New Hip Pain

Leafing through rec.running, I read Wayne Conway's message of 13 Nov
2004:

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Just finished my first cycle of organized speedwork following a year
and a half bout with PF. The PF is fine now (or at least easily
managable), but I've had an unfamiliar ache crop up just above the hip
joint (both sides), and just below the horn of the pelvis.

But the PF is still there, or you are at least conscious of it. This
could be causing an imbalance somewhere else.

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If you push on the bone in that area the pain is more acute

Bone or muscle? I don't think there's a lot of exposed bone right there
to push on.

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(yeah, don't do that). It's hardly anything to complain about. Once
I'm warmed up, I barely think about it. Like most other little dings,
it makes itself known after a period of inactivity (like sleep). Is
there a muscle (or muscle group) that attaches to the pelvis in that
area?

Possibly iliopsoas, inferior gemellus, or obturator internus. These
muscle groups are all located in the area you describe. The iliospoas
flexes the torso in relation to the thigh. So I think that is the most
running-related muscle group. If you've just started speed work, this
muscle group might be getting unfamiliar stress.

This site might help you locate the exact name
http://www.rad.washington.edu/atlas2

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Again, the pain is right at the bone. I'm sure this is speedwork
related. I am using a cushioned track and good shoes (2080's). Sound
familiar to anyone. Total mileage hasn't increased significantly from
normal (25-30mpw), speedwork is the only recent change.

How much speedwork are you doing?

Phil M.

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Short, South African coach.

Leafing through rec.running, I read Phil M.'s message of 13 Nov 2004:

Quoted message said:

Possibly iliopsoas, inferior gemellus, or obturator internus. These
muscle groups are all located in the area you describe. The iliospoas
flexes the torso in relation to the thigh. So I think that is the most
running-related muscle group. If you've just started speed work, this
muscle group might be getting unfamiliar stress.

On second thought, since you said it is on the side, it may be one of the
other groups. Both of the other muscle groups that I mentioned rotate the
thigh laterally. If you're favoring the PF injury, I could imagine
excessive rotation.

Oh yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I am a systems administrator. So if I can't
fix it by rebooting, then I'm in big trouble. ;-) Good luck.

Phil M.

Phil M. wrote: (snip)

"If you're favoring the PF injury, I could imagine

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excessive rotation."

Don't really believe the PF is an issue here. The pain is equal on both
sides. I merely mentioned that to say that it had been awhile since I
had done speedwork and maybe not used the muscle groups involved for awhile.

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"Oh yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I am a systems administrator. So if I
can't

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fix it by rebooting, then I'm in big trouble. ;-) Good luck."

At 51, rebooting could be hazardous. Now if I could figure out how to
do a "system restore"... :-)

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Phil M.

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The generation of random numbers is too vital a task to be left to chance.

Leafing through rec.running, I read Wayne Conway's message of 13 Nov
2004:

Quoted message said:

I merely mentioned that to say that it had been awhile since I
had done speedwork and maybe not used the muscle groups involved for
awhile.

Then it's probably due to the speedwork. But I would be concerned that it
might be the bone, in which case you might be looking at a stress fracture
here.

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At 51, rebooting could be hazardous. Now if I could figure out how to
do a "system restore"... :-)

I think that might be reincarnation, but you've got another 51 years to
think about it.

Phil M.

Wayne,

It sounds like tensor fasciitis, an inflammation of the tensor fascia where
the outside muscles of the leg attach to the pelvis at the hip. Google it
and see if your symptoms match. It can be quite debilitating if untreated.
I've had it and it can be a prolonged rehab. If it persists I suggest you
see an orthopedic surgeon and/or a physical therapist.

Bob

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Just finished my first cycle of organized speedwork following a year
and a half bout with PF. The PF is fine now (or at least easily
managable), but I've had an unfamiliar ache crop up just above the hip
joint (both sides), and just below the horn of the pelvis. If you push
on the bone in that area the pain is more acute (yeah, don't do that).
It's hardly anything to complain about. Once I'm warmed up, I barely
think about it. Like most other little dings, it makes itself known
after a period of inactivity (like sleep). Is there a muscle (or muscle
group) that attaches to the pelvis in that area? Again, the pain is
right at the bone. I'm sure this is speedwork related. I am using a
cushioned track and good shoes (2080's). Sound familiar to anyone. Total
mileage hasn't increased significantly from normal (25-30mpw), speedwork
is the only recent change. Thanks.
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Good call Bob. Took a few searches, but was able to determine that the
pain was at the attachment point of the tensor fascia latae to the
outside of iliac crest. Although the only discomfort I have is localized
at that attachment point, it was interesting to find that this muscle is
actually forms upper portion of the ITB. I have no doubt now that my
recent renewal of speedwork is the culprit. Worth keeping an eye on. Thanks.

Bob said:

Wayne,

It sounds like tensor fasciitis, an inflammation of the tensor fascia where
the outside muscles of the leg attach to the pelvis at the hip. Google it
and see if your symptoms match.

--
The generation of random numbers is too vital a task to be left to chance.