makes no sense
    whatsoever. *

    Except in the bicycle marketing industry where the generic term alloy
    has been redefined to mean some form of aluminum alloy.

    When I did an internship at Boeing some shop workers tried to convince
    me that Boeing had developed a magnetic aluminum that allowed them to
    easily move parts around using an electro magnet on a crane. I didn't
    fall for it. 🙂

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  12. harper said:

    *Thanks. I find this alloy ambiguity tiresome. Some stainless steel
    alloys are non-magnetic. Some are highly magnetic. Nickel is highly
    magnetic but unlikely to be used in pure form on a rim. However, the
    most common strike plate for a finish overplate is nickel.

    If a magnet sticks to a rim the most likely conclusion is that it is a
    common steel alloy.

    Aluminum in its pure form is, of course, not an alloy. It is commonly
    alloyed to make it harder, more machinable, more easily welded, or to
    give it a myriad of other properties. Steel is always an alloy by
    definition. Saying it is a steel rim, not an alloy rim, makes no sense
    whatsoever. *

    Herper, I'm suprised that you are so frustrated by an esoteric
    definition of a material that doesn't fit non-industry definitions, yet
    are so quick to use the adjective "magnetic," which is inaccurate and
    imples that the stated material is inherently attractive of ferrous
    materials. I believe the word you want to use is "ferrous".

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  13. gerblefranklin said:

    *Herper, I'm suprised that you are so frustrated by an esoteric
    definition of a material that doesn't fit non-industry definitions,
    yet are so quick to use the adjective "magnetic," which is inaccurate
    and imples that the stated material is inherently attractive of
    ferrous materials. I believe the word you want to use is "ferrous". *

    OH BURN, IF IN UR FACE HARPER, lol

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  14. gerblefranklin said:

    * the adjective "magnetic," which is inaccurate and imples that the
    stated material is inherently attractive of ferrous materials. I
    believe the word you want to use is "ferrous". *

    Ferrous means made of or containing iron II (Fe2+).

    What is commonly called 'magnetic' is more acturately called
    ferromagnetic.

    Harper's name is 'Harper', not 'Herper'.

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  15. gerblefranklin said:

    *Herper, I'm suprised that you are so frustrated by an esoteric
    definition of a material that doesn't fit non-industry definitions,
    yet are so quick to use the adjective "magnetic," which is inaccurate
    and imples that the stated material is inherently attractive of
    ferrous materials. I believe the word you want to use is "ferrous". *

    I stand corrected. I fall, ashamed. Oh...I'm over it.

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  16. TonyMelton said:

    *To be even more pedantic 😄

    Ferrous means made of or containing iron II (Fe2+).

    What is commonly called 'magnetic' is more acturately called
    ferromagnetic. *

    I just simplify and call it all *ironic*:p

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  17. relax folks..its the 'DeLorean or Coker rims'
    (http://pndc.org/bloomberg.htm)

    i would buy a Coker if it had GullWing doors.

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  18. Does anyone have a review of the new rim yet? I'd like to know how well
    it rides and how strong it is compared to the old stock Coker rim and
    the AirFoil.

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  19. john_childs said:

    When I did an internship at Boeing some shop workers tried to convince
    me that Boeing had developed a magnetic aluminum that allowed them to
    easily move parts around using an electro magnet on a crane. I didn't
    fall for it. 🙂

    Well, if one would alloy aluminium with some iron... if that is ever
    possible?

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  20. we could always paint all the alloy componets of our unicycles with
    'magnetic paint' (http://tinyurl.com/l9nn) just to confuse people even
    more

    jim

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