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  1. Tomorrow it will be 3 weeks since I was hit by a pickup truck. We all
    had fun discussing it here, but in the meantime I discovered a few sad
    facts. Yes, the incident was assigned a case number by San Jose
    Police, but they had no intention of investigating since the truck was
    wearing dealer advertising instead of a Ca license plate. "We don't
    have manpower to go searching for a phantom...blah blah, blah blah." I
    was not happy about that.

    I thought about it and decided that since I'm unemployed and the
    police don't have time, I would go cruising through every parking lot
    in widening circles around the scene of the incident, looking for a
    match. Started in the morning, and found the vehicle that afternoon.
    Same color, same size, same dealer advertising. Two blocks from the
    hit & run.

    Next day I went back to the intersection where I was hit, I waited
    there from 9 am until, guess what? At 9:15 I saw the same vehicle exit
    the freeway, go into the same lane from which he hit me, and make a
    right turn, driving two blocks to the same parking place where I found
    the truck the day before. Now I had placed the vehicle at the scene,
    at the time of the hit & run, and I had more matching data points than
    coincidence could explain.

    I started a Word doc to document all of this and began staking out the
    intersection, recording times and observations, establishing a pattern
    of behavior. My son assisted me by taking surreptitious photos of the
    truck since I'm afraid that once the license plates are put on it,
    witnesses will never identify it. I also sidled up to it and copied
    down the VIN and Temporary ID numbers.

    Compiled all of this into a four page report, and turned it in to the
    San Jose Police. They have now activated the investigation, you know,
    now that I've done half their work for them.

    I'm not deeply optimistic since it's all circumstantial and a good
    lawyer could probably prevent even an indictment, but I have to
    try...and if all the satisfaction I can get is that this pond scum has
    to pay a lawyer, well, I guess that will have to do.

    I was surprised that my auto insurance covers me when I'm a pedestrian
    (which is how they class cycling) for medical, so the nice ambulance
    ride and hospital visit will be paid for. Road rash is almost healed,
    I am walking un-gimpy again, but my back still feels as if some voodoo
    students are using me as a practice dummy.

    Advice to others: Get witness names and phones...don't assume that the
    police will give them to you, they probably won't, you may need to do
    your own investigation and to request a copy of the police report
    takes too long, you want to talk to witnesses while the incident is
    fresh in their minds.

    Cheers,
    ABS

  2. Quoted message said:

    Tomorrow it will be 3 weeks since I was hit by a pickup truck. We all
    had fun discussing it here, but in the meantime I discovered a few sad
    facts. Yes, the incident was assigned a case number by San Jose
    Police, but they had no intention of investigating since the truck was
    wearing dealer advertising instead of a Ca license plate. "We don't
    have manpower to go searching for a phantom...blah blah, blah blah." I
    was not happy about that.

    I thought about it and decided that since I'm unemployed and the
    police don't have time, I would go cruising through every parking lot
    in widening circles around the scene of the incident, looking for a
    match. Started in the morning, and found the vehicle that afternoon.
    Same color, same size, same dealer advertising. Two blocks from the
    hit & run.

    Next day I went back to the intersection where I was hit, I waited
    there from 9 am until, guess what? At 9:15 I saw the same vehicle exit
    the freeway, go into the same lane from which he hit me, and make a
    right turn, driving two blocks to the same parking place where I found
    the truck the day before. Now I had placed the vehicle at the scene,
    at the time of the hit & run, and I had more matching data points than
    coincidence could explain.

    I started a Word doc to document all of this and began staking out the
    intersection, recording times and observations, establishing a pattern
    of behavior. My son assisted me by taking surreptitious photos of the
    truck since I'm afraid that once the license plates are put on it,
    witnesses will never identify it. I also sidled up to it and copied
    down the VIN and Temporary ID numbers.

    Compiled all of this into a four page report, and turned it in to the
    San Jose Police. They have now activated the investigation, you know,
    now that I've done half their work for them.

    I'm not deeply optimistic since it's all circumstantial and a good
    lawyer could probably prevent even an indictment, but I have to
    try...and if all the satisfaction I can get is that this pond scum has
    to pay a lawyer, well, I guess that will have to do.

    I was surprised that my auto insurance covers me when I'm a pedestrian
    (which is how they class cycling) for medical, so the nice ambulance
    ride and hospital visit will be paid for. Road rash is almost healed,
    I am walking un-gimpy again, but my back still feels as if some voodoo
    students are using me as a practice dummy.

    Advice to others: Get witness names and phones...don't assume that the
    police will give them to you, they probably won't, you may need to do
    your own investigation and to request a copy of the police report
    takes too long, you want to talk to witnesses while the incident is
    fresh in their minds.

    Cheers,
    ABS

    Well done and I hope the police nail the driver.

    --
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  3. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Tomorrow it will be 3 weeks since I was hit by a pickup truck. We all
    had fun discussing it here, but in the meantime I discovered a few sad
    facts. Yes, the incident was assigned a case number by San Jose
    Police, but they had no intention of investigating since the truck was
    wearing dealer advertising instead of a Ca license plate. "We don't
    have manpower to go searching for a phantom...blah blah, blah blah." I
    was not happy about that.


    <snip>

    Well if you want something done right, you gotta....

    Good for you. There's no reason why the case shouldn't be pursued now
    that, as you've noted, most of the legwork has already been done. Let
    us know how this all ends.

  4. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:28:54 -0800 (PST), [email hidden]
    wrote, in part:
    \

    Quoted message said:

    They have now activated the investigation, you know,
    now that I've done half their work for them.


    \

    Congratulations and good luck pursuing it further.

    Thanks for not taking this cynic's advise to "get used to it".
    --
    zk

  5. Hello Alan

    Glad your mending.

    I think you have a have a NBC Dateline story in the works here,
    seriously.

    Best of Luck - Mike Baldwin

  6. Quoted message said:

    I was surprised that my auto insurance covers me when I'm a pedestrian
    (which is how they class cycling) for medical, so the nice ambulance
    ride and hospital visit will be paid for.

    Give a copy of your report to them... they would be happy to go
    after the miscreant's insurance to pay your expenses!

  7. aka Alan B. Stew(art?) said:

    Tomorrow it will be 3 weeks since I was hit by a pickup truck. We all
    had fun discussing it here, but in the meantime I discovered a few sad
    facts. Yes, the incident was assigned a case number by San Jose
    Police, but they had no intention of investigating since the truck was
    wearing dealer advertising instead of a Ca license plate. "We don't
    have manpower to go searching for a phantom...blah blah, blah blah." I
    was not happy about that.

    I thought about it and decided that since I'm unemployed and the
    police don't have time, I would go cruising through every parking lot
    in widening circles around the scene of the incident, looking for a
    match. Started in the morning, and found the vehicle that afternoon.
    Same color, same size, same dealer advertising. Two blocks from the
    hit & run.

    Next day I went back to the intersection where I was hit, I waited
    there from 9 am until, guess what? At 9:15 I saw the same vehicle exit
    the freeway, go into the same lane from which he hit me, and make a
    right turn, driving two blocks to the same parking place where I found
    the truck the day before. Now I had placed the vehicle at the scene,
    at the time of the hit & run, and I had more matching data points than
    coincidence could explain.

    I started a Word doc to document all of this and began staking out the
    intersection, recording times and observations, establishing a pattern
    of behavior. My son assisted me by taking surreptitious photos of the
    truck since I'm afraid that once the license plates are put on it,
    witnesses will never identify it. I also sidled up to it and copied
    down the VIN and Temporary ID numbers.

    Compiled all of this into a four page report, and turned it in to the
    San Jose Police. They have now activated the investigation, you know,
    now that I've done half their work for them.

    I'm not deeply optimistic since it's all circumstantial and a good
    lawyer could probably prevent even an indictment, but I have to
    try...and if all the satisfaction I can get is that this pond scum has
    to pay a lawyer, well, I guess that will have to do.

    I was surprised that my auto insurance covers me when I'm a pedestrian
    (which is how they class cycling) for medical, so the nice ambulance
    ride and hospital visit will be paid for. Road rash is almost healed,
    I am walking un-gimpy again, but my back still feels as if some voodoo
    students are using me as a practice dummy.

    Advice to others: Get witness names and phones...don't assume that the
    police will give them to you, they probably won't, you may need to do
    your own investigation and to request a copy of the police report
    takes too long, you want to talk to witnesses while the incident is
    fresh in their minds.


    You could consider filing a civil suit against the driver.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  8. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Tomorrow it will be 3 weeks since I was hit by a pickup truck. We all
    had fun discussing it here, but in the meantime I discovered a few sad
    facts. Yes, the incident was assigned a case number by San Jose
    Police, but they had no intention of investigating since the truck was
    wearing dealer advertising instead of a Ca license plate. "We don't
    have manpower to go searching for a phantom...blah blah, blah blah." I
    was not happy about that.

    I thought about it and decided that since I'm unemployed and the
    police don't have time, I would go cruising through every parking lot
    in widening circles around the scene of the incident, looking for a
    match. Started in the morning, and found the vehicle that afternoon.
    Same color, same size, same dealer advertising. Two blocks from the
    hit & run.

    Next day I went back to the intersection where I was hit, I waited
    there from 9 am until, guess what? At 9:15 I saw the same vehicle exit
    the freeway, go into the same lane from which he hit me, and make a
    right turn, driving two blocks to the same parking place where I found
    the truck the day before. Now I had placed the vehicle at the scene,
    at the time of the hit & run, and I had more matching data points than
    coincidence could explain.

    I started a Word doc to document all of this and began staking out the
    intersection, recording times and observations, establishing a pattern
    of behavior. My son assisted me by taking surreptitious photos of the
    truck since I'm afraid that once the license plates are put on it,
    witnesses will never identify it. I also sidled up to it and copied
    down the VIN and Temporary ID numbers.

    Compiled all of this into a four page report, and turned it in to the
    San Jose Police. They have now activated the investigation, you know,
    now that I've done half their work for them.

    I'm not deeply optimistic since it's all circumstantial and a good
    lawyer could probably prevent even an indictment, but I have to
    try...and if all the satisfaction I can get is that this pond scum has
    to pay a lawyer, well, I guess that will have to do.

    I was surprised that my auto insurance covers me when I'm a pedestrian
    (which is how they class cycling) for medical, so the nice ambulance
    ride and hospital visit will be paid for. Road rash is almost healed,
    I am walking un-gimpy again, but my back still feels as if some voodoo
    students are using me as a practice dummy.

    Advice to others: Get witness names and phones...don't assume that the
    police will give them to you, they probably won't, you may need to do
    your own investigation and to request a copy of the police report
    takes too long, you want to talk to witnesses while the incident is
    fresh in their minds.

    Cheers,
    ABS

    Yeah, it's wonderful how you can stir the cops into action once you give
    them the case on a plate. If the hit-n-run bottom feeder walks you can
    always let all his tyres down and pour a bottle of sulfuric acid over his
    hood.

    Many many many years ago, in a more trusting age I lost a motorbike to a
    test rider who never came back. The cops closed my case because my bike was
    listed as "recovered". That is, my licence plate was recovered attached to a
    dumped frame of a completely different make. I became friends with Pat, the
    owner of the dumped frame and we teamed up to track down the perp because
    the cops weren't interested. And we did track him down. Storage shed full of
    stolen motorcycles being torn down and the parts being trucked interstate
    for resale.
    Pat and I were both in the spectators gallery at court to see justice done.
    The defendant's lawyer told a moving story of a deprived childhood and an
    abusive stepfather which caused his client to grow up and make a career out
    of thieving other peoples property, Result? Two years probation which in
    perpworld is the same as getting off.
    Pat was lurking outside the court when the defendant walked out and Pat gave
    him a little something extra to remember him by. When Pat's case came up he
    got a $250 fine for assault and that was in the days when $250 was two weeks
    wages. I've never had any faith in court administered justice ever since.

    PH

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:


    I started a Word doc to document all of this and began staking out the
    intersection, recording times and observations, establishing a pattern
    of behavior. My son assisted me by taking surreptitious photos of the
    truck since I'm afraid that once the license plates are put on it,
    witnesses will never identify it. I also sidled up to it and copied
    down the VIN and Temporary ID numbers.

    Compiled all of this into a four page report, and turned it in to the
    San Jose Police. They have now activated the investigation, you know,
    now that I've done half their work for them.

    I'm not deeply optimistic since it's all circumstantial and a good
    lawyer could probably prevent even an indictment, but I have to
    try...and if all the satisfaction I can get is that this pond scum has
    to pay a lawyer, well, I guess that will have to do.

    I do hope the guy who clobbered you (and subsequently took off
    in a cowardly manner) gets his judicial come-uppance.

    The System /can/ work for us, but sometimes we've gotta prime
    the pumps ourselves, as you have done, and exceptionally well.

    And I hope you derive the resolution to this matter that's
    most satisfactory to you, and Pond Scum Guy doesn't hereafter
    hurt anybody else.

    But I /especially/ hope you haven't lost your joie de velo.
    As I recall, you initially were considering hanging it up
    and quitting cycling after this bad experience. Well, that's
    your call to make, and not really anybody else's business.
    I just hate to see some jerks spoiling things for good folks
    like yourself.

    May your life be festooned with blessings and good fortune
    from now on.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    Nothing is safe from me.
    I'm really at:
    tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

  10. (Michael Baldwin) said:

    Hello Alan

    Glad your mending.

    I think you have a have a NBC Dateline story in the works here,
    seriously.

    I agree. If I were in your shoes I would give some serious thought to
    sending this story, along with your data, to all the local news
    agencies, spaced a couple days apart. All it takes is one slow news
    day and one reporter who thinks "hmm, this could be a good human
    interest piece" and you're golden. I'd bet if you can get this into
    the news the cops will get themselves into gear properly, and the
    crime will be prosecuted as it should be. It's unfortunate that this
    is the state of affairs, but since it is you may as well work the
    system.

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