new Bigha web site...

[email hidden] (Ernest) wrote in message
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Hey guys, I know this isn't a 'bent group, but since it's general

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But anyone who's seen the old site will be happy to hear that we completely did away with Flash!

Like you completely did away with BikeE?

I tried to post this once before, but Google apparently hiccupped.

I don't really get indignant over this sort of thing, as no doubt your're just trying to make a
living, but isn't your post just spam? Wouldn't this be more appropriate on
rec.bicycles.marketplace?

Because of the delay on Google postings, perhaps others have already pointed this out, and I just
don't know it.

Please reply only to newsgroup.

[email hidden] (Ernest) wrote in message
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Hey guys, I know this isn't a 'bent group, but since it's general interest and a lot of people
have asked commuting-related questions, I thought some folks might be interested.

We just launched an entirely new site at bigha.combigha.comOpen ↗

For those who've never seen it, the Bigha is a recumbent-style bike, though the seating position
is a good deal higher than it is on most recumbents.

What also makes it pretty unique is that it has completely integrated electronics (trip computer,
digital compass, altimeter, etc.) and lighting (the taillight actually lights up when you
brake--I still get a kick out of that, and both the head and taillight auto-illuminate as ambient
lighting drops).

It is at the top end of the 'bent spectrum at $3,000, but I think it offers some really unique
capabilities. It also completely changes your perspective on riding. I still love my road bike (a
Jamis Quest -- that's right, steel baby! ;-) and my mountain bike, but for daily commuting I
absolutely love my Bigha.

Hope this doesn't come across too "salesy." I'm just a huge fan of our bike and we all put a huge
amount of TLC into our new site.

A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the site is probably going to look
weird. We tried to be as inclusive as possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for Win/5 for
Mac, Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the experience we wanted
to deliver and still accomodate older browsers. Apologies in advance to you hold outs out there.

But anyone who's seen the old site will be happy to hear that we completely did away with Flash!

I did have some misgivings about posting here, but I decided to go ahead because I'm not really
trying to sell anyone anything (which is also why I didn't think it made sense to post it to
marketplace).

But that's why I wanted to make it clear that I work for the company. Maybe you think I'm a shill,
but I genuinely want feedback from other cyclists about our new site.

We're not some evil megalith of a corporation with hundreds of marketing minions that can go out and
do focus groups all around the world. We're just a handful of people who make a bike that we really
like and I, as someone who just put a lot of time into developing a new Web site, decided to see if
I could get some objective feedback from other people who like bikes.

And posting this message is something I did, personally, on my own time, as a human being who craves
feedback from other human beings.

If that's wrong then I guess I'll refrain from posting any more.

As for BikeE, I never worked for them, so I'm not privy to any inside info, but what I do know is
that they went out of business on their own--Bigha had nothing whatsoever to do with it (their
series of product recalls surely didn't help). The founder of Bigha, John Acres, wrote an in-depth
explanation that was published on Bentrideronline a little while back. If you're interested, you can
read it here bentrideronline.combigha.htmOpen ↗

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]

(Ernest) said:

A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the site is probably going to look
weird. We tried to be as inclusive as possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for Win/5 for
Mac, Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the experience we wanted
to deliver and still accomodate older browsers. Apologies in advance to you hold outs out there.

Later, I'll check and see how it comes across in Lynx. I guess I'm one of those Old School hold-outs
who still believes in backward compatibility. But then, I still believe in Vertical Development,
too. Pathetic, eh?

cheers, Tom

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In article said:

Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Ernest)

Quoted message said:

A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the site is probably going to
look weird. We tried to be as inclusive as possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for
Win/5 for Mac, Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the
experience we wanted to deliver and still accomodate older browsers. Apologies in advance to
you hold outs out there.

Later, I'll check and see how it comes across in Lynx. I guess I'm one of those Old School
hold-outs who still believes in backward compatibility. But then, I still believe in Vertical
Development, too. Pathetic, eh?

The Bigha web site looks terrible with Netscrape (sic) 4.76.

I've only got Netscrape 4.5 for Linux, under FreeBSD 4.1-Stable, Linux compatiblity.

Sorry, Bigha. I'm not even gonna try lookin'. You're too good and hi-falootin' for me.

cheers, Tom

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Tom Keats said:

Later, I'll check and see how it comes across in Lynx. I guess I'm one of those Old School
hold-outs who still believes in backward compatibility. But then, I still believe in Vertical
Development, too. Pathetic, eh?

Check out w3m. More configurable and shows pix when you want to. Husband (former lynx fan) loves it.
I switched to NS when web designers stopped designing for text-only users.

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government."
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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]

(Ernest) said:

A warning in advance, if you're using an older version browser the site is probably going to
look weird. We tried to be as inclusive as possible (tested against Internet Explorer 6 for
Win/5 for Mac, Mozilla for Win, and Safari for Mac), but we just couldn't deliver the experience
we wanted to deliver and still accomodate older browsers. Apologies in advance to you hold outs
out there.

Later, I'll check and see how it comes across in Lynx. I guess I'm one of those Old School
hold-outs who still believes in backward compatibility. But then, I still believe in Vertical
Development, too. Pathetic, eh?

The Bigha web site looks terrible with Netscrape (sic) 4.76.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

I missed the original post, but I want to encourage small and innovative manufactures to share
information with us. There is no way they can afford major advertising campaigns to get the
information available to us. As long as they want to share information and not sell us something,
they should be encouraged.

Bigha makes no sense to me because it is both expensive and extremely heavy. It is still interesting
to learn what they are doing.

Alan Acock [email hidden] "Ernest" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I did have some misgivings about posting here, but I decided to go ahead because I'm not really
trying to sell anyone anything (which is also why I didn't think it made sense to post it to
marketplace).

But that's why I wanted to make it clear that I work for the company. Maybe you think I'm a shill,
but I genuinely want feedback from other cyclists about our new site.

We're not some evil megalith of a corporation with hundreds of marketing minions that can go out
and do focus groups all around the world. We're just a handful of people who make a bike that we
really like and I, as someone who just put a lot of time into developing a new Web site, decided
to see if I could get some objective feedback from other people who like bikes.

And posting this message is something I did, personally, on my own time, as a human being who
craves feedback from other human beings.

If that's wrong then I guess I'll refrain from posting any more.

As for BikeE, I never worked for them, so I'm not privy to any inside info, but what I do know is
that they went out of business on their own--Bigha had nothing whatsoever to do with it (their
series of product recalls surely didn't help). The founder of Bigha, John Acres, wrote an in-depth
explanation that was published on Bentrideronline a little while back. If you're interested, you
can read it here bentrideronline.combigha.htmOpen ↗

Alan Acock said:

I missed the original post, but I want to encourage small and innovative manufactures to share
information with us. There is no way they can afford major advertising campaigns to get the
information available to us. As long as they want to share information and not sell us something,
they should be encouraged.

Bigha makes no sense to me because it is both expensive and extremely heavy. It is still
interesting to learn what they are doing.

The Bigha costs more than twice as much as other recumbents that are comparable in comfort and
performance, e.g. Burley Limbo, Cannondale Recumbent Bent II. $1500 US is a lot of money for the
integrated electronics on the Bigha.

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

"Alan Acock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<%k8yb.255791$275.931860@attbi_s53>...

Quoted message said:

I missed the original post, but I want to encourage small and innovative manufactures to share
information with us. There is no way they can afford major advertising campaigns to get the
information available to us. As long as they want to share information and not sell us something,
they should be encouraged.

Bigha makes no sense to me because it is both expensive and extremely heavy. It is still
interesting to learn what they are doing.

Well fair enough, but any sales pitch can be said to be "sharing information", if it tells you
enough about the product. When a post encourages you to go to a web page to find out about a
product, and the poster works for the company, it is trying to sell you something. That's not to say
that the product is bad, or that their site may not be interesting.

Tom Sherman <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Alan Acock said:

I missed the original post, but I want to encourage small and innovative manufactures to share
information with us. There is no way they can afford major advertising campaigns to get the
information available to us. As long as they want to share information and not sell us
something, they should be encouraged.

Bigha makes no sense to me because it is both expensive and extremely heavy. It is still
interesting to learn what they are doing.

The Bigha costs more than twice as much as other recumbents that are comparable in comfort and
performance, e.g. Burley Limbo, Cannondale Recumbent Bent II. $1500 US is a lot of money for the
integrated electronics on the Bigha.

Another reason us BikeE folks could care less about Bigha.