New running shoes!

JJ said:

Hi all,

Again, thanks to everyone that has helped me with my "newbie" questions.

I just got back from a good running store, that two separate friends (they
don't know each other at all) recommended. One has been running for years
and years and years...the other is in training for a half marathon in Sept
(she's already done two 10 milers - this from someone that isn't really a
runner - such an inspiration!).

It's specifically a "runners" store...had a LARGE selection of shoes. I had
not a clue...very helpful staff. I feel that I got a good pair of shoes at
a good price. Asics for $90.

What model ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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What model ?

Ermmm...let me look...GT-2100...Does that sound right? That's from the box.
The tongue of the shoes (and box) says TN554. Not sure which is the model
number. Does that help?

JJ

JJ said:

It's specifically a "runners" store...had a LARGE selection of shoes. I had
not a clue...very helpful staff. I feel that I got a good pair of shoes at
a good price. Asics for $90.

I love you, marry me LOL Asics are the cats ass as far as I'm
concerned. Did you get the 2000 series?

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So, I'm going to put them on tonight...do a short, slow bit of running and
see how the ole shins feel. I don't expect the shoes to cause a miraculous
ability to run and run and run pain free but, compared to the very
inappropriate shoes I was using, they can't hurt.

I bet your shins feel better IMMEDIATELY, and you do more miles
tonight than you plan on.

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I was *shocked* by how *light* they are! Man o man...no wonder my shins
were hurting! The weight of the old shoes makes them feel like bricks
compared to these new ones.

So, I'll see how I feel. Take it easy and s-l-o-w since I know I did too
much too fast. I have more lung/heart capacity than my legs were ready for.
Need to strengthen the front's of my legs some too...

Run backwards to strengthen the front of your legs. Running uses the
muscles in the back of your legs, almost exclusively, so this will
help. Figure 8's (both directions) will help build up your ankles too
if they feel weak.

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I'm a little flat
footed but not too bad and I "pronate" a touch, but again not too bad. They
checked me out at the store...Glad to hear that as well.

I'll have to give a report as things go along! Thanks again to everyone
that's commented and given websites and advice! Cheers! JJ

We'll look forward to it.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

JJ said:

Ermmm...let me look...GT-2100...Does that sound right? That's from the box.
The tongue of the shoes (and box) says TN554. Not sure which is the model
number. Does that help?

GREAT SHOES!!!! (I wear them too)

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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JJ said:

Ermmm...let me look...GT-2100...Does that sound right? That's from the
box.
The tongue of the shoes (and box) says TN554. Not sure which is the model
number. Does that help?

GREAT SHOES!!!! (I wear them too)

Good to hear! I tried on three different pairs. The Asics were the first
and I mentioned to the sales guy that I'd heard (from this ng - you I think)
these were good shoes. He said he thought they were the best sellers they
had. Anyway, they felt great right outta the box. I tried two more pairs
(other brands) and they were nice too...but I went back to these. They just
seemed to feel "right" to me. Don't know why.

Can't wait to try them out! JJ

JJ said:

They just
seemed to feel "right" to me.

Well when selecting shoes, that's all that really counts. Shoes are as
individual as our feet are, that's why there is so many to chose from.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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JJ said:

It's specifically a "runners" store...had a LARGE selection of shoes. I
had
not a clue...very helpful staff. I feel that I got a good pair of shoes
at
a good price. Asics for $90.

I love you, marry me LOL Asics are the cats ass as far as I'm
concerned. Did you get the 2000 series?

Sorry...already taken <blushing> but thanks! You made my day! ;-) I
though you mentioned that brand so I gravitated toward them as I was
looking. But then I just let the sales guy bring out whatever he thought
would work (didn't request anything) and that's what he brought out.
GT-2100. I even liked the color <smirk>. Some of those shoes are pretty
darned ugly! ;-)

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Quoted message said:

So, I'm going to put them on tonight...do a short, slow bit of running and
see how the ole shins feel. I don't expect the shoes to cause a
miraculous
ability to run and run and run pain free but, compared to the very
inappropriate shoes I was using, they can't hurt.

I bet your shins feel better IMMEDIATELY, and you do more miles
tonight than you plan on.

Man, I hope so. I ran in the shoes at the store and I could still feel
twinges but...even in the old shoes, if I could get past the initial pain
(which I could at first), as I warmed up, the shins felt better. So, I'm
hoping that will happen.

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Quoted message said:

I was *shocked* by how *light* they are! Man o man...no wonder my shins
were hurting! The weight of the old shoes makes them feel like bricks
compared to these new ones.

So, I'll see how I feel. Take it easy and s-l-o-w since I know I did too
much too fast. I have more lung/heart capacity than my legs were ready
for.
Need to strengthen the front's of my legs some too...

Run backwards to strengthen the front of your legs. Running uses the
muscles in the back of your legs, almost exclusively, so this will
help. Figure 8's (both directions) will help build up your ankles too
if they feel weak.

Very helpful! Thanks! I was wondering what to do there...I asked the guy
at the store (he said the same thing you did - that running just doesn't
work the fronts of your legs) and he showed me some "toe lifts"...I'll do
those too. I can do that at my desk while working...

I'll do the 8's too...I have small, small ankles and, while the aerobics
(step and high/low) have done *wonders* for my ankle/calf strength...I still
sometimes feel a little "fragile" in the ankle area. Great suggestions!

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Quoted message said:

I'm a little flat
footed but not too bad and I "pronate" a touch, but again not too bad.
They
checked me out at the store...Glad to hear that as well.

I'll have to give a report as things go along! Thanks again to everyone
that's commented and given websites and advice! Cheers! JJ

We'll look forward to it.

Thanks! I'll be getting on that TM (sorry - that's what I can do for now)
soon. Just had dinner and I need to digest. ;-)

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TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and
the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

Eerie...since this has happened. (Sorry - don't know if I'll get attacked
for that!)

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"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Ah...yes a president that "brags" about making C's in school...Makes me
quite annoyed..."Don't worry, son, you can screw around in school and still
be president!" Geesh! What a country! (I'm actually a very proud
American, but sometimes it's hard.)

JJ said:

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What model ?

Ermmm...let me look...GT-2100...Does that sound right? That's from the box.
The tongue of the shoes (and box) says TN554. Not sure which is the model
number. Does that help?

Yeah, that's a good shoe. Also from what you've told us it sounds like a good
choice for you.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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JJ said:

They just
seemed to feel "right" to me.

Well when selecting shoes, that's all that really counts. Shoes are as
individual as our feet are, that's why there is so many to chose from.

Yup...very true. JJ

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JJ said:

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Quoted message said:

What model ?

Ermmm...let me look...GT-2100...Does that sound right? That's from the
box.
The tongue of the shoes (and box) says TN554. Not sure which is the
model
number. Does that help?

Yeah, that's a good shoe. Also from what you've told us it sounds like a
good
choice for you.

I think so...(update to come)...they were very comfortable right from the
start. JJ

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Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Well ok...

I just did a slightly shorter/slower run. But still did more than I was
planning to do. The shoes are GREAT! I can't believe how *comfortable*
they are! Amazing. And so very light too...

Ugh...why was I even trying to run in those other shoes? Oh well...live and
learn.

So...I didn't go as far or quite as fast as I had been, but that's OK. As I
said, I was able to do more than I thought I would and actually *made*
myself go ahead and stop even though I think I could have done a bit more.

I'm sometimes the type to over due it (no, really! <grin>😉 - but these are
the only legs I have so...don't want to abuse them. I "iced" (frozen
towels) my shins/calves after the run just to help things out. I may take
an ibu or something too, but we'll see.

The shoes are definitely better and I think worth every penny! So, I'll
just go from here. Listen to what my shins are saying to me. I'll just run
at this pace/distance till I feel no pain really (I don't mean good
"workout" pain, I mean "an injury is eminent" pain). Then go from there.

Thanks for all the great suggestions! This is a great ng...Very inspiring.
I never really thought of myself as one who would like running...but I
really do so far. I have to get out and off the TM, and that's the plan
once my legs are a bit more ready for it. I think I would like that even
more...though with a good CD and my headphones, the TM isn't bad! Really!
;-)

Take care all, JJ

JJ said:

Sorry...already taken <blushing> but thanks! You made my day! ;-) >

We could have an illicit affair? LOL

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though you mentioned that brand so I gravitated toward them as I was
looking. But then I just let the sales guy bring out whatever he thought
would work (didn't request anything) and that's what he brought out.
GT-2100. I even liked the color <smirk>. Some of those shoes are pretty
darned ugly! ;-)

Well I'm glad the salesperson validated everything I've said about
Asics for years. AAMOF that is pretty much what the salesperson told
me years ago.

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Man, I hope so. I ran in the shoes at the store and I could still feel
twinges but...even in the old shoes, if I could get past the initial pain
(which I could at first), as I warmed up, the shins felt better. So, I'm
hoping that will happen.

If it's strictly the shoes, it'll probably take a few days for the new
muscles to take over.

Quoted message said:

Very helpful! Thanks! I was wondering what to do there...I asked the guy
at the store (he said the same thing you did - that running just doesn't
work the fronts of your legs) and he showed me some "toe lifts"...I'll do
those too. I can do that at my desk while working...

Ahh, validation is a very cool thing LOL

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I'll do the 8's too...I have small, small ankles and, while the aerobics
(step and high/low) have done *wonders* for my ankle/calf strength...I still
sometimes feel a little "fragile" in the ankle area. Great suggestions!

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Thanks! I'll be getting on that TM (sorry - that's what I can do for now)
soon. Just had dinner and I need to digest. ;-)

Well realize that the treadmill is probably, no almost certainly a BIG
part of the problem. In treadmill running only certain muscles are
used, and they are isolated. In road or trail running you use many
more muscles.

Quoted message said:

Eerie...since this has happened. (Sorry - don't know if I'll get attacked
for that!)

Certainly not by me...

Quoted message said:

Ah...yes a president that "brags" about making C's in school...Makes me
quite annoyed..."Don't worry, son, you can screw around in school and still
be president!" Geesh! What a country! (I'm actually a very proud
American, but sometimes it's hard.)

I used to be proud, now I am ashamed as I can be. Thank god I'm a
scot.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

JJ said:

I never really thought of myself as one who would like running...but I
really do so far. I have to get out and off the TM,

As far as road or trail running goes... if time is the factor, then
consider this. When I first took up running I thought to myself "where
will I find the extra hour per day to run?", here's what happened.
Instead of sleeping 8 or 9 hours, running tired me out so much that I
slept 5 hours per night, but so soundly that I felt like I had slept 9
hours. I actually had a net gain of an hour a day after running,
showering, etc etc.
Hit the roads or trails.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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We could have an illicit affair? LOL

<blush>

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Well I'm glad the salesperson validated everything I've said about
Asics for years. AAMOF that is pretty much what the salesperson told
me years ago.

Must still be true.

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If it's strictly the shoes, it'll probably take a few days for the new
muscles to take over.

Yeah...and for any stress to go away...

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Well realize that the treadmill is probably, no almost certainly a BIG
part of the problem. In treadmill running only certain muscles are
used, and they are isolated. In road or trail running you use many
more muscles.

Yeah...I can and do see what you're saying. But, it's better than nothing
(*I think*) and it's a decent treadmill. Adjustable by the weight of the
person running on it...yada yada yada...So, I'll keep using it. But I
*will* try my best to get out and on the roads some.

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Eerie...since this has happened. (Sorry - don't know if I'll get attacked
for that!)

Certainly not by me...

Yeah...but others...(flame suit on)...

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I used to be proud, now I am ashamed as I can be. Thank god I'm a
scot.

<snort> I know what you mean...though I'm not scot as far as I know.
<smile>

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JJ said:

I never really thought of myself as one who would like running...but I
really do so far. I have to get out and off the TM,

As far as road or trail running goes... if time is the factor, then
consider this. When I first took up running I thought to myself "where
will I find the extra hour per day to run?", here's what happened.
Instead of sleeping 8 or 9 hours, running tired me out so much that I
slept 5 hours per night, but so soundly that I felt like I had slept 9
hours. I actually had a net gain of an hour a day after running,
showering, etc etc.
Hit the roads or trails.

Ah, now that's something I hadn't thought about. I do sleep better on days
that I run (even on the treadmill). I will, I will! I will get outta the
house! ;-) JJ

JJ said:

Thanks for all the great suggestions! This is a great ng...
Very inspiring.

JJ, didn't you post to this ng a year or two ago, as Goodman Brown? Or
was it Itchy Sanchez?

JJ said:

Yeah...I can and do see what you're saying. But, it's better than nothing

Ok this question bothers me. It takes no longer to run a half hour
outside than inside. You only being one state away I realize it's hot
as he** out there right now, but early mornings or evenings should
make that tolerable. So why the TM?

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

JJ said:

Ah, now that's something I hadn't thought about. I do sleep better on days
that I run (even on the treadmill). I will, I will! I will get outta the
house! ;-) JJ

Now your talkin' sweetie!

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

On 12 Aug 2005 20:38:07 -0700, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]>

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J, didn't you post to this ng a year or two ago, as Goodman Brown? Or
was it Itchy Sanchez?

Ignore him JJ, he's a lealous newbie.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."