In case you hadn't spotted it in other ng's and on the Nuttalls website, the 252nd official English Nuttall has been discovered. It is Honister Crag (a.k.a. Black Star), which is a subsidiary to of Fleetwith Pike with 67ft separation from the main top. Grid ref is NY 213141, height 2067ft/630m
Looking at the map, I don't think I accidently bagged it, but must have passed within 100m of it on my way down from Fleetwith Pike - damn, damn and double-damn, with an extra helping of damn on the side !
Looking at the map, I don't think I accidently bagged it, but must have passed within 100m of it on my way down from Fleetwith Pike - damn, damn and double-damn, with an extra helping of damn on the side
This is when I feel really stupid being a bagger, the fact that I feel this need to...well.... bag it. I havent even checked my gps tracks, because, if I didnt know I bagged it, I am not sure if it would count as having been bagged.
oh well, an excuse to kip out in one of the two bothy like places not a million miles away. I may be becoming a bothy bagger too.
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In case you hadn't spotted it in other ng's and on the Nuttalls website, the 252nd official English Nuttall has been discovered. It is Honister Crag (a.k.a. Black Star), which is a subsidiary to of Fleetwith Pike with 67ft separation from the main top. Grid ref is NY 213141, height 2067ft/630m
Gives you a warm feeling inside knowing that you didn't stick to the path after ascending Fleetwith Pike but walked along the top of Honister Crag to look down on the valley. Is this another one of those examples where the path isn't quite in the right place for the most satisfying walk ie the path down from Helvellyn which avoids the tops of Dollywagon Pike and Nethermost Pike.
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I wonder whether Martin has 'bagged' it...
Spotted the mention of a new Nuttall in a RHB message, so thought I'd pop over here for a look - and yes I'm pretty certain I have.
My version of Memory-map says it is 633m at NY 21250 14150
-- Martin Richardson 239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths'- 0% to go 42/89 Donalds - 53% to go 446/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go 351/525 Hewitts - 33% to go (E=178/178; W=137/137; I=36/211)
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I wonder whether Martin has 'bagged' it...
Spotted the mention of a new Nuttall in a RHB message, so thought I'd pop over here for a look - and yes I'm pretty certain I have.
My version of Memory-map says it is 633m at NY 21250 14150
Just remembered that I used to log all my Lake walks when I was completing the Wainwrights back in the seventies/eighties. Log shows that I topped Honister Crag twice - 10 June 1978 and Boxing Day 1988.
-- Martin Richardson 239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths'- 0% to go 42/89 Donalds - 53% to go 446/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go 351/525 Hewitts - 33% to go (E=178/178; W=137/137; I=36/211)
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Spotted the mention of a new Nuttall in a RHB message, so thought I'd pop over here for a look - and yes I'm pretty certain I have.
My version of Memory-map says it is 633m at NY 21250 14150
Just remembered that I used to log all my Lake walks when I was completing the Wainwrights back in the seventies/eighties. Log shows that I topped Honister Crag twice - 10 June 1978 and Boxing Day 1988.
I did Fleetwith Pike with my father some time before 1962 (probably 1961). I recall very little of the walk so have no idea whether I did it or not so it is a good thing that I am not actively collecting Nutalls atm. :-)
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 116 summits New - 88 (Marilyns 14, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 76) Repeats - 28 (Marilyns 11, Sweats 21, Wainwrights 16, Outlying Fells 1)
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:25:57 +0000, Bootlaces <[email hidden]>
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 22:20:22 GMT in <news:[email hidden]> RJ Webb (RJ Webb <[email hidden]>😉 wrote :
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An emergency meeting of the Furth Donald Editorial Comittee has concluded that this bump will not be added to the list...
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Been up there, but cannot say I noticed it...
<rememberances> As a 'prominence' - it isn't really. But a wander around with the views down to the toy-town cars in the pass it is worth the expended minutes.
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Not really interested in 15m drops, but will probably have another look sometimes.
Thought I'd do a similar check using Anquet. There seem to be some inaccuracies in height data in this area - Anquet seems to have Honister Crag/Black Star on the downslope, with the highest point nearer the marked path, i.e. no bump at all ! Does this mean that Anquet and MM are getting their height data from different sources, with MM being more accurate ?
Thought I'd do a similar check using Anquet. There seem to be some inaccuracies in height data in this area - Anquet seems to have Honister Crag/Black Star on the downslope, with the highest point nearer the marked path, i.e. no bump at all ! Does this mean that Anquet and MM are getting their height data from different sources, with MM being more accurate ?
Thought I'd do a similar check using Anquet. There seem to be some inaccuracies in height data in this area - Anquet seems to have Honister Crag/Black Star on the downslope, with the highest point nearer the marked path, i.e. no bump at all !
I wouldn't take any notice of that. Since the height data grid only has a resolution of 50m and Anquet average each point with the surrounding points, it's quite common for cliff edges to drop off prematurely. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Does this mean that Anquet and MM are getting their height data from different sources, with MM being more accurate ?
Maybe MM don't average with the surrounding points? I don't know.
Thought I'd do a similar check using Anquet. There seem to be some inaccuracies in height data in this area - Anquet seems to have Honister Crag/Black Star on the downslope, with the highest point nearer the marked path, i.e. no bump at all !
I wouldn't take any notice of that. Since the height data grid only has a resolution of 50m and Anquet average each point with the surrounding points, it's quite common for cliff edges to drop off prematurely. I wouldn't worry about it.
at least , not until you drop of the premature cliff that Anquet assured you was there :-)
