Nation building

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Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Jobst Brandt

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw. Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our nation
and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore it.
There have been other nations where similar but smaller events were
perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting deeper so
every day.

Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw. Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our nation
and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore it.
There have been other nations where similar but smaller events were
perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting deeper so
every day.

Jobst Brandt

So, if there were explosives pre-installed to blow the buildings, why
bother with airplanes?

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R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw.

Yeah, that's the straw that broke the back, and this reluctance to even
investigate what happened in a public forum. The Secrecy behind the
initial clean up was creepy. Then the rush to dispose of everything at
Fresh Kills.

Quoted message said:

Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our nation
and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore it.
There have been other nations where similar but smaller events were
perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting deeper so
every day.

It's one hell of a Reichsdag fire, that's for sure.

The thing is, such a conspiracy would have to be so broad as to be
impossible to cover up. How do you prepare an occupied building for
demo w/o raising an eyebrow? The eyewitnesses aren't enough, we all
know how that stands in a court of law. People see and hear what they
want to see. Just put an idea in their head.

Still, there is a coverup of some sort. It smells to high heaven.
Especially Rice's recent lapses in memory concerning dire warnings
before the attacks.

Checked out part of the vid. It's not immediately dismissable as the
hack job "small change" and it does present the biggest question: where
are the building cores?

Now get back to your sex scandals folks, and put that silly Woodward
book down.

Quoted message said:

R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations.

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose and one only: cover for
the previous administration. (Just look at some of the self-interested
"commissioners" allowed to sit on the thing. Pathetic.)

WHAT DID SANDY BERGER STICK IN HIS PANTS WHEN HE STOLE FROM THE N-A, AND
WHAT DID HE "PUT BACK"?!? (Can you even /imagine/ if a Bushy did something
like that? It's ridiculous.)

Quoted message said:

The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw. Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

The responders are getting ill even today. Human remains, jet fuel,
concrete dust... horrible.

Only complete whack jobs believe this wild conspiracy theory. Welcome
aboard, JB! LOL

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R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw. Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our nation
and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore it.
There have been other nations where similar but smaller events were
perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting deeper so
every day.

Jobst Brandt

I bet you don't even believe the obvious beneficial strengthening
effect of tying and soldering the spokes on my bike wheels.

I'm burning your book!

BobT

Bill Sornson said:

Quoted message said:

R Brickston said:

> Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations.

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose and one only: cover for
the previous administration. (Just look at some of the self-interested
"commissioners" allowed to sit on the thing. Pathetic.)

Blame it on Clinton, eh? Brilliant. Explain how that makes the collosal
failures of your boy-king go away? How does it justify Rice's outright
lies about not getting dire and disturbing warnings of an imminent
attack with airplanes?

What did your boys do when Clinton fought long and hard to get strikes
against Bin Laden? They ridiculed him and said it was "wagging the
dog." He didn't get him, but he did his damndest considering the
limiting factor of the raging Pakistan-India war at the time. When he
was in office, the bottleneck was the Newt led partisan congress that
wore blinders. Perhaps you were in an alcoholic blackout back then?

Quoted message said:

WHAT DID SANDY BERGER STICK IN HIS PANTS WHEN HE STOLE FROM THE N-A, AND
WHAT DID HE "PUT BACK"?!? (Can you even /imagine/ if a Bushy did something
like that? It's ridiculous.)

Yeah, Bush just starts bogus wars of aggression which murder innocents,
guts the constitution, suspends habeus corpus for giggles, and condones
torture--even though it doesn't work. He rewards the wealthy, and [censored]
on the poor--all the while being worshiped by Jonestown true believers
like yourself. How's that Grape Flavorade? It must be strong to
translate the worst presidency of the United States into something
worthy of worship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_believer_syndrome

Bill Sornson said:

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose
and one only: cover for
the previous administration.

This is a great quote from you. It shows how blindly partisan you
are.

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landotter said:

Bill Sornson said:

Quoted message said:

R Brickston writes:

>> Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

> What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations.

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose and one only: cover for
the previous administration. (Just look at some of the self-interested
"commissioners" allowed to sit on the thing. Pathetic.)

Blame it on Clinton, eh? Brilliant. Explain how that makes the collosal
failures of your boy-king go away? How does it justify Rice's outright
lies about not getting dire and disturbing warnings of an imminent
attack with airplanes?

What did your boys do when Clinton fought long and hard to get strikes
against Bin Laden? They ridiculed him and said it was "wagging the
dog." He didn't get him, but he did his damndest considering the
limiting factor of the raging Pakistan-India war at the time. When he
was in office, the bottleneck was the Newt led partisan congress that
wore blinders. Perhaps you were in an alcoholic blackout back then?

Quoted message said:

WHAT DID SANDY BERGER STICK IN HIS PANTS WHEN HE STOLE FROM THE N-A, AND
WHAT DID HE "PUT BACK"?!? (Can you even /imagine/ if a Bushy did something
like that? It's ridiculous.)

Yeah, Bush just starts bogus wars of aggression which murder innocents,
guts the constitution, suspends habeus corpus for giggles, and condones
torture--even though it doesn't work. He rewards the wealthy, and [censored]
on the poor--all the while being worshiped by Jonestown true believers
like yourself. How's that Grape Flavorade? It must be strong to
translate the worst presidency of the United States into something
worthy of worship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_believer_syndrome

Yeah, it must have been a paranormal event that got Clinton elected in
the first place.

Quoted message said:

R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw. Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our nation
and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore it.
There have been other nations where similar but smaller events were
perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting deeper so
every day.

Jobst Brandt

I like this explanation a lot better:

http://tinyurl.com/ootzx

On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:53:35 GMT, R Brickston

Quoted message said:

I like this explanation a lot better:

http://tinyurl.com/ootzx

Thank you.

But keep in mind that unmasking Jobst as an hysterical conspiracy
theorist does not mean that Bill Sorenson and his ilk are anything
other than totally deranged, brainwashed, true believing morons.

Doug Taylor said:

On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:53:35 GMT, R Brickston

Quoted message said:

I like this explanation a lot better:

http://tinyurl.com/ootzx

Thank you.

But keep in mind that unmasking Jobst as an hysterical conspiracy
theorist does not mean that Bill Sorenson and his ilk are anything
other than totally deranged, brainwashed, true believing morons.

Well, you agree then that Nixon was one of the best US Presidents?

Doug Taylor said:

On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:53:35 GMT, R Brickston

Quoted message said:

I like this explanation a lot better:

http://tinyurl.com/ootzx

Thank you.

But keep in mind that unmasking Jobst as an hysterical conspiracy
theorist does not mean that Bill Sorenson and his ilk are anything
other than totally deranged, brainwashed, true believing morons.

Right. Jobst posts a 9-11 conspiracy theory on a cycling newsgroup -- not
once but twice -- and we're deranged. (And, since he used the Commission
Report in his mad rant, I commented on it. Shocking.)

R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events
put forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for
which the report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate
destruction and removal of all structural evidence is the final
straw. Demolition experts could in one glance recognize the
results of explosive effects on the core structure. It was such
dangerous hazardous material that only the wrecking crew could see
and touch it, if you believe that.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our
nation and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore
it. There have been other nations where similar but smaller events
were perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting
deeper so every day. Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

So, if there were explosives pre-installed to blow the buildings,
why bother with airplanes?

Cover for the actual event.

As I said, the scenario one can draw from this video is so damaging to
anything we believe in of our country that it defies people to
question "official" explanations, given by people who likewise
wouldn't consider another scenario. You will recall how even the
press ridiculed anyone who expressed doubt about the collapse of Bldgs
1 & 2 and 7 with was not hit by anything.

Take it upon yourself to look at the video with the possibility that
it was an inside job... without even worrying about who the "inside"
is for now.

Then consider:

http://tinyurl.com/z8k27

Jobst Brandt

Bill Sornson said:

Quoted message said:

R Brickston said:

> Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events put
forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for which the
report has no reasonable explanations.

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose and one only: cover for
the previous administration. (Just look at some of the self-interested
"commissioners" allowed to sit on the thing. Pathetic.)

WHAT DID SANDY BERGER STICK IN HIS PANTS WHEN HE STOLE FROM THE N-A, AND
WHAT DID HE "PUT BACK"?!? (Can you even /imagine/ if a Bushy did something
like that? It's ridiculous.)

Quoted message said:

The immediate destruction and
removal of all structural evidence is the final straw. Demolition
experts could in one glance recognize the results of explosive effects
on the core structure. It was such dangerous hazardous material that
only the wrecking crew could see and touch it, if you believe that.

The responders are getting ill even today. Human remains, jet fuel,
concrete dust... horrible....

Yet the EPA, under pressure from the White House, said the area was
safe, even though their scientists thought otherwise, so the Wall
Street financial district could reopen.

Yep, the administration is protecting the American people. [Not]

--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Bill Sornson said:

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose
and one only: cover for
the previous administration.

This is a great quote from you. It shows how blindly partisan you
are.

And your response shows how blind YOU are to the fact that Bill Clinton
is responsible for all evil dating back to the beginning of time. You
hater, you.

Fred Fredburger said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Bill Sornson said:

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose
and one only: cover for
the previous administration.

This is a great quote from you. It shows how blindly partisan you
are.

And your response shows how blind YOU are to the fact that Bill Clinton
is responsible for all evil dating back to the beginning of time. You
hater, you.

Bill Clinton is directly responsible for things going badly
in Iraq. If he had only managed to prevent 9/11, we
wouldn't have gotten into Iraq and over our heads.
See? It is very simple. Damn that vicious, machinating
Bill Clinton!

Quoted message said:

R Brickston said:

Quoted message said:

>> Technically speaking:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> What is your exact position on the premise of the video?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My inexact, non-personal opinion is:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It is more credible than any explanations for the chain of events
put forth in the 911 Commission Report. I shows many events for
which the report has no reasonable explanations. The immediate
destruction and removal of all structural evidence is the final
straw. Demolition experts could in one glance recognize the
results of explosive effects on the core structure. It was such
dangerous hazardous material that only the wrecking crew could see
and touch it, if you believe that.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This event is so sensitive for our nation that no one wants to face
its origins and purpose. It rattles at the fundamentals of our
nation and its government. The alternative is denial and to ignore
it. There have been other nations where similar but smaller events
were perpetrated for similar ends. We are at war and getting
deeper so every day. Jobst Brandt

Quoted message said:

So, if there were explosives pre-installed to blow the buildings,
why bother with airplanes?

Cover for the actual event.

As I said, the scenario one can draw from this video is so damaging to
anything we believe in of our country that it defies people to
question "official" explanations, given by people who likewise
wouldn't consider another scenario. You will recall how even the
press ridiculed anyone who expressed doubt about the collapse of Bldgs
1 & 2 and 7 with was not hit by anything.

Take it upon yourself to look at the video with the possibility that
it was an inside job... without even worrying about who the "inside"
is for now.

Then consider:

http://tinyurl.com/z8k27

Jobst Brandt

Where's Barbara Olson?

Fred Fredburger said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Bill Sornson said:

The 9-11 CR is a total joke. It served one purpose
and one only: cover for
the previous administration.

This is a great quote from you. It shows how blindly partisan you
are.

And your response shows how blind YOU are to the fact that Bill Clinton
is responsible for all evil dating back to the beginning of time. You
hater, you.

Carter. Jimmy Carter.
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JT
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