Never ride your bike at night,



In article <[email protected]>, usenet01
@artybee.net says...
> It says so here...
>
> http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0211500/bicyclequiz.html
>
> It seems one should also let cars and people go first!
>
> I note that it is not produced in the UK.

Amusingly it is self-contradictory.

1) Ride your bike at night - X - Drivers may not be able to see you at
night and you could get hit.
....
10) Only wear your helmet at night - X - Your chances of getting hurt at
night are just as good as getting hurt in the day.

Judging by the illustrations and the choice of font, I would suggest it
was produced by small children with the aid of a none-too-bright adult.

Jon
 
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:55:43 +0100 someone who may be Jon Senior
<jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote this:-

>Judging by the illustrations and the choice of font, I would suggest it
>was produced by small children with the aid of a none-too-bright adult.

The computer system on offer seems to be a way of getting small
children to make their own web sites.

None-too-bright adults are probably involved too, called teachers:)


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in message <[email protected]>, Richard Bates
('[email protected]') wrote:

> It says so here...
>
> http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0211500/bicyclequiz.html
>
> It seems one should also let cars and people go first!
>
> I note that it is not produced in the UK.

H'mmm! I used to be a ThinkQuest judge. I saw some very, very impressive
work indeed - but I have to confess this one did _not_ come to my
attention!

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in message <[email protected]>, Jon Senior
('jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove') wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, usenet01
> @artybee.net says...
>> It says so here...
>>
>> http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0211500/bicyclequiz.html
>>
>> It seems one should also let cars and people go first!
>>
>> I note that it is not produced in the UK.
>
> Amusingly it is self-contradictory.
>
> 1) Ride your bike at night - X - Drivers may not be able to see you at
> night and you could get hit.
> ...
> 10) Only wear your helmet at night - X - Your chances of getting hurt
> at night are just as good as getting hurt in the day.
>
> Judging by the illustrations and the choice of font, I would suggest
> it was produced by small children with the aid of a none-too-bright
> adult.

All thinkquest sites are produced exclusively by children. Many of them
are very impressive indeed. The amount of energy and creativity the
teams put in is extraordinary. What's more impressive is that the teams
behind the websites have often never met up; when I judged the 2000
competition in Geneva, it was for most teams the first time that all
the members of the team had ever actually seen each other. Some of the
entrants from former soviet and third world countries also had very
poor access to a computer - I remember one fourteen year old lad, from
(I think) Estonia, who had written some fairly sophisticated software
to drive his site in PHP (a language which he hadn't used before) in
pencil on paper because his grandfather's house where he had stayed for
the summer holidays had no electricity and his school had only one
computer shared between fifteen hundred pupils.

On another of the sites, to which we gave a significant prize, two of
the team had only email access, and had never actually seen their site
live until they got to Geneva for judging. They were incredibly
impressive kids.

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Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:

: poor access to a computer - I remember one fourteen year old lad, from
: (I think) Estonia, who had written some fairly sophisticated software
: to drive his site in PHP (a language which he hadn't used before) in
: pencil on paper because his grandfather's house where he had stayed for
: the summer holidays had no electricity and his school had only one
: computer shared between fifteen hundred pupils.

That's damm impressive. Hats off.

Arthur

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They're just what we call an enabling technology" - Danny O'Brien
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> That's damm impressive. Hats off.

In the C module I took at university, the examination was a closed book
programming exercise. While coding I've got used to being able to insert
a line between ones I've already written. Writing code on paper without
a computer is a wholly different art!

Jon
 
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:18:56 +0100 someone who may be Zog The
Undeniable <[email protected]> wrote this:-

>Probably because in a lot of US states, lights aren't compulsory.

Even a front light after dark?


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Jon Senior wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> That's damm impressive. Hats off.
>
> In the C module I took at university, the examination was a closed
> book programming exercise. While coding I've got used to being able
> to insert a line between ones I've already written. Writing code on
> paper without a computer is a wholly different art!
>
> Jon

Thats how it used to be in the old days. The programmer wrote it on coding
sheets, someone else typed it to produce your deck of cards. Once you had
the cards you could punch a new one and insert it where you needed to. When
I started professional programming we had to pre arrange time at a terminal
so most of our effort was done without a computer
 
In news:[email protected],
Jon Senior <jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, usenet01
> @artybee.net says...
>> It says so here...
>>
>> http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0211500/bicyclequiz.html
>>
>> It seems one should also let cars and people go first!
>>
>> I note that it is not produced in the UK.
>
> Amusingly it is self-contradictory.
>
> 1) Ride your bike at night - X - Drivers may not be able to see you at
> night and you could get hit.
> ...
> 10) Only wear your helmet at night - X - Your chances of getting hurt
> at night are just as good as getting hurt in the day.
>
> Judging by the illustrations and the choice of font, I would suggest
> it was produced by small children with the aid of a none-too-bright
> adult.
>
> Jon

They are 8 & 9 years old.
http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0211500/bicycle.html

I like the enigmatic rule 5;
"5. Keep both hands on the handlebars, except when
"

I'm still holding my breath.

http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0211500/about us.html tells all about
them, except which country they are from. By the names and hobbies, I would
guess USA.
--


Martin Bulmer
 
David Hansen wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:18:56 +0100 someone who may be Zog The
> Undeniable <[email protected]> wrote this:-
>
>
>>Probably because in a lot of US states, lights aren't compulsory.
>
>
> Even a front light after dark?
>
>
Depends on who you believe. A rear light certainly isn't compoulsory in
some states:

http://www.johnforester.com/Articles/lights.htm
 
Martin Newstead (MSeries) wrote:
> Jon Senior wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>> That's damm impressive. Hats off.
>>
>> In the C module I took at university, the examination was a
>> closed book programming exercise. While coding I've got used
>> to being able to insert a line between ones I've already
>> written. Writing code on paper without a computer is a wholly
>> different art!
>>
>> Jon
>
> Thats how it used to be in the old days. The programmer wrote
> it on coding sheets, someone else typed it to produce your
> deck of cards. Once you had the cards you could punch a new
> one and insert it where you needed to. When I started
> professional programming we had to pre arrange time at a
> terminal so most of our effort was done without a computer

That's how we learned to program in fortran 25 years ago. We used to keep
our programs on punched tape and there were very few VDUs so most of our
work was done on teletype machines. The best bit was if we needed some paper
we would put a loop in the program when we gave it to the technicians to
type. They would run the program and it would print lots of paper.
--
Mark

1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.
 
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:19:24 +0100 someone who may be Zog The
Undeniable <[email protected]> wrote this:-

>A rear light certainly isn't compoulsory in some states:

Eminently sensible. However, a front light warns others of the
approach of the vehicle.


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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:41:19 +0100, Jon Senior
<jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> That's damm impressive. Hats off.
>
>In the C module I took at university, the examination was a closed book
>programming exercise. While coding I've got used to being able to insert
>a line between ones I've already written. Writing code on paper without
>a computer is a wholly different art!

When I started programming, in COBOL, it was all done on coding sheets
then punched onto cards by data input clerks. If you had only a small
number of lines to code you could punch them directly onto the cards
yourself using a machine with a typewriter keyboard. Often, however,
there was a long wait for the machine especially at month end when the
operators were amending their job submission decks. You could get
round this by using a hand punch with twelve keys - one for each of
the rows on a Hollerith card. I got familiar enough with Hollerith
code that I could punch lines of COBOL directly onto the cards with
the hand punch, albeit slowly.

Kids today. Try telling them what it was like. Will they believe you?

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain
 
In article <[email protected]>, dkahn400
@yahoo.co.uk says...
> Kids today. Try telling them what it was like. Will they believe you?

But the real question is: Would you go back to your punched cards?

Jon
 
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:20:38 +0000, Dave Kahn wrote:

> the rows on a Hollerith card. I got familiar enough with Hollerith
> code that I could punch lines of COBOL directly onto the cards with
> the hand punch, albeit slowly.

The punch bureau we used in Nottingham in the early 1970s had a
supervisor who could turn out cards with a hand punch faster than anyone
else in the place using a keyboard.


Now please stop this thread, because you're bringing back unhappy
memories of having to punch my own JCL cards <shudder>.


Mike
 
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:36:29 +0100, Jon Senior
<jon@restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk.remove> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, dkahn400
>@yahoo.co.uk says...
>> Kids today. Try telling them what it was like. Will they believe you?
>
>But the real question is: Would you go back to your punched cards?

Of course not. Nor would I want to go back to the 3 day turn round for
a program compilation.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain
 
Dave Kahn wrote:
>
> When I started programming, in COBOL, it was all done on coding sheets
> then punched onto cards by data input clerks. If you had only a small
> number of lines to code you could punch them directly onto the cards
> yourself using a machine with a typewriter keyboard. Often, however,
> there was a long wait for the machine especially at month end when the
> operators were amending their job submission decks. You could get
> round this by using a hand punch with twelve keys - one for each of
> the rows on a Hollerith card. I got familiar enough with Hollerith
> code that I could punch lines of COBOL directly onto the cards with
> the hand punch, albeit slowly.
>
> Kids today. Try telling them what it was like. Will they believe you?
>

Eeh, sheer luxury!. When I were a lad I used to have to toggle the boot
programme in from the front panel switches.

Tony
 
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