Name this hip injury

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I know all the running injuries, but this one is new to me. Have you had
this? What did you do?

Two months ago after riding my bike on a particularly hard climb (for me)
I hurt my right hip on the outside, near the tensor fascii latae. Rest,
massage and stretching helped and for weeks at a time it would not bother
me or only bother me for a day or two after a hard climb or hard run.

Last week-end I did a fabulous job climbing a huge hill during a
triathlon - standing in the pedals, making good time, really mashing up
the hill. But then I had nothing left for the run. My right hip hurt
with every footfall. (I ran it anyway, just in cruddy time.) I've spent
the past week icing it, resting it (except for swimming, which doesn't
hurt it) and still it hurts every time I walk up a stair, especially if
I'm carrying something (like a kid.) :-( Sometimes it just hurts when I'm
sitting still.

It no longer seems limited to the band on the outside of the hip, now it
hurts in the front and rear of the hipbone where the hip abductor and
sartorius attach (I think). In fact, grabbing my hipbone with my hand and
supporting that area as I walk appears to help. It is stiff and sore
after being seated and gets better if I stroll around a bit. Ibuprofin
helps. Crossing my left and jutting out my hip is terribly painful.

Is there something else I ought to be doing besides icing, stretching,
resting and putting Icy Hot on it at night? I'm doing all the iliotibial
band and hip flexor stretches.

My HMO considers me to be in fabulous shape and isn't interested in
hearing about how I'd rather be able to run farther/faster. I also
believe the Yiddish saying "God heals and doctors send the bills" so I
haven't attempted to go pay someone to tell me to rest this, even assuming
I was able to find anyone. But is there something I'm missing? This
injury isn't in any of my running books. It does not feel like DOMS, it
does not throb at night like tendonitis, it mostly feels like plantar
fasciitis or a torn muscle.

Does this sound like something you've had experience with? Can you tell
me what worked and/or didn't work for you?

Dally

Research ITB (ilio-tibial band syndrome). I may not have the spelling
right.

I have heard that the pain can be outside of the knee and/or hip. I
experienced it when I dramatically increased workout duration and intensity
for several weeks. ITB basically shut down the season for me.

rsquared

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I know all the running injuries, but this one is new to me. Have you had
this? What did you do?

Two months ago after riding my bike on a particularly hard climb (for me)
I hurt my right hip on the outside, near the tensor fascii latae. Rest,
massage and stretching helped and for weeks at a time it would not bother
me or only bother me for a day or two after a hard climb or hard run.

Last week-end I did a fabulous job climbing a huge hill during a
triathlon - standing in the pedals, making good time, really mashing up
the hill. But then I had nothing left for the run. My right hip hurt
with every footfall. (I ran it anyway, just in cruddy time.) I've spent
the past week icing it, resting it (except for swimming, which doesn't
hurt it) and still it hurts every time I walk up a stair, especially if
I'm carrying something (like a kid.) :-( Sometimes it just hurts when I'm
sitting still.

It no longer seems limited to the band on the outside of the hip, now it
hurts in the front and rear of the hipbone where the hip abductor and
sartorius attach (I think). In fact, grabbing my hipbone with my hand and
supporting that area as I walk appears to help. It is stiff and sore
after being seated and gets better if I stroll around a bit. Ibuprofin
helps. Crossing my left and jutting out my hip is terribly painful.

Is there something else I ought to be doing besides icing, stretching,
resting and putting Icy Hot on it at night? I'm doing all the iliotibial
band and hip flexor stretches.

My HMO considers me to be in fabulous shape and isn't interested in
hearing about how I'd rather be able to run farther/faster. I also
believe the Yiddish saying "God heals and doctors send the bills" so I
haven't attempted to go pay someone to tell me to rest this, even assuming
I was able to find anyone. But is there something I'm missing? This
injury isn't in any of my running books. It does not feel like DOMS, it
does not throb at night like tendonitis, it mostly feels like plantar
fasciitis or a torn muscle.

Does this sound like something you've had experience with? Can you tell
me what worked and/or didn't work for you?

Dally

Try this: Iliotibial Band Syndrome (A.K.A. ITB)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iliotibial+band+syndrome&spell=1

"At the end of the IT band nearest the hip, another condition can occur,
which is called, "IT band subluxation." This condition is usually a minor
annoyance because it causes a snapping sensation like a snapping rubber
band, but usually does not cause much pain."

Dally said:

I know all the running injuries, but this one is new to me. Have you
had this? What did you do?

Two months ago after riding my bike on a particularly hard climb (for
me) I hurt my right hip on the outside, near the tensor fascii latae.
Rest, massage and stretching helped and for weeks at a time it would not
bother me or only bother me for a day or two after a hard climb or hard
run.

Last week-end I did a fabulous job climbing a huge hill during a
triathlon - standing in the pedals, making good time, really mashing up
the hill. But then I had nothing left for the run. My right hip hurt
with every footfall. (I ran it anyway, just in cruddy time.) I've
spent the past week icing it, resting it (except for swimming, which
doesn't hurt it) and still it hurts every time I walk up a stair,
especially if I'm carrying something (like a kid.) :-( Sometimes it
just hurts when I'm sitting still.

It no longer seems limited to the band on the outside of the hip, now it
hurts in the front and rear of the hipbone where the hip abductor and
sartorius attach (I think). In fact, grabbing my hipbone with my hand
and supporting that area as I walk appears to help. It is stiff and
sore after being seated and gets better if I stroll around a bit.
Ibuprofin helps. Crossing my left and jutting out my hip is terribly
painful.

Is there something else I ought to be doing besides icing, stretching,
resting and putting Icy Hot on it at night? I'm doing all the
iliotibial band and hip flexor stretches.

My HMO considers me to be in fabulous shape and isn't interested in
hearing about how I'd rather be able to run farther/faster. I also
believe the Yiddish saying "God heals and doctors send the bills" so I
haven't attempted to go pay someone to tell me to rest this, even
assuming I was able to find anyone. But is there something I'm missing?
This injury isn't in any of my running books. It does not feel like
DOMS, it does not throb at night like tendonitis, it mostly feels like
plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle.

Does this sound like something you've had experience with? Can you tell
me what worked and/or didn't work for you?

Dally

I think it was AUS/NZ Runners World just had an article on this. Other
possible causes of the hip pain (aside from ITB friction or tendonitis)
were listed as bursitis, which is swelling of the bursa, a little
lubricating sac, and a stress fracture. Tendonitis doesn't always throb
at night, depends on where it is. DOMS would go away. (Plantar fasciitis
often occurs at the same time as hip problems, but it's a foot problem.)

Tam

Dally said:

I know all the running injuries, but this one is new to me. Have you
had this? What did you do?

Two months ago after riding my bike on a particularly hard climb (for
me) I hurt my right hip on the outside, near the tensor fascii latae.
Rest, massage and stretching helped and for weeks at a time it would not
bother me or only bother me for a day or two after a hard climb or hard
run.

Last week-end I did a fabulous job climbing a huge hill during a
triathlon - standing in the pedals, making good time, really mashing up
the hill. But then I had nothing left for the run. My right hip hurt
with every footfall. (I ran it anyway, just in cruddy time.) I've
spent the past week icing it, resting it (except for swimming, which
doesn't hurt it) and still it hurts every time I walk up a stair,
especially if I'm carrying something (like a kid.) :-( Sometimes it
just hurts when I'm sitting still.

It no longer seems limited to the band on the outside of the hip, now it
hurts in the front and rear of the hipbone where the hip abductor and
sartorius attach (I think). In fact, grabbing my hipbone with my hand
and supporting that area as I walk appears to help. It is stiff and
sore after being seated and gets better if I stroll around a bit.
Ibuprofin helps. Crossing my left and jutting out my hip is terribly
painful.

Is there something else I ought to be doing besides icing, stretching,
resting and putting Icy Hot on it at night? I'm doing all the
iliotibial band and hip flexor stretches.

My HMO considers me to be in fabulous shape and isn't interested in
hearing about how I'd rather be able to run farther/faster. I also
believe the Yiddish saying "God heals and doctors send the bills" so I
haven't attempted to go pay someone to tell me to rest this, even
assuming I was able to find anyone. But is there something I'm missing?
This injury isn't in any of my running books. It does not feel like
DOMS, it does not throb at night like tendonitis, it mostly feels like
plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle.

Does this sound like something you've had experience with? Can you tell
me what worked and/or didn't work for you?

Dally

I think it was AUS/NZ Runners World just had an article on this. Other
possible causes of the hip pain (aside from ITB friction or tendonitis)
were listed as bursitis, which is swelling of the bursa, a little
lubricating sac, and a stress fracture. Tendonitis doesn't always throb
at night, depends on where it is. DOMS would go away. (Plantar fasciitis
often occurs at the same time as hip problems, but it's a foot problem.)

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

I think it was AUS/NZ Runners World just had an article on this. Other
possible causes of the hip pain (aside from ITB friction or tendonitis)
were listed as bursitis, which is swelling of the bursa, a little
lubricating sac, and a stress fracture.

I figure a stress fracture works out to the same treatment as
microtears: rest until it doesn't hurt.

Quoted message said:

(Plantar fasciitis
often occurs at the same time as hip problems, but it's a foot problem.)

Yes, I know that one. BTDT. The pain was similar in some respects,
that's all I meant.

Dally

Tamyka Bell said:

I think it was AUS/NZ Runners World just had an article on this. Other
possible causes of the hip pain (aside from ITB friction or tendonitis)
were listed as bursitis, which is swelling of the bursa, a little
lubricating sac, and a stress fracture.

I figure a stress fracture works out to the same treatment as
microtears: rest until it doesn't hurt.

Quoted message said:

(Plantar fasciitis
often occurs at the same time as hip problems, but it's a foot problem.)

Yes, I know that one. BTDT. The pain was similar in some respects,
that's all I meant.

Dally

Dally said:

Tamyka Bell said:

I think it was AUS/NZ Runners World just had an article on this. Other
possible causes of the hip pain (aside from ITB friction or tendonitis)
were listed as bursitis, which is swelling of the bursa, a little
lubricating sac, and a stress fracture.

I figure a stress fracture works out to the same treatment as
microtears: rest until it doesn't hurt.

I've got flexor hallicus longus tendinitis at the moment. Or a stress
fracture. Either way it's rest... so yeah, like you, I'm not too fussed
about specifics!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(Plantar fasciitis
often occurs at the same time as hip problems, but it's a foot problem.)

Yes, I know that one. BTDT. The pain was similar in some respects,
that's all I meant.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound patronising 🙂 I actually figured that was
what you meant but was concerned others might read it and go into their
specialists with plantar fasciitis of the hip LOL.

As for the ITB... which you're well aware of, are you using tennis
ball/muscle mate etc on it and on the not-too-sore-bits of TFL and
Glutes? Also, do you use orthotics?

Tam

Dally said:

I know all the running injuries, but this one is new to me. Have you
had this? What did you do?

Two months ago after riding my bike on a particularly hard climb (for
me) I hurt my right hip on the outside, near the tensor fascii latae.
Rest, massage and stretching helped and for weeks at a time it would not
bother me or only bother me for a day or two after a hard climb or hard
run.

Last week-end I did a fabulous job climbing a huge hill during a
triathlon - standing in the pedals, making good time, really mashing up
the hill. But then I had nothing left for the run. My right hip hurt
with every footfall. (I ran it anyway, just in cruddy time.) I've
spent the past week icing it, resting it (except for swimming, which
doesn't hurt it) and still it hurts every time I walk up a stair,
especially if I'm carrying something (like a kid.) :-( Sometimes it
just hurts when I'm sitting still.

It no longer seems limited to the band on the outside of the hip, now it
hurts in the front and rear of the hipbone where the hip abductor and
sartorius attach (I think). In fact, grabbing my hipbone with my hand
and supporting that area as I walk appears to help. It is stiff and
sore after being seated and gets better if I stroll around a bit.
Ibuprofin helps. Crossing my left and jutting out my hip is terribly
painful.

Is there something else I ought to be doing besides icing, stretching,
resting and putting Icy Hot on it at night? I'm doing all the
iliotibial band and hip flexor stretches.

My HMO considers me to be in fabulous shape and isn't interested in
hearing about how I'd rather be able to run farther/faster. I also
believe the Yiddish saying "God heals and doctors send the bills" so I
haven't attempted to go pay someone to tell me to rest this, even
assuming I was able to find anyone. But is there something I'm missing?
This injury isn't in any of my running books. It does not feel like
DOMS, it does not throb at night like tendonitis, it mostly feels like
plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle.

Does this sound like something you've had experience with? Can you tell
me what worked and/or didn't work for you?

Dally

I had something similar last year - wasn't able to run properly for 3
or 4 months - would ice, rest and stretch the hip for a few weeks, try
a gentle run and be in too much pain to continue within 15 minutes.
Only thing that eventually solved it was taking a couple of months off
all training except swimming, and even now, over a year since I first
had the problem, I still have the occasional twinge and have to stop to
stretch it out or else cut a session short and not run for a couple of
days.

I saw a physio, chiropractor and osteopath to try and get it sorted but
despite various theories none of them were able to provide more than
temporary relief. Theories included everything from those mentioned
above (ITBS and stress fracture) to more bizarre ideas - tilted pelvis,
weak hip flexors caused by neck or back misalignment, etc. Most
bizarre one was chiropractor suggesting that tight cranial muscles,
particularly around the jaw, were limiting the circulation of spinal
fluid to the bottom of the spine, and hence the hips, which could be
causing the hip muscles to spasm and not flex properly. She gave me a
jaw and head massage and also suggested that the problems I was having
with my wisdom teeth at the time could be a factor. Amazing thing is
that the problem improved after the massage and largely cleared up
after I had the teeth out a month later but probably a coincidence!

Suggest you avoid running as much as possible while it still hurts, my
attempts to start training again before the problem cleared up
generally resulted in a lot more pain. One stretch I found which
relieved it (although very difficult to do at first) was, while sitting
at work, to cross the ankle of the problem leg across the other knee,
and then lean forward with straight back to stretch the hip area.

Rookie said:

I had something similar last year - wasn't able to run properly for 3
or 4 months - would ice, rest and stretch the hip for a few weeks, try
a gentle run and be in too much pain to continue within 15 minutes.
Only thing that eventually solved it was taking a couple of months off
all training except swimming, and even now, over a year since I first
had the problem, I still have the occasional twinge and have to stop to
stretch it out or else cut a session short and not run for a couple of
days.

Thanks for sharing this story. It sounds familiar.

Quoted message said:

I saw a physio, chiropractor and osteopath to try and get it sorted but
despite various theories none of them were able to provide more than
temporary relief.

I do not enjoy the process of trying to get others to heal me for me.
It has always been my experience that sports injuries need rest and ice
and stretches and weight-training. Doctors have shots and surgeries in
their arsenal. I've often considered exploring eastern medicines that
would address sending healing energy to that area, but I can't quite
replace "hope" with "faith" enough to go pay for it.

Quoted message said:

Suggest you avoid running as much as possible while it still hurts, my
attempts to start training again before the problem cleared up
generally resulted in a lot more pain. One stretch I found which
relieved it (although very difficult to do at first) was, while sitting
at work, to cross the ankle of the problem leg across the other knee,
and then lean forward with straight back to stretch the hip area.

Thanks for the stretch. What do you think of cycling? I've been scared
to bike because I'm pretty sure that's where I hurt myself. The
original injury and the worst re-injuries have all come from times when
I was hammering hard on hills. I feel it with every footfall on the
run, but I'm pretty sure that isn't what caused the injury. (How about
THAT for a change, an injury NOT caused by running?)

In a related whine, I'm 40 years old an never, ever get more than two or
three months of running training before some injury sidelines me. Shin
splints or tendonitis or plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle or just
unknown knee or ankle pain. It's practically a joke that I want to be a
runner because I spend months of EVERY YEAR out with one damn thing
after another. (This is my first time with hip pain and it's on my
"good" side for a change.)

I have pitiful mileage (I go out three or four times a week for 1 to 4
miles, so I top out at about 12 miles a week) and I strength train and I
cross-train and always have new shoes and I run on a pine-needle and
dirt trail. I've been steadily losing weight but I'm still heavy for a
runner. I spent some time being a powerlifter and got tendonitis in my
shoulder that I just can't shake (and limits my swimming time.)

Is there some way to manage my prone-ness to over-use-injuries? I feel
like I'm one big imflamation waiting to happen.

Dally

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I saw a physio, chiropractor and osteopath to try and get it sorted but
despite various theories none of them were able to provide more than
temporary relief.

I do not enjoy the process of trying to get others to heal me for me.
It has always been my experience that sports injuries need rest and ice
and stretches and weight-training. Doctors have shots and surgeries in
their arsenal. I've often considered exploring eastern medicines that
would address sending healing energy to that area, but I can't quite
replace "hope" with "faith" enough to go pay for it.

I found doctors aren't much good as they don't take you seriously when
you're still walking around, going to work and doing twice as much
exercise as all their other patients but complaining that you're
injured!

I found a great chiropractor who seems able to help with most things
and always gives me something positive I can do to recover or prevent
future problems. She has a background in physiotherapy and sports
nutrition and is also a keen sportswoman herself so blends advice and
experience from all sorts of different fields.

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the stretch. What do you think of cycling? I've been scared
to bike because I'm pretty sure that's where I hurt myself. The
original injury and the worst re-injuries have all come from times when
I was hammering hard on hills. I feel it with every footfall on the
run, but I'm pretty sure that isn't what caused the injury. (How about
THAT for a change, an injury NOT caused by running?)

I could cycle ok, but found that it helped to stop and stretch out the
hips every hour or so. In particular, cycling in the aero position
caused me a few problems as the angle between the torso and upper leg
is so acute. Being in the aero position for a long time without
stretching caused a lot of tightness in the hip flexors which seemed to
aggravate the running problem.

Quoted message said:

In a related whine, I'm 40 years old an never, ever get more than two or
three months of running training before some injury sidelines me. Shin
splints or tendonitis or plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle or just
unknown knee or ankle pain. It's practically a joke that I want to be a
runner because I spend months of EVERY YEAR out with one damn thing
after another. (This is my first time with hip pain and it's on my
"good" side for a change.)

I have pitiful mileage (I go out three or four times a week for 1 to 4
miles, so I top out at about 12 miles a week) and I strength train and I
cross-train and always have new shoes and I run on a pine-needle and
dirt trail. I've been steadily losing weight but I'm still heavy for a
runner. I spent some time being a powerlifter and got tendonitis in my
shoulder that I just can't shake (and limits my swimming time.)

Is there some way to manage my prone-ness to over-use-injuries? I feel
like I'm one big imflamation waiting to happen.

Dally

I have similar problems, not helped by the fact that on top of
triathlon I also enjoy mountain biking, skiing and surfing and play the
occasional game of rugby - all of which tend to give the body a bit of
a beating. (injuries in the last couple of years have included
dislocated shoulder, cracked ribs, right knee, left hip, right ankle,
lower back, broken thumb, strained diaphragm and a couple of stitches
in my head - need I go on?!)

Following things help me to avoid injury:
- lots of flexibility work. Try to do yoga whenever possible but is
normally the first thing to get dropped if I'm short of time
- core strength (i.e. abs and lower back) - helps keep everything
together
- regular (every couple of months) visits to the chiropractor who keeps
everything pretty much in line
- keeping my weight down
- nutrition and rest - sounds obvious but a lot of my injuries have
cropped up when I'm not eating properly or getting enough sleep,
particularly recovery time from tough sessions

Running is also my bubear, particular running advice is:
- forefoot running has helped me. I now land on forefoot or midfoot
not heel, and keep stride shorter and cadence higher than I used to
- don't schedule long or high-intensity runs on consecutive days, or
even short and easy runs if it can be avoided
- build up running volume and max distance gradually
- take an ice bath after a hard run
- substitute some runs (particularly in off season) with sessions on
the cross trainer in the gym. Not as specific as running but works
similar muscle groups with no impact
- never run if it feels like it's doing damage. Even if this means
taking a few weeks off running. Substitue extra cycling or swimming,
or cross-trainer work, or even something like a rowing machine. Far
better to turn up at a race injury-free and fit but a little short on
run-work than to turn up knowing that you've done the running mileage
but that your knee/hip/hamstring, etc is going to be agony. I went
through a stage of having Ibuprofen in my transition area to get me
through the run and it's really not a good idea!

Dally said:

Rookie said:

I had something similar last year - wasn't able to run properly for 3
or 4 months - would ice, rest and stretch the hip for a few weeks, try
a gentle run and be in too much pain to continue within 15 minutes.
Only thing that eventually solved it was taking a couple of months off
all training except swimming, and even now, over a year since I first
had the problem, I still have the occasional twinge and have to stop to
stretch it out or else cut a session short and not run for a couple of
days.

Thanks for sharing this story. It sounds familiar.

Quoted message said:

I saw a physio, chiropractor and osteopath to try and get it sorted but
despite various theories none of them were able to provide more than
temporary relief.

I do not enjoy the process of trying to get others to heal me for me.
It has always been my experience that sports injuries need rest and ice
and stretches and weight-training. Doctors have shots and surgeries in
their arsenal. I've often considered exploring eastern medicines that
would address sending healing energy to that area, but I can't quite
replace "hope" with "faith" enough to go pay for it.

Quoted message said:

Suggest you avoid running as much as possible while it still hurts, my
attempts to start training again before the problem cleared up
generally resulted in a lot more pain. One stretch I found which
relieved it (although very difficult to do at first) was, while sitting
at work, to cross the ankle of the problem leg across the other knee,
and then lean forward with straight back to stretch the hip area.

Thanks for the stretch. What do you think of cycling? I've been scared
to bike because I'm pretty sure that's where I hurt myself. The
original injury and the worst re-injuries have all come from times when
I was hammering hard on hills. I feel it with every footfall on the
run, but I'm pretty sure that isn't what caused the injury. (How about
THAT for a change, an injury NOT caused by running?)

In a related whine, I'm 40 years old an never, ever get more than two or
three months of running training before some injury sidelines me. Shin
splints or tendonitis or plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle or just
unknown knee or ankle pain. It's practically a joke that I want to be a
runner because I spend months of EVERY YEAR out with one damn thing
after another. (This is my first time with hip pain and it's on my
"good" side for a change.)

I have pitiful mileage (I go out three or four times a week for 1 to 4
miles, so I top out at about 12 miles a week) and I strength train and I
cross-train and always have new shoes and I run on a pine-needle and
dirt trail. I've been steadily losing weight but I'm still heavy for a
runner. I spent some time being a powerlifter and got tendonitis in my
shoulder that I just can't shake (and limits my swimming time.)

Is there some way to manage my prone-ness to over-use-injuries? I feel
like I'm one big imflamation waiting to happen.

Dally

The list of injuries you've had, matches what I had before I got
orthotics and fixed my posture by doing Pilates matwork. I didn't want
orthotics, but I caved, and they've made all the difference. The secret
is to find a good podiatrist before you pay to see them.

Tam

Dally said:

Rookie said:

I had something similar last year - wasn't able to run properly for 3
or 4 months - would ice, rest and stretch the hip for a few weeks, try
a gentle run and be in too much pain to continue within 15 minutes.
Only thing that eventually solved it was taking a couple of months off
all training except swimming, and even now, over a year since I first
had the problem, I still have the occasional twinge and have to stop to
stretch it out or else cut a session short and not run for a couple of
days.

Thanks for sharing this story. It sounds familiar.

Quoted message said:

I saw a physio, chiropractor and osteopath to try and get it sorted but
despite various theories none of them were able to provide more than
temporary relief.

I do not enjoy the process of trying to get others to heal me for me.
It has always been my experience that sports injuries need rest and ice
and stretches and weight-training. Doctors have shots and surgeries in
their arsenal. I've often considered exploring eastern medicines that
would address sending healing energy to that area, but I can't quite
replace "hope" with "faith" enough to go pay for it.

Quoted message said:

Suggest you avoid running as much as possible while it still hurts, my
attempts to start training again before the problem cleared up
generally resulted in a lot more pain. One stretch I found which
relieved it (although very difficult to do at first) was, while sitting
at work, to cross the ankle of the problem leg across the other knee,
and then lean forward with straight back to stretch the hip area.

Thanks for the stretch. What do you think of cycling? I've been scared
to bike because I'm pretty sure that's where I hurt myself. The
original injury and the worst re-injuries have all come from times when
I was hammering hard on hills. I feel it with every footfall on the
run, but I'm pretty sure that isn't what caused the injury. (How about
THAT for a change, an injury NOT caused by running?)

In a related whine, I'm 40 years old an never, ever get more than two or
three months of running training before some injury sidelines me. Shin
splints or tendonitis or plantar fasciitis or a torn muscle or just
unknown knee or ankle pain. It's practically a joke that I want to be a
runner because I spend months of EVERY YEAR out with one damn thing
after another. (This is my first time with hip pain and it's on my
"good" side for a change.)

I have pitiful mileage (I go out three or four times a week for 1 to 4
miles, so I top out at about 12 miles a week) and I strength train and I
cross-train and always have new shoes and I run on a pine-needle and
dirt trail. I've been steadily losing weight but I'm still heavy for a
runner. I spent some time being a powerlifter and got tendonitis in my
shoulder that I just can't shake (and limits my swimming time.)

Is there some way to manage my prone-ness to over-use-injuries? I feel
like I'm one big imflamation waiting to happen.

Dally

The list of injuries you've had, matches what I had before I got
orthotics and fixed my posture by doing Pilates matwork. I didn't want
orthotics, but I caved, and they've made all the difference. The secret
is to find a good podiatrist before you pay to see them.

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

The list of injuries you've had, matches what I had before I got
orthotics and fixed my posture by doing Pilates matwork. I didn't want
orthotics, but I caved, and they've made all the difference. The secret
is to find a good podiatrist before you pay to see them.

I've got a podiatrist, but no one has ever suggested I'd benefit from
orthotics. My mother is a neuromuscular massage therapist and really
into alignment, etc., and doesn't think I need them, either.

But you're right on the money about Pilates. I've really slacked off on
doing core work during the tri season and I think I'm paying the price
for it. I have particularly weak abdominal muscles due to repeated
pregnancies and a particularly poor abdominal outcome from a c-section.
It most likely plays a big part in my current hip problems.

I read one of the articles I got from following a link in this thread
and one thing that caught my eye was that you can do some forms of
active rest, i.e., not stop conditioning altogether. So tonight I went
and ran in the pool. Yay! Why hadn't I thought of that sooner? It
worked out great because I brought a six year old kid with me and he
chased me playing "tag". It was a lot of fun. "Playing" ought to be
one of the main cross-training activities.

Dally

Tamyka Bell said:

The list of injuries you've had, matches what I had before I got
orthotics and fixed my posture by doing Pilates matwork. I didn't want
orthotics, but I caved, and they've made all the difference. The secret
is to find a good podiatrist before you pay to see them.

I've got a podiatrist, but no one has ever suggested I'd benefit from
orthotics. My mother is a neuromuscular massage therapist and really
into alignment, etc., and doesn't think I need them, either.

But you're right on the money about Pilates. I've really slacked off on
doing core work during the tri season and I think I'm paying the price
for it. I have particularly weak abdominal muscles due to repeated
pregnancies and a particularly poor abdominal outcome from a c-section.
It most likely plays a big part in my current hip problems.

I read one of the articles I got from following a link in this thread
and one thing that caught my eye was that you can do some forms of
active rest, i.e., not stop conditioning altogether. So tonight I went
and ran in the pool. Yay! Why hadn't I thought of that sooner? It
worked out great because I brought a six year old kid with me and he
chased me playing "tag". It was a lot of fun. "Playing" ought to be
one of the main cross-training activities.

Dally

Dally said:

I've got a podiatrist, but no one has ever suggested I'd benefit from
orthotics. My mother is a neuromuscular massage therapist and really
into alignment, etc., and doesn't think I need them, either.

That's good news then. Lucky so-and-so. *Pout*

Quoted message said:

But you're right on the money about Pilates. I've really slacked off on
doing core work during the tri season and I think I'm paying the price
for it. I have particularly weak abdominal muscles due to repeated
pregnancies and a particularly poor abdominal outcome from a c-section.
It most likely plays a big part in my current hip problems.

When I was boxing, I used to get shin splints from skipping, until I
took up pilates. I knew it would have postural benefits, I knew that
muscles absorb a lot of the impact in landing, but I never really
understood how much your posture is involved in getting the muscles in
the right alignment to do that, until I took up Pilates

Quoted message said:

I read one of the articles I got from following a link in this thread
and one thing that caught my eye was that you can do some forms of
active rest, i.e., not stop conditioning altogether. So tonight I went
and ran in the pool. Yay! Why hadn't I thought of that sooner? It
worked out great because I brought a six year old kid with me and he
chased me playing "tag". It was a lot of fun. "Playing" ought to be
one of the main cross-training activities.

Good call. Kids seem to know how to keep fit and not get too injured,
and heal quickly when injured. I reckon they can teach us alot about how
to train.

Tam

Quoted message said:

Good call. Kids seem to know how to keep fit and not get too injured,
and heal quickly when injured. I reckon they can teach us alot about how
to train.

No way! Kids don't get injured because they weigh nothing, are very
close to the ground, have bendy bones, and their muscles and joints are
still young and supple, not old, stiff and covered with scar tissue.

If I tried doing half the stuff I did as a kid now I'd put myself in
hospital!

Rookie said:

Quoted message said:

Good call. Kids seem to know how to keep fit and not get too injured,
and heal quickly when injured. I reckon they can teach us alot about how
to train.

No way! Kids don't get injured because they weigh nothing, are very
close to the ground, have bendy bones, and their muscles and joints are
still young and supple, not old, stiff and covered with scar tissue.

If I tried doing half the stuff I did as a kid now I'd put myself in
hospital!

Our circus uses "play" to warm up for workshops. It's hilarious. Adults
are surprisingly good at playing and enjoy it alot.

There's a lot of studies now showing that the many aging effects are the
result of stopping training; i.e. they're effects, not cause.

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

There's a lot of studies now showing that the many aging effects are the
result of stopping training; i.e. they're effects, not cause.

It certainly makes me feel old to be injured. I went someplace
yesterday with my 80 year old FIL and I felt just as old and decrepit
with my sore hip.

Dally

Have you looked into ChiRunning?

Anna Marie