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  1. The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
    after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

    This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
    making this stuff, not health.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
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  2. I think you hit it right on the head Jenny. :-)

    --
    Cheri

    Jenny wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not


    all)

    Quoted message said:

    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body


    weight.

    Quoted message said:


    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2


    weeks

    Quoted message said:

    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is


    only

    Quoted message said:

    after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

    This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the


    company

    Quoted message said:

    making this stuff, not health.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2


    diabetes,

    Quoted message said:

    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

  3. Jenny wrote:
    ||
    || This is about people profiting from investment in the stock
    || of the company making this stuff, not health.
    ||

    Yep, another drug company con, with the willing support of
    the media, to scam money from people too lazy or weak to
    do what it takes to lose weight. It appears to be less effect
    than a lifestyle change, eating health and exercise.

    BJ

  4. Jenny,

    Did you get my personal email message??

    Carol Ann
    www.lowcarblosers.com ~ Home of the Monthly Weightloss Challenge!!
    175/170/125
    http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeBNnDdizZNmHy Pics of Morgan

    "Jenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body
    weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2
    weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
    after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

    This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
    making this stuff, not health.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
    diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

  5. Jenny said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
    after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

    This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
    making this stuff, not health.

    Reminds me of the premature announcement that a side effect of Prozac
    was weight loss.

    Several of my woman friends were EAGER to get a prescription.

    Later, the whole thing died. Only a few peoplle managed to lose much
    weight as a Prozac side effect.

    Maybe it was because they didn't do "Depression Pig-Out" eating.

    I could never find out more details of the weight loss flop.

    Jim

  6. Yeah, but it is the new miracle drug. lol To be honest, there are just too
    many people looking for a pill that will improve their lives somehow. What
    people don't seem to understand is that there are no shortcuts. Eat right
    and exercise and you can get where you want to go, as we most of us know
    here.

    Curt

    "Jenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body


    weight.

    Quoted message said:


    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2


    weeks

    Quoted message said:

    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
    after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

    This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the company
    making this stuff, not health.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2


    diabetes,

    Quoted message said:

    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

  7. Carol Ann,

    I didn't get your personal email. Did you remember to delete the "carbs"
    from the email address?

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Carol Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:6QMkd.86550$R05.35043@attbi_s53...

    Quoted message said:

    Jenny,

    Did you get my personal email message??

    Carol Ann
    www.lowcarblosers.com ~ Home of the Monthly Weightloss Challenge!!
    175/170/125
    http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeBNnDdizZNmHy Pics of Morgan

    "Jenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body
    weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2
    weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    Studies have shown that losing 5% of weight is easy. In fact, it is only
    after you hit that 5% that the body starts fighting back.

    This is about people profiting from investment in the stock of the


    company

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    making this stuff, not health.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2
    diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm


  8. Jenny said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
    (Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
    "pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
    smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
    cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
    weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
    possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
    consider that choice?

    --
    Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

    Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
    http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

  9. Rudy,

    Well, from the drug company perspective, this makes Accomplia the perfect
    drug. Once they sell you a drug that blocks the pleasure receptors, they can
    also addict you to an expensive antidepressant and mycoxiflopin. <g>

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "RRzVRR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jenny said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body


    weight.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2


    weeks

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
    (Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
    "pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
    smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
    cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
    weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
    possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
    consider that choice?

    --
    Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

    Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
    http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    RRzVRR said:
    Jenny said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
    (Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
    "pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
    smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
    cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
    weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
    possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
    consider that choice?

    Precisely. I was listening to "Science Friday" on NPR yesterday, and
    they were discussing it. Why oh why would someone be willing to reduce
    all pleasure in order to lose 5% of their body weight? Enormous price
    for a tiny size change. Our culture is sick.

    Priscilla

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    RRzVRR said:
    Jenny said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
    (Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
    "pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
    smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
    cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
    weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
    possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
    consider that choice?

    Precisely. I was listening to "Science Friday" on NPR yesterday, and
    they were discussing it. Why oh why would someone be willing to reduce
    all pleasure in order to lose 5% of their body weight? Enormous price
    for a tiny size change. Our culture is sick.

    Priscilla

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    RRzVRR said:
    Jenny said:

    The new weight loss drug getting all the press caused some (but not all)
    patients taking the highest dose to lose a whopping 5% of their body weight.

    So if you were 250 lbs, you'd lose 12 lbs--about what you'd lose in 2 weeks
    of induction. And you'd have to keep taking the (expensive) drug and
    suffering it's not inconsiderable side effects to keep it off.

    That is a far cry from miracle weight loss.

    The real Devil detail on the drug I believe you're writing about
    (Acomplia) is that it works by blocking some areas of your brains
    "pleasure" connections. The drug has also been used in helping
    smokers and alcoholics not enjoy their habits. But it can also
    cause symptoms of depression -- go figure, huh? Let's see, small
    weight loss ~verses~ difficulty experiencing pleasure and
    possible depression. What Devil could persuade a person to
    consider that choice?

    Precisely. I was listening to "Science Friday" on NPR yesterday, and
    they were discussing it. Why oh why would someone be willing to reduce
    all pleasure in order to lose 5% of their body weight? Enormous price
    for a tiny size change. Our culture is sick.

    Priscilla

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