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  1. No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over the
    crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even finished
    passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could do to brake
    in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel leaving the
    ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc, "just driving
    along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes and take out her
    rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury - but there was
    other traffic around so I thought twice about it.

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
    plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
    there. I only wish I had got her number.

  2. coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:

    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
    plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
    there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
    ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
    no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
    behind!

    [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...

  3. Alistair Gunn said:

    coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:

    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
    plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
    there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
    ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
    no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
    behind!

    [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!

    Its the whole schrodingers cyclist theory 😄

  4. Alistair Gunn said:

    coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:

    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
    plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
    there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
    ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
    no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
    behind!

    [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...

    yes i think that plays a part, had some one misread my speed in
    kingston a while back, nor did he notice the speed bump! well until he
    mounted it, made one hell of a noise. shock a few fillings out i
    guess. he ended up behind me at the lights in a funny angle really
    trying not to look my way.....

    roger

  5. roger merriman said the following on 28/08/2007 16:59:

    Quoted message said:

    he ended up behind me at the lights in a funny angle really
    trying not to look my way.....

    It's always funny watching someone who's desperately trying not to see
    you :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  6. "Alistair Gunn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:

    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
    plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
    there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
    ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
    no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
    behind!

    [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!
    --
    These opinions might not even be mine ...
    Let alone connected with my employer ...

    or Misjudged speed and thought you were miles back and you were in a blind
    area. (or Didn't look)
    or Just plain arsed up thought the junction was further away, then either
    forgot you were there (ie didn't look) and turnd left or didn't have the
    sense to abandon the overtaking manouver and make the turning manouver after
    you had passed the junction.
    or just a plain old [censored].

    I have in the past thought to my self, If i was on the other bike i would
    have hit them, thats not because it owuld be deliberate but because the
    brakes on it were badly adujsted at the time (now it has no wheels to brake
    against)

    Niall

  7. "coyoteboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over the
    crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even finished passing
    me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could do to brake in time,
    let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel leaving the ground in the
    effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc, "just driving along". I was
    sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes and take out her rear wing - im
    fairly good at falling without injury - but there was other traffic around
    so I thought twice about it.

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
    plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
    there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Having had this done by a bus - with 10 feet of it ahead of me, and 20 feet
    of it still behind me as he turned I tend to regard this as an act of
    malice. We were not at a junction, no lights, just a road with a left turn
    and someone that doesn't give a s&*t for my existence. Watching so many of
    the antics of these idiots would be boring if it wasn't my life at stake.

    'I don't have time to wait so you must die'.

    By the way, my favourites are the ones that nearly tear my arm off passing
    at 70mph, flying off across the road to reach the correct passing distance -
    25 yards ahead of me.

    But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
    behaviour.

    Nigel

  8. "Niall Wallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    or Misjudged speed and thought you were miles back and you were in a
    blind area. (or Didn't look)

    Or went through the typical thought process: Obstruction; pull out; done;
    what shall we have for tea; Tesco's; Left turn......

    Quoted message said:


    I have in the past thought to my self, If i was on the other bike i
    would have hit them, thats not because it owuld be deliberate but
    because the brakes on it were badly adujsted at the time (now it has
    no wheels to brake against)

    That's why I have brakes on my fixie. My leg brakes are not that good and
    I can't do the fancy courier braking stuff.

    --
    Tony

    " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
    Bertrand Russell

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (coyoteboy) said:

    No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
    the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
    finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
    do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
    leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
    "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
    and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
    - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
    me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
    wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.

    Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
    momentarily distracted.

  10. (Terry) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (coyoteboy) said:

    No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
    the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
    finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
    do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
    leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
    "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
    and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
    - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.

    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
    me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
    wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.

    Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
    momentarily distracted.

    It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
    (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
    young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
    great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
    little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
    have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
    generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

  11. CoyoteBoy said:
    (Terry) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (coyoteboy) said:

    No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
    the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
    finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
    do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
    leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
    "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
    and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
    - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.

    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
    me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
    wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.

    Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
    momentarily distracted.

    It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
    (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
    young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
    great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
    little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
    have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
    generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

    school runs are fairly obvous with the distracted parent etc.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  12. Paul Boyd usenet.is.worse@plusnet said:

    roger merriman said the following on 28/08/2007 16:59:

    Quoted message said:

    he ended up behind me at the lights in a funny angle really
    trying not to look my way.....

    It's always funny watching someone who's desperately trying not to see
    you :-)

    if your mean you look in there direction...

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  13. CoyoteBoy said:
    (Terry) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    (coyoteboy) said:

    No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
    the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
    finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
    do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
    leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
    "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
    and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
    - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
    me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
    wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.

    Quoted message said:

    Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.

    Quoted message said:

    Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
    momentarily distracted.

    It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
    (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
    young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
    great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
    little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
    have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
    generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

    You do seem to attract loons
    - remind me not to go anywhere near you when your cycling. Magnetic
    attraction or what?

    Sniper8052

  14. CoyoteBoy said:

    It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
    (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
    young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
    great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
    little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
    have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
    generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

    TBH I find the people most likely to cause me to take
    action to avoid collision are middle aged men. They also
    seem to be most likely to explode if I am in front of them
    on a road.

  15. Martin Dann said the following on 31/08/2007 00:39:

    Quoted message said:

    TBH I find the people most likely to cause me to take action to avoid
    collision are middle aged men. They also seem to be most likely to
    explode if I am in front of them on a road.

    These tend to be the same group of people who sit there seething in a
    traffic jam instead of just waiting it out - either of which results in
    getting nowhere but one of which raises stress levels to no end.

    Just look at them as imminent heart attack victims.

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  16. Nigel said:

    "coyoteboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
    behaviour.

    Who does this regarding cyclists?

    yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, part of the pavement is
    undulated (plenty of drops) so it was fun for him. He gets the the
    last one, as i'm coming level straight onto the road, no looking, no
    life saver, straight onto the road. Lucky for him I was going slow, he
    got a term of abuse via the window.

    This is only one week after a 15 was also involved in an accident, not
    200 mtrs away, road closed for hours. The kid is in a bad way (and
    likely to loose his leg) no update via local papers.

  17. On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one
    you know...http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/03.htm"

    Quoted message said:
    Nigel said:

    "coyoteboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
    behaviour.

    Who does this regarding cyclists?

    yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, part of the pavement is
    undulated (plenty of drops) so it was fun for him. He gets the the
    last one, as i'm coming level straight onto the road, no looking, no
    life saver, straight onto the road. Lucky for him I was going slow, he
    got a term of abuse via the window.

    Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

    Quoted message said:

    This is only one week after a 15 was also involved in an accident, not
    200 mtrs away, road closed for hours. The kid is in a bad way (and
    likely to loose his leg) no update via local paper.

    Are you implying this was the the victim's fault?

  18. Marc Brett said:

    On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one

    Quoted message said:

    yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, [...] no looking, no
    life saver, straight onto the road.

    Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

    If he'd been 6 I'd agree with you there, but a 12 year old ought to have
    enough nous to look behind him when changing path. He'll be doing GCSEs
    in only a year.

    Quoted message said:

    Lucky for him I was going slow, he got a term of abuse via the window.

    Of course what you meant to say here was "I had already identified him
    as a possible hazard so I was going slow", because if it was merely a
    matter of luck that you didn't hit him then your driving also sucks.

    -dan

  19. Daniel Barlow said:
    Marc Brett said:

    On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one

    Quoted message said:

    yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, [...] no looking, no
    life saver, straight onto the road.

    Quoted message said:

    Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

    If he'd been 6 I'd agree with you there, but a 12 year old ought to have
    enough nous to look behind him when changing path. He'll be doing GCSEs
    in only a year.

    Quoted message said:

    Lucky for him I was going slow, he got a term of abuse via the window.

    Of course what you meant to say here was "I had already identified him
    as a possible hazard so I was going slow", because if it was merely a
    matter of luck that you didn't hit him then your driving also sucks.

    -dan

    indeed, and since i didn't hit him (rather, he me...) I must be a very
    superior road user :-)

  20. Marc Brett said:

    On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one
    you know...http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/03.htm"

    Quoted message said:
    Nigel said:

    "coyoteboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
    behaviour.

    Quoted message said:

    Who does this regarding cyclists?

    Quoted message said:

    yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, part of the pavement is
    undulated (plenty of drops) so it was fun for him. He gets the the
    last one, as i'm coming level straight onto the road, no looking, no
    life saver, straight onto the road. Lucky for him I was going slow, he
    got a term of abuse via the window.

    Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

    KSI dosn't give a fig how old someone is.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This is only one week after a 15 was also involved in an accident, not
    200 mtrs away, road closed for hours. The kid is in a bad way (and
    likely to loose his leg) no update via local paper.

    Are you implying this was the the victim's fault?- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Are you implying it's not?

    Have we had the full details?
    Court case?

    no, well, especially since i implied nothing of the kind. Other than
    you would have though parents would give their kids a reminder to be
    carefull on the roads.

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