NCCAM still calling for alt.cancer methods to test

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Subject: NCCAM still calling for alt.cancer methods to test
From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
Date: 1/31/2004 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
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http://nccam.nih.gov/research/announcements/pa/index.htm#active

Clinical Cancer Therapy and Prevention Research
PA-04-046 (see addendum NOT-AT-04-004)
Release Date: 12/24/03
Expiration Date: 11/02/05, unless reissued
NCCAM is interested in applications to support research on efficacy and
correlated clinical or other markers for complementary and alternative
therapies including, but not limited to, the use of botanicals and other
natural products, alternative dietary approaches, complementary uses of
acupuncture, and energy and manipulative therapies.

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Also from an earlier announcemnet ----

http://grants2.nih.gov/grants/guide/pa-files/PA-00-047.html

In this a willingness was announced to fund Phase 1, 11, and 111 studies of
the following -----

(Anth, notice Coley's toxins and Burzynski's antineoplastins get specific
mention. )

---- New clinical therapeutic
trials may employ drugs, biologics, radiation, or surgery used as single
agents/modalities or in combination for the treatment of early and advanced
disease. In addition, clinical trials of CAM therapies for cancer
treatment, including, but not limited to, mind-body approaches (e.g.,
relaxation, imagery, meditation, psychosocial support groups, or
psychotherapy, etc. ), herbal therapies, dietary supplements, or
unconventional pharmacological and biological interventions (e.g.,
antineoplastons, Coley's toxin, enzyme therapies, etc.) will be considered.

(Get in quick to avoid the rush.???!!! Why are the claims so bold, but the
willingness to demonstrate them so weak?)

To avoid the hard heads like you with the:

*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *rubbish*

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Always ask your alt.cancer provider: "how many patients like me have you
treated, and what happened to them?" (and expect figures -you will be
paying at least $25000 per month and deserve to know )

Always ask your conventional doctor the exact same questions!!!!!

Here is an example of what you will get.

I have sat with my dear friend all week, she has had test after test, and three
cat scans, when the family asked for the results of these tests, they are given
a wave of the hand and told, *she is getting better, that's all you need to
know*!!!!!!!!!

Tell us all about it Peter Moran.

AFTER these clinical trials are done and the new is discovered, they will get
the same razzle, dazlel as you find right here on this newsgroups.

IOW's

*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *rubbish*

And 50 more years of same,,,,,

WHILE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO SUFFER AND DIE!!!!!

What counts is EOM maintaining their EGO, and the $$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan

Cool it would be nice to see Coley's tested again, but NCCAM's track record
is hardly anything to go by.
Anth

"Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://nccam.nih.gov/research/announcements/pa/index.htm#active

Clinical Cancer Therapy and Prevention Research
PA-04-046 (see addendum NOT-AT-04-004)
Release Date: 12/24/03
Expiration Date: 11/02/05, unless reissued
NCCAM is interested in applications to support research on efficacy and
correlated clinical or other markers for complementary and alternative
therapies including, but not limited to, the use of botanicals and other
natural products, alternative dietary approaches, complementary uses of
acupuncture, and energy and manipulative therapies.

-------------------------------
Also from an earlier announcemnet ----

http://grants2.nih.gov/grants/guide/pa-files/PA-00-047.html

In this a willingness was announced to fund Phase 1, 11, and 111 studies

of

Quoted message said:

the following -----

(Anth, notice Coley's toxins and Burzynski's antineoplastins get specific
mention. )

---- New clinical therapeutic
trials may employ drugs, biologics, radiation, or surgery used as single
agents/modalities or in combination for the treatment of early and

advanced

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disease. In addition, clinical trials of CAM therapies for cancer
treatment, including, but not limited to, mind-body approaches (e.g.,
relaxation, imagery, meditation, psychosocial support groups, or
psychotherapy, etc. ), herbal therapies, dietary supplements, or
unconventional pharmacological and biological interventions (e.g.,
antineoplastons, Coley's toxin, enzyme therapies, etc.) will be

considered.

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(Get in quick to avoid the rush.???!!! Why are the claims so bold, but

the

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willingness to demonstrate them so weak?)

Always ask your alt.cancer provider: "how many patients like me have you
treated, and what happened to them?" (and expect figures -you will be
paying at least $25000 per month and deserve to know )

Peter Moran

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Cool it would be nice to see Coley's tested again, but NCCAM's track

record

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is hardly anything to go by.

?? NCCAM does no research itself, it merely distributes funds to
applicants.

Peter Moran

I was refering to the fact that not much has come out of NCCAM - early days
maybe.
Anth

"Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Cool it would be nice to see Coley's tested again, but NCCAM's track

record

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is hardly anything to go by.

?? NCCAM does no research itself, it merely distributes funds to
applicants.

Peter Moran

"Anth" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
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I was refering to the fact that not much has come out of NCCAM - early

days

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maybe.
Anth

Likely. Considering that it'll take usually a year or more to start
publishing, if any publishable data comes from the research.

--
Robert Bronsing