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Katie said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical miracle
on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost 5
months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already put
on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with fibromyalgia,
going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on what
exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Thanks,
Katie

Hey Katie! I'm on AS3 too. As to your question, I don't think anyone here
is doing a "no-carb" diet. It's LOW carb, not no carb. Carbs are in
everything except meat, and we don't just eat meat.

Which plan you go on is up to you. Here are some of the formal diet plans
some of us are on:

Atkins
South Beach
Protein Power
Neanderthin
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet

There are more but I can't remember them all.

If you start researching those online, maybe one of those will jump out at
you as something you think fits your personality and your lifestyle.

If you don't want to do someone else's plan, and you'd rather make up your
own, that's ok too. The best diet to go on is one that eliminates or
severely limits those foods that you, personally, find hard to stop eating.
For most people, that ends up being starchy and/or sugary foods. It's
quite easy to mindlessly munch on a big tubful of popcorn, or a big bag of
chips or candy, and never feel full. A bit harder to do that with
hardboiled eggs or steak, huh?

Anyway, to be a bit more specific, my plan, which enabled me to lose 50
pounds (before I quit smoking and gained back 8, lol), started thusly:

No potatoes, corn, pasta, bread, fruit, milk, or sugary stuff like candy,
cakes, etc.

I ate as much meat, cheese, eggs, and vegetables (other than pasta or corn)
that I wanted.

I started working out, first at Curves, then later on at the YMCA.

After about the first 40 pounds, I had to start paying more attention to
portion size.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Quoted message said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical miracle
on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost 5
months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already put
on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with fibromyalgia,
going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on what
exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Thanks,
Katie

I lost weight doing Atkins WOE (Way of Eating). I am glad you joined in. I have
a diagnosis of Fibromyalgia too. There are others in here also. The WOE has
improved the symptoms of FMS. Yet some still remain. A little improvement is
better than none at all. I no longer have IBS, painful knees, Urinary or Kidney
troubles. Allergies have even cleared up. Trying to remember all the things
thats improved. Fibro fog here at times. I have lost around 70 pounds so far, I
started the WOE in January 2004.

Anyway, welcome to the group!
Once you choose which plan you want to try. Buy the book and read it from cover
to cover first. Look forward to reading you.

Good Luck!
Congrats on the quitting smoking. I am going to try and quit again myself. I
set this weekend as my quit date.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Katie said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical

miracle

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on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost

5

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months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already

put

Quoted message said:

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on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with

fibromyalgia,

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going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on

what

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Quoted message said:

exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Thanks,
Katie

Hey Katie! I'm on AS3 too. As to your question, I don't think anyone here
is doing a "no-carb" diet. It's LOW carb, not no carb. Carbs are in
everything except meat, and we don't just eat meat.

Which plan you go on is up to you. Here are some of the formal diet plans
some of us are on:

Atkins
South Beach
Protein Power
Neanderthin
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet

There are more but I can't remember them all.

If you start researching those online, maybe one of those will jump out at
you as something you think fits your personality and your lifestyle.

If you don't want to do someone else's plan, and you'd rather make up your
own, that's ok too. The best diet to go on is one that eliminates or
severely limits those foods that you, personally, find hard to stop

eating.

Quoted message said:

For most people, that ends up being starchy and/or sugary foods. It's
quite easy to mindlessly munch on a big tubful of popcorn, or a big bag of
chips or candy, and never feel full. A bit harder to do that with
hardboiled eggs or steak, huh?

Anyway, to be a bit more specific, my plan, which enabled me to lose 50
pounds (before I quit smoking and gained back 8, lol), started thusly:

No potatoes, corn, pasta, bread, fruit, milk, or sugary stuff like candy,
cakes, etc.

I ate as much meat, cheese, eggs, and vegetables (other than pasta or

corn)

Quoted message said:

that I wanted.

I started working out, first at Curves, then later on at the YMCA.

After about the first 40 pounds, I had to start paying more attention to
portion size.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Hi!
Sorry about that last one that was empty! Thanks for the info. I am looking
up the diets you mentioned.

I said I'd begun a "no carb" diet, but meant that I have cut out potatoes,
rice, pasta, bread, anything sugary and alcohol.

Carbs have always been addictive for me so I will probably check out the
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet.
Thanks muchly.
Katie

"Luna" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Katie said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical

miracle

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost

5

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already

put

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with

fibromyalgia,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on

what

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Thanks,
Katie

Hey Katie! I'm on AS3 too. As to your question, I don't think anyone here
is doing a "no-carb" diet. It's LOW carb, not no carb. Carbs are in
everything except meat, and we don't just eat meat.

Which plan you go on is up to you. Here are some of the formal diet plans
some of us are on:

Atkins
South Beach
Protein Power
Neanderthin
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet

There are more but I can't remember them all.

If you start researching those online, maybe one of those will jump out at
you as something you think fits your personality and your lifestyle.

If you don't want to do someone else's plan, and you'd rather make up your
own, that's ok too. The best diet to go on is one that eliminates or
severely limits those foods that you, personally, find hard to stop

eating.

Quoted message said:

For most people, that ends up being starchy and/or sugary foods. It's
quite easy to mindlessly munch on a big tubful of popcorn, or a big bag of
chips or candy, and never feel full. A bit harder to do that with
hardboiled eggs or steak, huh?

Anyway, to be a bit more specific, my plan, which enabled me to lose 50
pounds (before I quit smoking and gained back 8, lol), started thusly:

No potatoes, corn, pasta, bread, fruit, milk, or sugary stuff like candy,
cakes, etc.

I ate as much meat, cheese, eggs, and vegetables (other than pasta or

corn)

Quoted message said:

that I wanted.

I started working out, first at Curves, then later on at the YMCA.

After about the first 40 pounds, I had to start paying more attention to
portion size.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Hello, it's nice to meet a fellow fibromite although I'm sorry it has to be
the case for both of us. Could you tell me a little bit about the WOE diet?
I remember Atkins from long ago and I also remember it being classified as
unhealthy by certain people. I have a cookbook for people with Fibro. It
says to avoid fat, red meat, green peppers, eggplant, alcohol... If milk
products are used, it's usually low-fat yogurt. It's hard to find my way in
all these diets.

So glad you have noticed an improvement in your health.

I certainly wish you luck quitting smoking. It's a tricky addiction.

All the best and take care,
Katie

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical

miracle

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost 5
months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already

put

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with fibromyalgia,
going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on

what

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Thanks,
Katie

I lost weight doing Atkins WOE (Way of Eating). I am glad you joined in. I

have

Quoted message said:

a diagnosis of Fibromyalgia too. There are others in here also. The WOE

has

Quoted message said:

improved the symptoms of FMS. Yet some still remain. A little improvement

is

Quoted message said:

better than none at all. I no longer have IBS, painful knees, Urinary or

Kidney

Quoted message said:

troubles. Allergies have even cleared up. Trying to remember all the

things

Quoted message said:

thats improved. Fibro fog here at times. I have lost around 70 pounds so

far, I

Quoted message said:

started the WOE in January 2004.

Anyway, welcome to the group!
Once you choose which plan you want to try. Buy the book and read it from

cover

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to cover first. Look forward to reading you.

Good Luck!
Congrats on the quitting smoking. I am going to try and quit again myself.

I

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set this weekend as my quit date.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Katie said:

Hi!
Sorry about that last one that was empty! Thanks for the info. I am looking
up the diets you mentioned.

I said I'd begun a "no carb" diet, but meant that I have cut out potatoes,
rice, pasta, bread, anything sugary and alcohol.

Carbs have always been addictive for me so I will probably check out the
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet.
Thanks muchly.
Katie

In my opinion, ironically the Carbohydrate Addict's Diet is the one that
makes the least sense for people who are truly addicted to carbs. Since
you're an ex-smoker too, maybe you will get this analogy. To me the CAD is
like a program to quit smoking where you don't smoke all day, but then you
can smoke as much as you want for a one hour period at night. Huh?

I guess if you try it and it doesn't help with cravings, you can always
move on to something more strict.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical miracle
on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost 5
months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already put
on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with fibromyalgia,
going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on what
exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Hi Katie, welcome to the group! First and foremost, do NOT go on a "NO carb"
diet. LOW carb is what you should aim for. Eat your vegetables, drink lots of
water and take your supplements. Have you decided on a particular plan (Atkins,
South Beach, Protein Power, etc.)?

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

"Saffire" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le
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In article <[email hidden]>,

[email hidden]

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says...

Quoted message said:

Hello,

I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his medical

miracle

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit smoking almost

5

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had already

put

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with

fibromyalgia,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work for me.

Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let me in on

what

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?

Hi Katie, welcome to the group! First and foremost, do NOT go on a "NO

carb"

Quoted message said:

diet. LOW carb is what you should aim for. Eat your vegetables, drink

lots of

Quoted message said:

water and take your supplements. Have you decided on a particular plan

(Atkins,

Quoted message said:

South Beach, Protein Power, etc.)?

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Wow Saffire, congratulations on your new figure!
I haven't decided yet. I just wanted to do something simple, i.e. cut out
bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, sugar and alcohol. Is there any reason I
should not do this? I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

Thanks
Katie

welcome to the group!
you can learn a lot about LOW CARBING here, without buying the book,
though i do recommend it!
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-464579.html

--
rosie

"I think Senator Kerry should be proud of his record. No, I don't
think he lied."
.....................................................GEORGE W. BUSH
(8-25-04)
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html

"Katie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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:
: "Saffire" <[email hidden]> a écrit
dans le
: message de news: [email hidden]...
: > In article <[email hidden]>,
: [email hidden]
: > says...
: > > Hello,
: > >
: > > I found this group thanks to Ken Bessler posting about his
medical
: miracle
: > > on alt.support.stop-smoking. Congratulations Ken! I quit
smoking almost
: 5
: > > months ago and I am trying very hard to lose weight now. I had
already
: put
: > > on a lot of weight in the past years since coming down with
: fibromyalgia,
: > > going through menopause and depression. No diets seem to work
for me.
: > >
: > > Recently I started a no-carb diet. I wonder if you could let
me in on
: what
: > > exactly you all are doing in order to lose weight?
: >
: > Hi Katie, welcome to the group! First and foremost, do NOT go
on a "NO
: carb"
: > diet. LOW carb is what you should aim for. Eat your
vegetables, drink
: lots of
: > water and take your supplements. Have you decided on a
particular plan
: (Atkins,
: > South Beach, Protein Power, etc.)?
: >
: > --
: > Saffire
: > 205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
: > Atkins since 6/14/03
: > Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333
:
: Wow Saffire, congratulations on your new figure!
: I haven't decided yet. I just wanted to do something simple, i.e.
cut out
: bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, sugar and alcohol. Is there any
reason I
: should not do this? I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet
book, but
: I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!
:
: Thanks
: Katie
:
:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Katie said:

I haven't decided yet. I just wanted to do something simple, i.e. cut out
bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, sugar and alcohol. Is there any reason I
should not do this? I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

Thanks
Katie

Yeah, don't worry about it, just go with your plan. That's pretty much how
I started. Also cut out anything with corn syrup or partially hydrogentated
oils, which would probably limit upwards of 90% of packaged, processed
foods and junk food. If you want you can always refine your plan later on.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 17:08:40 GMT, Luna <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Katie said:

I haven't decided yet. I just wanted to do something simple, i.e. cut
out
bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, sugar and alcohol. Is there any reason I
should not do this? I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet
book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

Thanks
Katie

Yeah, don't worry about it, just go with your plan. That's pretty much
how
I started. Also cut out anything with corn syrup or partially
hydrogentated
oils, which would probably limit upwards of 90% of packaged, processed
foods and junk food. If you want you can always refine your plan later
on.

Add sugar to that list, and you'd be at 99.99%. The bummer is the
partially hydrogenated oils -- they are in everything.

--
Bob in CT
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Wow Saffire, congratulations on your new figure!

Thank you!

Quoted message said:

I haven't decided yet. I just wanted to do something simple, i.e. cut out
bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, sugar and alcohol. Is there any reason I
should not do this? I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

You can check websites (such as www.atkins.com) to get more info. We usually
STRONGLY recommend reading at least one of the books because it's very easy to
get off-track when that track is not clearly defined. For instance, I can't tell
you how many people start to post here telling us that they are on a no-carb diet
-- and they really mean NO CARB, eating nothing but cheese and meat morning, noon
and night. That's because they are basing their new way of eating on what
they've seen on TV (which is usually GROSSLY slanted and often just plain WRONG)
and by gossip. Then they give up because it's too restrictive or because they
are severely constipated. Or they THINK they are not taking in any carbs, but
they are actually taking in a LOT of carbs because they don't understand what
they are doing. When it doesn't work for them, they tell everyone what a crock
it is and how it doesn't work when, in reality, they weren't doing it in the
first place. By understanding HOW a particular way of eating (WOE) works, you
are MUCH more likely to stick to it and do it RIGHT.

You are certainly headed in the right direction by cutting out the aforementioned
foods, and you will feel better because of it (after the first week, anyway :-).
I know *I* feel better than I have in YEARS -- low carbing has TRULY changed my
life for the better! This is a good group to stick around in for low-carb
support. It's been INVALUABLE in keeping me informed and helping me to stay
focused! Some people lose weight quickly, and others (like ME) lose it very
slowly, so it's good to know you are not alone, no matter which category you ar
ein. Most of us are pretty friendly (although we all have our days), and the
trolls are usually pretty obvious.

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:15:08 +0200, "Katie" <[email hidden]>

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I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

Thanks
Katie

LIBRARY
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

I found the Atkins book to be full of self-grandisment and basically not
getting to the point but I got a really good kick start with a book called
protein power by Michael and Mary Eades.

After I read that book I used the www.atkins.com web site and did massive
research from many different angles using their search engine to ask
specific questions.

I did finally buy the protein power book on e-bay after returning the
library copy.

Don't think I would have been successful without protein power or
www.atkins.com ... combined they did the trick for me.

Placid

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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:15:08 +0200, "Katie" <[email hidden]>

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I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

Thanks
Katie

LIBRARY
Lee Rodgers
Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org
CHAT http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html
Low-Carb Connoisseur http://www.low-carb.com

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:15:08 +0200, "Katie" <[email hidden]>

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Is there any reason I
should not do this? I am not so stingy that I refuse to buy a diet book, but
I can't figure out which one would be worth the money and effort!

Here's a webpage that has short summaries of several LC books:

http://www.lowcarb.ca/atkins-diet-and-low-carb-plans/

Luna said:

Hey Katie! I'm on AS3 too. As to your question, I don't think anyone here
is doing a "no-carb" diet. It's LOW carb, not no carb. Carbs are in
everything except meat, and we don't just eat meat.

I am pretty close All I can eat is meat nuts and veggies and cheese. I have a
bunch of food allergies and I can't find anything else I can eat.

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