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Penny S · 2003-01-25T23:40:26+00:00

OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated. http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/riverside.htm penny

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Penny S
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25 January 2003, 23:40 UTC #1

OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the
photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny

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Sorni
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25 January 2003, 23:40 UTC #2

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still

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progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback
appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.

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J'M Sm'Th
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25 January 2003, 23:40 UTC #3

25 Jan 2003 06:27:59 GMT 'Sorni said:
"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still

in
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progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback
appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
Jesus, Bill, will you ever learn?--That's what you get with cable. Those pages loaded in a
snap with DSL.
Sorry.
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J'M Sm'Th
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #4

25 Jan 2003 06:47:26 GMT 'Sorni said:
You a funny man, JS.
Now go back to wherever you've been last few months 🙂
Bill "totally over my DSL Hell" S.
Dude, you have to get *away* from de PacHell, man.
And go with a *real* DSL kompany, man.
Heh.
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Westie
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #5

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still

in
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progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback
appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny
I like the firstpage a lot. The simple layout works for me. However, and I'm getting picky, I
thought the text against the irregular background was harder to read than it could be. May be you
could make the font a little larger or the background plainer?
The pics on the second page wouldn't entirely load for me. And the ones that did took ages. It
seemed like a bandwidth issue. How good is your host? Even with small file sizes that page was a
several hundred KB in size by the time you added up all those pictures. Maybe you could use
thumbnails that people can click to get the larger picture instead?
It's looking good. The riding looks great too!
Westie

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Bill Wheeler
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #6

penny s said:

OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the
photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny

Looks nice, everything loaded in a snap for me. Thanks for making the effort!
Peace, Bill
The mind serves properly as a window glass rather than as a reflector, that is, the mind should give
an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
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Jd
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #7

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the
photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
I think they look good, though you need to encase yourself in much more plastic so you can look like
one of Alastair Maxwell's dewbie pals.
JD

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Anthony Sloan
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #8

First off, good show. Nice stuff. I like simple presentation.
A couple of suggestions. On my business website I used text boxes, but with a white background to
aid in reading. It also adds some nice contrast to the page. Might be worth playing with.
A few examples: dsloan.com2WebA12.htm
dsloan.com78WebA12.htm
There are a couple of empty boxes (i.e. across from "Rides:"😉. I would recommend only making text
boxes when you have something to put in them.
As far as photos go, I try to keep file sizes around 100k, but with some of the important maps i
deal in, they have to be bigger or they look terrible.
Keep tweaking and adding to it. The web is a dynamic medium, too many people put up a page and never
tweak or add to it. ( I am sometimes guilty of that.) Keep it fresh and folks will come back. I have
webalizer on my personal page (anthonysloan.comanthonysloan.com), which shows me where people are coming
from, and how they are finding me. It is amazing what google can do for you. And sort of scary.
Tuvalu I can understand, but Seychelles?
So far the most search engine hits have come from the Karate Monkey. That rocks.
Overall it looks quite nice, I look forward to seeing it evolve.
Anthony
penny s said:
OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the
photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny

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Sorni
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #9

"J'm Sm'th" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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25 Jan 2003 06:27:59 GMT 'Sorni said:
"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still

in
Quoted message said:
progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback
appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
Jesus, Bill, will you ever learn?--That's what you get with cable. Those pages loaded in a snap
with DSL.
Sorry.
You a funny man, JS.
Now go back to wherever you've been last few months 🙂
Bill "totally over my DSL Hell" S.

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Stephen Baker
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26 January 2003, 00:00 UTC #10

Ok, OK, so this makes TWO mails in a day. But..... I didn't want to make negative comments in
public, mainly because I loved the bike pages, and wish i had the energy right now to do something
similar, but you do need a spell-checker in there a bit. And I need to learn ho to split sentences
in to smaller chunks. ;-) Kee pup the good work, and don't listen to those who [censored] about the pics
not loading fast enough - they came in fine here, loading both pages and the Team Puke one all at
once on a dial-up. They're just spoilt kids who expect instant gratification (and I'm jealous)
Steve

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Penny S
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26 January 2003, 03:40 UTC #11

J'm Sm'th said:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:27:59 GMT
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They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
Jesus, Bill, will you ever learn?--That's what you get with cable. Those pages loaded in a snap
with DSL.
Sorry.
hmm, I"m building this thing w/dsl. time to resize?
penny

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Penny S
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26 January 2003, 04:00 UTC #12

Anthony Sloan said:
First off, good show. Nice stuff. I like simple presentation.
A couple of suggestions. On my business website I used text boxes, but with a white background to
aid in reading. It also adds some nice contrast to the page. Might be worth playing with.
thanks for the tips.
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Keep tweaking and adding to it. The web is a dynamic medium, too many people put up a page
and never tweak or add to it. ( I am sometimes guilty of that.) Keep it fresh and folks will
come back.
Well I already have a huge site, the in progress work isn't linked up yet. www.specialtyoutdoors.com
will re size photos tho.
Penny

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Penny S
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26 January 2003, 05:00 UTC #13

penny s said:
J'm Sm'th said:
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They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
Jesus, Bill, will you ever learn?--That's what you get with cable. Those pages loaded in a snap
with DSL.
Sorry.
hmm, I"m building this thing w/dsl. time to resize?
penny
Problem solved: I"d forgot to "web optimize" my photos, I resized them from the originals, then
laoded the full size image into the coded size. D'oh. Should load much better now... I did re size
the one large one.
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Bloocow
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26 January 2003, 05:20 UTC #14

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still

in
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progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback
appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny
Size looks good to me. Loaded fast on my cable too. For the riverside pics, it would be nice to put
comments with the pics. Nice simple layout too.
bloocow

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Bloocow
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26 January 2003, 05:20 UTC #15

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"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much

still
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in
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progress. Are the photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback

appreciated.
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specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
According to my local newspaper, at about 5am GMT on Sat 25 Jan 2003, there was a virus attack on
worldwide internet services using email and web lasting up to 6 hrs so you might have been affected
looking at the time you posted this msg.
bloocow.

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Westie
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26 January 2003, 05:20 UTC #16

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penny s said:
J'm Sm'th said:
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> They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.

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Problem solved: I"d forgot to "web optimize" my photos, I resized them

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the originals, then laoded the full size image into the coded size. D'oh. Should load much better
now... I did re size the one large one.
specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
Yep. That worked for me. I like the crossingbasalt pic. I didn't get it to load before.
Westie

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Sorni
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26 January 2003, 05:40 UTC #17

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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penny s said:
J'm Sm'th said:
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:27:59 GMT
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> They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
>
> Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
Jesus, Bill, will you ever learn?--That's what you get with cable. Those pages loaded in a snap
with DSL.
Sorry.
hmm, I"m building this thing w/dsl. time to resize?
penny
Problem solved: I"d forgot to "web optimize" my photos, I resized them

from
Quoted message said:
the originals, then laoded the full size image into the coded size. D'oh. Should load much better
now... I did re size the one large one.
specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
Much, much better (although I think my previous problem may have been on my end, anyway -- original
links loading better now, too).
Bill "nice work, btw" S.

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Penny S
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26 January 2003, 06:00 UTC #18

bloocow said:
"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:

OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the
photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny
Size looks good to me. Loaded fast on my cable too. For the riverside pics, it would be nice to
put comments with the pics. Nice simple layout too.
I thought about a lot of comments, etc. I may do captions if I can think of interesting things to
say, but I'm not doing trail maps, descriptions or any of that stuff. They can figure it out for
themselves. <g>
Penny

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Cameron
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26 January 2003, 23:00 UTC #19

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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J'm Sm'th said:
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They're taking FOREVER to load, Penny, and I have cable.
Bill "pics never DID come up" S.
Jesus, Bill, will you ever learn?--That's what you get with cable. Those pages loaded in a snap
with DSL.
Sorry.
hmm, I"m building this thing w/dsl. time to resize?
penny
Hmm, on your 'bike.htm' page I'm still getting only one pic. Html problem or you just haven't linked
'em yet? Other pics look good, the old man is still trying to get me over there, must bring my bike.
BTW, what's up with this 'I"d' and 'I"m' thing???? :-) Too many personalities?
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Cameron
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26 January 2003, 23:10 UTC #20

"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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bloocow said:
"penny s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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OK, these new pages are not linked to my site yet and are very much still in progress. Are the
photos too big? I just built these for the heck of it, constructive feedback appreciated.
specialtyoutdoors.combiking.htm specialtyoutdoors.comriverside.htm
penny
Size looks good to me. Loaded fast on my cable too. For the riverside pics, it would be nice to
put comments with the pics. Nice simple layout too.
I thought about a lot of comments, etc. I may do captions if I can think

of
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interesting things to say, but I'm not doing trail maps, descriptions or

any
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of that stuff. They can figure it out for themselves. <g>
Penny
I built my page in just a few minutes with Frontpage Express. Gag. Guess that's why the page is so
blah. Plus I'm lazy. I just numbered the pics and put a descriptive table underneath.
--
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