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  1. I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is different.
    For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I cannot
    bear, folks. I'm 6'4" and large. I weigh probably between 350 and 400
    pounds. I can't find a scale that'll weigh my ass. Most importantly, I've
    noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and occasionally have
    apnea. Bending too low causes muscle cramps. Though I'm physically strong,
    the negatives are outweighing the positives. Not only can I barely go up
    stairs w/o breathing heavy, I feel short of breath at least a few times/per
    day. Not used to this [censored]. I've started to drink too much and eat way too
    much [censored]. I'm going to start low carb tomarrow. That is my plan. I usually
    stop because I feel like [censored] and justify it by thinking eating carbs are
    healthy. But when I eat carbs, I feel terrible. I have OCD and when I eat
    whatever I want the OCD becomes dominant. When I don't it disappears. The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I want
    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want people to
    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Thanks,

    RSG

  2. X-No-Archive: yes

    "valhalla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is


    different.

    Quoted message said:

    For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I cannot
    bear, folks.


    =====================
    You may want to start with a good physical checkup. If all is ok, start
    your diet and WALK, WALK and WALK some more!
    --

    Wysong
    Age 60. Height 5'6"
    Starting date: 1/8/05
    171/ 164 / 140 lb
    Starting date LC 7/01 at 207lbs
    Stopped losing on LC 11/01 at 165lbs
    ==========================================
    NOW WALKING 1.5 to 3 MILES DAY.
    ==========================================

  3. "valhalla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want people to
    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Be encouraged : ) I think it's an excellent diet, and considerably less of
    a PITA than any other diet I've tried before. I'm confident I can do it as a
    WOE for the rest of my life.

    If you're exercising already, carry on - if you're mostly sedentary, take it
    nice and easy at first. Walking or swimming until you're fitter - you might
    want to try the 10,000 steps a day as a target, and get up there nice and
    slow.

    Nicky.

    --
    A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/78/72Kg
    1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine
    T2 DX 05/2004

  4. valhalla wrote:
    < snip >

    Quoted message said:

    The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I


    want

    Quoted message said:

    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want


    people to

    Quoted message said:

    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Thanks,

    RSG

    There are those here that will coddle and cajole you with "support" and
    "encouragement" on your first 20 or so pounds of weight loss. Then as
    you enter into your first "stall" you'll come back for more pointers as
    to how to proceed. The process will degrade until you'll come back
    whining incessantly about how the low-carb approach to dieting doesn't
    work because;

    1. I'm taking thyroid medicine.
    2. Its my hormones.
    3. Broccoli sucks as it is not scrumptuous.
    4. My teeth were made for grinding not tearing meat.
    5. I can't accurately count calories so I'll blame the author[s] of
    low-carb diet plans.
    6. ad infinitum.

    If you do not have the internal fortitude to proceed with a low-carb
    approach as described in numerous FREE links such as those found in the
    FAQ, then you are doomed to low-carb failure.

    The "JCDK idioms" are correct and succinct. Google is your friend.

    You have an additional advantage that "normal" folks don't have: You
    have OCD.

    Use your OCD to your advantage and become a carbohydrate, protein, fat
    and exercise hyper-managed fiend and you'll be guaranteed success. But
    it has to come from within not from some silly group of cyber-posting
    community of unknowns.

  5. welcome RSG!
    have you had a physical exam lately?
    if everything is ok, i would suggest that you start your LOW CARBING
    and some walking daily.
    stay close and read and post!
    rosie

    --

    "valhalla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    : I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is
    different.
    : For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I
    cannot
    : bear, folks. I'm 6'4" and large. I weigh probably between 350 and
    400
    : pounds. I can't find a scale that'll weigh my ass. Most
    importantly, I've
    : noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and
    occasionally have
    : apnea. Bending too low causes muscle cramps. Though I'm physically
    strong,
    : the negatives are outweighing the positives. Not only can I barely
    go up
    : stairs w/o breathing heavy, I feel short of breath at least a few
    times/per
    : day. Not used to this [censored]. I've started to drink too much and
    eat way too
    : much [censored]. I'm going to start low carb tomarrow. That is my plan.
    I usually
    : stop because I feel like [censored] and justify it by thinking eating
    carbs are
    : healthy. But when I eat carbs, I feel terrible. I have OCD and
    when I eat
    : whatever I want the OCD becomes dominant. When I don't it
    disappears. The
    : main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and
    I want
    : support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want
    people to
    : encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?
    :
    : Thanks,
    :
    :
    : RSG
    :
    :

  6. On 27 Feb 2005 06:17:58 -0800, "warehouse" <[email hidden]>
    [quote="Quoted message"]
    valhalla wrote:
    < snip >

    Quoted message said:

    The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I


    want
    Quoted message said:

    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want


    people to
    Quoted message said:

    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Thanks,

    RSG



    There are those here that will coddle and cajole you with "support" and
    "encouragement" on your first 20 or so pounds of weight loss. Then as
    you enter into your first "stall" you'll come back for more pointers as
    to how to proceed. The process will degrade until you'll come back
    whining incessantly about how the low-carb approach to dieting doesn't
    work because;

    1. I'm taking thyroid medicine.
    2. Its my hormones.
    3. Broccoli sucks as it is not scrumptuous.
    4. My teeth were made for grinding not tearing meat.
    5. I can't accurately count calories so I'll blame the author[s] of
    low-carb diet plans.
    6. ad infinitum.

    If you do not have the internal fortitude to proceed with a low-carb
    approach as described in numerous FREE links such as those found in the
    FAQ, then you are doomed to low-carb failure.

    The "JCDK idioms" are correct and succinct. Google is your friend.

    You have an additional advantage that "normal" folks don't have: You
    have OCD.

    Use your OCD to your advantage and become a carbohydrate, protein, fat
    and exercise hyper-managed fiend and you'll be guaranteed success. But
    it has to come from within not from some silly group of cyber-posting
    community of unknowns.[/quote]

    Hi, welcome to the group. I have been here - doing low carb - for
    seven whole days without a flop. That is good for me - I can be good
    for 3 days, and then on the 4th, well, I have failed in the past.
    Reapeatedly.

    In this round, I was serious when I started, really disgusted by the
    way I look and the way I felt. I am feeling really good today, and
    proud of myself. I can see the differences, mostly the lack of bloat
    in my abdomen and my face. I am also pleased with the fact I have
    made it to Day 7.

    I am not OCD; in fact, if I try to be rather controlled and log
    everything I eat, I go crazy. It really bothers me. What the one guy
    said about using OCD to your advantage makes sense to me - if it is in
    your personality and it works, use it. Being free form and adapting
    to things as they happen is much easier to me. For me, I have found
    having what I need to eat on hand important, and if it is easy, such
    as premade salads from Trader Joe's available (that are low carb of
    course), leftovers, etc., for lunch to take to work, it makes life a
    lot easier.

    The biggest chore in the morning is making breakfast - I have to
    scramble eggs or something, and it just is not me. I prefer to do any
    cooking for the evening meal alone. My usual breakfast of choice is
    oatmeal. I am looking forward to the return to that at sometime in
    the future. Meanwhile, I make time to make breakfast, and intend to
    pre-make things as well, such as making a crustless, low carb quiche
    that I can grab and warm up in the microwave.

    Also, lots and lots of water helps (I am drinking about 3-4 quarts a
    day) and lots of leafy vegetables with my meals. I am not measuring
    things, but eating till satisfied, and then stopping. As I am not a
    nibbler, I seldom eat more than 4 meals a day, and the 3rd is really a
    snack around 5 as my husband I do not eat dinner till 7 or 8 when he
    gets home from work.

    The other thing is that, knowing myself and my tendency to be a
    failure on Day 4, I focused on that. I knew I could fail myself or
    say, hey, I can delay gratification and a need for chocolate - or
    whatever - today. And I have done it for Day 5. Day 6 was easier.
    Day 7 was a challenge as I was house hunting and did not think about
    bringing lunch. What to do?? Next time I'll bring some snacks, just
    in case I may miss lunch, but I am sort of confused about what I would
    want.

    Obviously, the key is to know your personality and work things so you
    can do things which will encourage your success. Balancing immediate
    gratification (food, chocolate) with delayed gratification and
    self-loathing and self-approval are important to me, and possibly to
    all of us who are challenged by change. Change is slow, and not easy.
    Recognizing this is also important. Changing habits means focusing on
    the habit you want to change, and being conscious and conscientious in
    instituting that change.

    Earlier in my youth, when low carb was just made popular, the
    restriction of carbs was much higher. I just about fainted a couple
    of time one day and decided it was awful. It was. For me, really low
    carb may not be good, but the amount I am eating is fine. How many
    carbs, don't know, but I know it is enough for a weight loss. The
    first day was toughest, so I just focused on "no white foods" (meaning
    sugar, rice, potatoes, bread), and focused on salads, soups, and being
    satisfied. It worked and the second day was easier.

    There are some people here who may think they are funny, and feel they
    have the right to "tell you as they see it," but are really, IMHO,
    just nasty. Avoid reading posts from the ones you don't like. Why
    stress yourself out? You will also find yourself reading posts from
    those you like.

    I also make myself read here every day. It reminds me why I am here.
    And what I am doing.

    Best of luck to you!
    Kaede

    176.5/??/115
    http://knakao.blogspot.com/

  7. See a doctor to investigate getting a CPAP machine to help breathing at
    night.

    Buy a copy of Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution (DANDR) and read it.

    Figure out a large variety of low carb foods you like and stock the kitchen
    with them. Throw the carby stuff in the trash can.

    Buy a scale:
    http://www.valuescale.com/bathscales.htm
    I know someone that has the Tanita model.

    Cubit
    311/187.7/165
    chart: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart58.gif

    "valhalla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is


    different.

    Quoted message said:

    For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I cannot
    bear, folks. I'm 6'4" and large. I weigh probably between 350 and 400
    pounds. I can't find a scale that'll weigh my ass. Most importantly, I've
    noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and occasionally


    have

    Quoted message said:

    apnea. Bending too low causes muscle cramps. Though I'm physically strong,
    the negatives are outweighing the positives. Not only can I barely go up
    stairs w/o breathing heavy, I feel short of breath at least a few


    times/per

    Quoted message said:

    day. Not used to this [censored]. I've started to drink too much and eat way


    too

    Quoted message said:

    much [censored]. I'm going to start low carb tomarrow. That is my plan. I


    usually

    Quoted message said:

    stop because I feel like [censored] and justify it by thinking eating carbs are
    healthy. But when I eat carbs, I feel terrible. I have OCD and when I eat
    whatever I want the OCD becomes dominant. When I don't it disappears. The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I want
    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want people to
    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Thanks,

    RSG

  8. Lifting weights and walking go well with low carb.

    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "valhalla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is
    different.
    For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I cannot
    bear, folks. I'm 6'4" and large. I weigh probably between 350 and 400
    pounds. I can't find a scale that'll weigh my ass. Most importantly, I've
    noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and occasionally
    have
    apnea. Bending too low causes muscle cramps. Though I'm physically strong,
    the negatives are outweighing the positives. Not only can I barely go up
    stairs w/o breathing heavy, I feel short of breath at least a few
    times/per
    day. Not used to this [censored]. I've started to drink too much and eat way
    too
    much [censored]. I'm going to start low carb tomarrow. That is my plan. I
    usually
    stop because I feel like [censored] and justify it by thinking eating carbs are
    healthy. But when I eat carbs, I feel terrible. I have OCD and when I eat
    whatever I want the OCD becomes dominant. When I don't it disappears. The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I want
    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want people to
    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Thanks,

    RSG

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is different.
    For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I cannot
    bear, folks. I'm 6'4" and large. I weigh probably between 350 and 400
    pounds. I can't find a scale that'll weigh my ass. Most importantly, I've
    noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and occasionally have
    apnea. Bending too low causes muscle cramps. Though I'm physically strong,
    the negatives are outweighing the positives. Not only can I barely go up
    stairs w/o breathing heavy, I feel short of breath at least a few times/per
    day. Not used to this [censored]. I've started to drink too much and eat way too
    much [censored]. I'm going to start low carb tomarrow. That is my plan. I usually
    stop because I feel like [censored] and justify it by thinking eating carbs are
    healthy. But when I eat carbs, I feel terrible. I have OCD and when I eat
    whatever I want the OCD becomes dominant. When I don't it disappears. The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I want
    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want people to
    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Hi RSG, welcome to the group! It's fortunate for you that you realize
    that the OCD symptoms worsen when you eat high carb, because THAT can be
    the key to your staying with low-carb. Whenever I entertain the notion
    of going off low-carb, even temporarily, I remember the truly gut-
    wrenching digestive problems I had when eating high-carb and realize
    that it's simply NOT WORTH IT. I'd MUCH rather feel better (LOOKING
    better is an added bonus :-). I desperately needed to lose weight and I
    am THRILLED that I did, but my HEALTH is what KEEPS me doing it.

    I agree with other posters who recommend using your OCD tendencies to
    your advantage regarding tracking your food intake. I never logged my
    food in my life until I started reading this group and then tried
    Atkins. Now it's a part of my life. It's useful in a variety of ways.
    I can see how many carbs I have taken in as the day progresses and,
    thus, know how many I have left in my budget. I also can see how many
    calories, sodium, fat and fiber I've had or might still NEED to have.
    After a while, you get a feel for what works and what doesn't and how
    some foods might affect your weight or other aspects of your health. It
    boils down to AWARENESS of what you eat -- once you have that awareness,
    you are much better equipped and more LIKELY to make changes that will
    benefit you. Many people here use Fitday.com to track their food intake
    and the nutritional values. I started out doing that, but moved to
    using an Excel spreadsheet so I could do it MY way. I have a document
    with different worksheets for my own food database, recipes, daily logs
    by month, exercise, stats, etc. It's all in one place (with backups)
    and I've referred to it often to spot trends over the last 20 months.

    As far as exercise goes, begin slowly doing something you like or at
    least are likely to continue doing. I have foot problems, so I use an
    exercise bike. When I first started using it, I thought I was going to
    pass out at 3 minutes. I worked up to 10 minutes after a week and
    eventually went to 30 minutes. Now I usually do between 10 & 25 minutes
    (my nether regions become numb by then :-). I have trouble with floor
    exercises, so I use an Ab-Doer to do abdominal exercises (more for my
    back than my abs). I have a Body-by-Jake Total Body Trainer that I use
    for weight training. The caveat on that is that it was harder to use at
    first simply because my thighs just barely fit on the side of the arm
    extension for some of the exercises when I was at 200 lbs, so it could
    be a problem for someone bigger. I haven't been exercising much in the
    last 2 months for a variety of reasons, and my weight loss has stalled,
    so it CAN make a difference.

    --
    Saffire
    205/144/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  10. Your weight-loss has stalled because you eat too much.

    --
    Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
    breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen

    "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I have come here many times in search of advice, but this time is
    different.
    For the first time, I'm serious. I have peaked at a weight that I cannot
    bear, folks. I'm 6'4" and large. I weigh probably between 350 and 400
    pounds. I can't find a scale that'll weigh my ass. Most importantly, I've
    noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and occasionally
    have
    apnea. Bending too low causes muscle cramps. Though I'm physically
    strong,
    the negatives are outweighing the positives. Not only can I barely go up
    stairs w/o breathing heavy, I feel short of breath at least a few
    times/per
    day. Not used to this [censored]. I've started to drink too much and eat way
    too
    much [censored]. I'm going to start low carb tomarrow. That is my plan. I
    usually
    stop because I feel like [censored] and justify it by thinking eating carbs are
    healthy. But when I eat carbs, I feel terrible. I have OCD and when I eat
    whatever I want the OCD becomes dominant. When I don't it disappears. The
    main reason I am writing is because I know what the answer is and I want
    support. I am dreading the beginning of low carb anmd just want people to
    encourage me. Also, what are good exercises with low carb?

    Hi RSG, welcome to the group! It's fortunate for you that you realize
    that the OCD symptoms worsen when you eat high carb, because THAT can be
    the key to your staying with low-carb. Whenever I entertain the notion
    of going off low-carb, even temporarily, I remember the truly gut-
    wrenching digestive problems I had when eating high-carb and realize
    that it's simply NOT WORTH IT. I'd MUCH rather feel better (LOOKING
    better is an added bonus :-). I desperately needed to lose weight and I
    am THRILLED that I did, but my HEALTH is what KEEPS me doing it.

    I agree with other posters who recommend using your OCD tendencies to
    your advantage regarding tracking your food intake. I never logged my
    food in my life until I started reading this group and then tried
    Atkins. Now it's a part of my life. It's useful in a variety of ways.
    I can see how many carbs I have taken in as the day progresses and,
    thus, know how many I have left in my budget. I also can see how many
    calories, sodium, fat and fiber I've had or might still NEED to have.
    After a while, you get a feel for what works and what doesn't and how
    some foods might affect your weight or other aspects of your health. It
    boils down to AWARENESS of what you eat -- once you have that awareness,
    you are much better equipped and more LIKELY to make changes that will
    benefit you. Many people here use Fitday.com to track their food intake
    and the nutritional values. I started out doing that, but moved to
    using an Excel spreadsheet so I could do it MY way. I have a document
    with different worksheets for my own food database, recipes, daily logs
    by month, exercise, stats, etc. It's all in one place (with backups)
    and I've referred to it often to spot trends over the last 20 months.

    As far as exercise goes, begin slowly doing something you like or at
    least are likely to continue doing. I have foot problems, so I use an
    exercise bike. When I first started using it, I thought I was going to
    pass out at 3 minutes. I worked up to 10 minutes after a week and
    eventually went to 30 minutes. Now I usually do between 10 & 25 minutes
    (my nether regions become numb by then :-). I have trouble with floor
    exercises, so I use an Ab-Doer to do abdominal exercises (more for my
    back than my abs). I have a Body-by-Jake Total Body Trainer that I use
    for weight training. The caveat on that is that it was harder to use at
    first simply because my thighs just barely fit on the side of the arm
    extension for some of the exercises when I was at 200 lbs, so it could
    be a problem for someone bigger. I haven't been exercising much in the
    last 2 months for a variety of reasons, and my weight loss has stalled,
    so it CAN make a difference.

    --
    Saffire
    205/144/125 - 5'1.5"
    Atkins since 6/14/03
    Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

  11. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:16:25 -0600, "valhalla" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Most importantly, I've
    noticed differences. When I sleep on my back, I snore and occasionally have
    apnea.

    If you haven't already done so, PLEASE talk to your doctor about
    investigating the severity of your apnoea. Interrupted sleep can be
    life threatening and it can increase Insulin Resistance (making weight
    loss more difficult). I was diagnosed with OSA last year, and
    treating it made all the difference to my loss.

    If you have a moderate to severe apnoea, you may require a CPAP device
    to help keep your throat open while you sleep. If you are not that
    severe, a simple change in how you sleep could be enough. Try raising
    the head of your bed slightly (I put a brick under each leg at the
    head end) as gravity can help you.

    Aramanth

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