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  1. Morning all..

    Here's a question for you. One of the reasons I like drops is for their
    narrowness, it freaks me out to have my hands far apart like on usual
    straight handlebars.

    I'm just designing myself a new city/commuter bike (which is either
    going to be fixed, or maybe hub geared.. I haven't decided yet) and I'd
    like to put straights on it.

    A long time ago I saw a reference on this group to a source of narrow
    straight handlebars, but I can't seem to find it (or them!) anywhere.
    Does anybody know where I might find some straights that are relatively
    narrow?

    Thanks,

    Tom

  2. tom said:

    Morning all..

    Here's a question for you. One of the reasons I like drops is for
    their narrowness, it freaks me out to have my hands far apart like on
    usual straight handlebars.

    I'm just designing myself a new city/commuter bike (which is either
    going to be fixed, or maybe hub geared.. I haven't decided yet) and
    I'd like to put straights on it.

    A long time ago I saw a reference on this group to a source of narrow
    straight handlebars, but I can't seem to find it (or them!) anywhere.
    Does anybody know where I might find some straights that are
    relatively narrow?

    Get whatever bar you think is the best deal generally, then cut to taste
    with a hacksaw or junior hacksaw.

    ~PB

  3. tom said:

    I'm just designing myself a new city/commuter bike (which is either
    going to be fixed, or maybe hub geared.. I haven't decided yet) and I'd
    like to put straights on it.

    Out of curiosity, what frame?
    --
    Cheers,

    Steve

    The reply-to email address is a spam trap.
    Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk

  4. tom said:

    Morning all..

    Here's a question for you. One of the reasons I like drops is for
    their narrowness, it freaks me out to have my hands far apart like
    on usual straight handlebars.

    I have bar-ends on the straight bars of my MTB and after a while of
    riding the road bike and going back to the MTB, it feels like I'm
    flying in Superman position.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm just designing myself a new city/commuter bike (which is either
    going to be fixed, or maybe hub geared.. I haven't decided yet) and
    I'd like to put straights on it.

    A long time ago I saw a reference on this group to a source of
    narrow straight handlebars, but I can't seem to find it (or them!)
    anywhere. Does anybody know where I might find some straights that
    are relatively narrow?

    Unless you go down the route of carbon bars, you can probably just cut
    the excess off with a pipe cutter.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  5. tom said:

    Morning all..

    Here's a question for you. One of the reasons I like drops is for their
    narrowness, it freaks me out to have my hands far apart like on usual
    straight handlebars.

    I'm just designing myself a new city/commuter bike (which is either
    going to be fixed, or maybe hub geared.. I haven't decided yet) and I'd
    like to put straights on it.

    A long time ago I saw a reference on this group to a source of narrow
    straight handlebars, but I can't seem to find it (or them!) anywhere.
    Does anybody know where I might find some straights that are relatively
    narrow?

    http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/616-2613

    Its a simple job, and you might even find someone with a spare handlebar
    with mangled ends they don't want which might be suitable.

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, tom

    (') said:

    Morning all..

    Here's a question for you. One of the reasons I like drops is for their
    narrowness, it freaks me out to have my hands far apart like on usual
    straight handlebars.

    I'm just designing myself a new city/commuter bike (which is either
    going to be fixed, or maybe hub geared.. I haven't decided yet) and I'd
    like to put straights on it.

    A long time ago I saw a reference on this group to a source of narrow
    straight handlebars, but I can't seem to find it (or them!) anywhere.
    Does anybody know where I might find some straights that are relatively
    narrow?

    Straight handlebars are sold in the expectation that you will cut them down
    to length; the handlebars on my Cannondale are now 120mm shorter than as
    supplied. A tube cutter will make a neat job of aluminium bars; you really
    need a hacksaw for carbon fibre bars and steel bars are a lot easier to
    cut with a hacksaw.

    Remember to cut exactly the same amount off both ends!

    --
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  7. "tom" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    A long time ago I saw a reference on this group to a source of narrow
    straight handlebars, but I can't seem to find it (or them!) anywhere.
    Does anybody know where I might find some straights that are relatively
    narrow?

    A hacksaw?

    A long time ago you may have seen this
    http://bikesite.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page8.html

    I have changed it since then. I decided the bars were too narrow and the
    brakes were ineffective.

    The reason for the ineffective brakes was that I had put the bodies
    slightly too far back so the levers were getting too close to the bar. In
    order to correct this it was necessary to move the bodies forward slightly
    which made it necessary to rebind the bar. However, I wasn't happy with the
    feel either so I thought I would try
    conventional levers (for the bar type). This does require a longer bar. So
    the bar in the picture is 41cm against 47cm needed to accomodate the new
    levers. My riding hand separation hasn't changed.

    I now realise why brakes on drop bars are so spongy. I
    originally thought that is was down to flexing of the arms of the dual
    pivot sidepulls. In fact it is the brake levers that have different
    ratios of stroke to cable pull - flat bar levers are lower [*]. I had not
    realised this before and, although this gives the flat bar levers a lower
    mechanical advantage, the reduced lever movement gives a much tighter and
    responsive action.

    Unfortunately there is a downside - the bar mounted levers are not so well
    placed because a slight hand movement is needed from the main riding
    position (though nowhere near as much as needed on drop bars) and hill
    climbing is now not so good because the bar mounted brake bodies give less
    space to hook the fingers under the bar ends.

    [*] Not to be confused with V brake levers with an even lower ratio.

  8. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, tom
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Straight handlebars are sold in the expectation that you will cut them
    down
    to length; the handlebars on my Cannondale are now 120mm shorter than as
    supplied. A tube cutter will make a neat job of aluminium bars; you really
    need a hacksaw for carbon fibre bars and steel bars are a lot easier to
    cut with a hacksaw.

    Remember to cut exactly the same amount off both ends!

    Alternatively, if you want to keep the ends looking neat, cut a bit out of
    the middle.
    Peter

  9. in message <[email hidden]>, DavidR

    (') said:

    I now realise why brakes on drop bars are so spongy. I
    originally thought that is was down to flexing of the arms of the dual
    pivot sidepulls. In fact it is the brake levers that have different
    ratios of stroke to cable pull - flat bar levers are lower [*]. I had not
    realised this before and, although this gives the flat bar levers a lower
    mechanical advantage, the reduced lever movement gives a much tighter and
    responsive action.

    You've never ridden a Campagnolo equipped bike, have you?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; If you're doing this for fun, do what seems fun. If you're
    ;; doing it for money, stop now.
    ;; Rainer Deyke


  10. Quoted message said:

    A long time ago you may have seen this
    http://bikesite.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page8.html

    Magic - I'm pretty sure that's the photo I recognise. Thanks!

    And thanks all for the tips, I thought about chopping them down as an
    alternative, but I'm always a bit uncertain about solutions like
    that..but given that so many of you recommended it, that is what I'll
    do.

    It's going to be a while before I get motivated into actually building
    the bike (I'm intending to use an old frame resprayed, and haven't
    decided on the geometry just yet..). I'm just at the dreaming stage at
    the moment, but as the summer draws closer, I'll get more info the idea
    - I'm sure 🙂

    Tom

  11. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    DavidR (') said:

    I now realise why brakes on drop bars are so spongy. I
    originally thought that is was down to flexing of the arms of the dual
    pivot sidepulls. In fact it is the brake levers that have different
    ratios of stroke to cable pull - flat bar levers are lower [*]. I had
    not
    realised this before and, although this gives the flat bar levers a
    lower
    mechanical advantage, the reduced lever movement gives a much tighter
    and
    responsive action.

    You've never ridden a Campagnolo equipped bike, have you?

    So you're trying to say that they work better than other popular types? OK.
    Explain.

  12. Pete Biggs said:
    tom said:

    Morning all..

    Here's a question for you. One of the reasons I like drops is for
    their narrowness, it freaks me out to have my hands far apart like on
    usual straight handlebars.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Does anybody know where I might find some straights that are
    relatively narrow?

    Get whatever bar you think is the best deal generally, then cut to taste
    with a hacksaw or junior hacksaw.

    A much better bet is a pipe cutter. Straight cuts and no jags.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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