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  1. I didn't know how this Stephen Nagler got to sci.med.cardiology until
    I Googled back a week or so. He first showed up here on 21 Dec
    preaching the following message:

    tinyurl.com2keqz

    "I cannot make recommendations or requests regarding *this* newsgroup, but on alt.support.tinnitus
    we have - through trial and (a lot of) error - found that ad hominem attacks (no matter how cleverly
    cloaked) ultimately serve no purpose but to reflect poorly on the attacker and to detract from the
    value of the newsgroup. If you are going to insist on double-posting, I very respectfully request
    that - at least for the purposes of alt.support.tinnitus - you please consider confining your
    comments to the merits (or lack thereof) of the various issues and refrain from making derogatory
    comments about the people espousing those issues."

    lol

    How soon he forgets his own, self-serving advice (self-serving in that Nagler wants to control
    alt.support.tinnitus and attempts to do so with usenet lectures like the above - as if he was
    appointed Moderator De Facto).

    By the very next day, we have this from Nagler:

    tinyurl.comywfo8

    "Dr. Chung, that's the kind of [censored] that just doesn't help anyone!

    You're a spiritual man, if I read your posts correctly, Dr. Chung. So what was it that Hillel said
    when asked to give the essence of the Bible while standing on one foot?

    Ah yes. Here it is:

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. This is the entire [Bible]; the rest is
    commentary - go and learn it." (Babylonian Talmud, Shabbat 31a)

    Something to think about, no?"

    lol

    In the same day, Nagler repeats his lecture one, we will soon see, is only aimed at others and
    apparently not for his use.

    "I can only counter by noting that ad hominem attacks - even if 100% true - are still ad hominem
    attacks and are in the main counterproductive, in my opinion. If somebody is behaving "fanatically
    and irrationally," it seems to me that such will become quite obvious to even the uninitiated
    reader if the discussion sticks to the position being espoused rather that to the person espousing
    the position.

    Look, I think I can speak with some authority on this topic. I have been the victim of numerous ad
    hominem attacks and have dealt out quite a few of my own. No good ever came of it on
    alt.support.tinnitus ... and I suspect no good will ever come of it here."

    tinyurl.comywfo8

    Aw, how much longer until the true Nagler Hypocrite shows up? A matter of hours.

    "More double talk, Chung. Verbal masturbation.

    When I say "being equally heard," I mean "being equally effective."

    And you damned well know it.

    Sheesh. What a jerk! I sure hope you give your patients more credit for intelligence than you give
    the readership here."

    tinyurl.com2mk8s

    But, alas, one more (of many) hypocritical posts from Nagler.

    "Mu, Kiss my ass and call it love story.

    lol

    And people wonder why he ran away from SMC in a cloud of dust and a mighty Hi Ho Hypocrite,
    Away!!!!!!!!!!!!

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap950921.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  2. One Small M_un Step said:


    I didn't know how this Stephen Nagler got to sci.med.cardiology until I Googled back a week or so.
    He first showed up here on 21 Dec preaching the following message:

    tinyurl.com2keqz

    "I cannot make recommendations or requests regarding *this* newsgroup, but on alt.support.tinnitus
    we have - through trial and (a lot of) error - found that ad hominem attacks (no matter how
    cleverly cloaked) ultimately serve no purpose but to reflect poorly on the attacker and to detract
    from the value of the newsgroup. If you are going to insist on double-posting, I very respectfully
    request that - at least for the purposes of alt.support.tinnitus - you please consider confining
    your comments to the merits (or lack thereof) of the various issues and refrain from making
    derogatory comments about the people espousing those issues."

    lol

    How soon he forgets his own, self-serving advice (self-serving in that Nagler wants to control
    alt.support.tinnitus and attempts to do so with usenet lectures like the above - as if he was
    appointed Moderator De Facto).

    By the very next day, we have this from Nagler:

    tinyurl.comywfo8

    "Dr. Chung, that's the kind of [censored] that just doesn't help anyone!

    You're a spiritual man, if I read your posts correctly, Dr. Chung. So what was it that Hillel said
    when asked to give the essence of the Bible while standing on one foot?

    Ah yes. Here it is:

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. This is the entire [Bible]; the rest is
    commentary - go and learn it." (Babylonian Talmud, Shabbat 31a)

    Something to think about, no?"

    lol

    In the same day, Nagler repeats his lecture one, we will soon see, is only aimed at others and
    apparently not for his use.

    "I can only counter by noting that ad hominem attacks - even if 100% true - are still ad hominem
    attacks and are in the main counterproductive, in my opinion. If somebody is behaving "fanatically
    and irrationally," it seems to me that such will become quite obvious to even the uninitiated
    reader if the discussion sticks to the position being espoused rather that to the person espousing
    the position.

    Look, I think I can speak with some authority on this topic. I have been the victim of numerous ad
    hominem attacks and have dealt out quite a few of my own. No good ever came of it on
    alt.support.tinnitus ... and I suspect no good will ever come of it here."

    tinyurl.comywfo8

    Aw, how much longer until the true Nagler Hypocrite shows up? A matter of hours.

    "More double talk, Chung. Verbal masturbation.

    When I say "being equally heard," I mean "being equally effective."

    And you damned well know it.

    Sheesh. What a jerk! I sure hope you give your patients more credit for intelligence than you give
    the readership here."

    tinyurl.com2mk8s

    But, alas, one more (of many) hypocritical posts from Nagler.

    "Mu, Kiss my ass and call it love story.

    lol

    And people wonder why he ran away from SMC in a cloud of dust and a mighty Hi Ho Hypocrite,
    Away!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I still think Matt Bernstein (a.k.a. Mattilda a.k.a. [email hidden]) had something to do with
    it. I recall they had an "encounter."

    tinyurl.com35baj

    Poor guy.

    May he accept Christ as his Lord and Savior in 2004 :-)

    He remains in my prayers.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-certified Cardiologist
    http:/www.heartmdphd.com/

  3. One Small M_un Step said:

    I didn't know how this Stephen Nagler got to sci.med.cardiology until I Googled back a week or so.
    He first showed up here on 21 Dec preaching the following message:

    tinyurl.com2keqz

    "I cannot make recommendations or requests regarding *this* newsgroup, but on alt.support.tinnitus
    we have - through trial and (a lot of) error - found that ad hominem attacks (no matter how
    cleverly cloaked) ultimately serve no purpose but to reflect poorly on the attacker and to detract
    from the value of the newsgroup. If you are going to insist on double-posting, I very respectfully
    request that - at least for the purposes of alt.support.tinnitus - you please consider confining
    your comments to the merits (or lack thereof) of the various issues and refrain from making
    derogatory comments about the people espousing those issues."

    lol

    How typically scurrilous is Mu_cus. Nagler was exhorting people not to do ad hominem attacks *that
    were merely that* and not reasonable criticisms of unreasonable behavior.

    Quoted message said:

    By the very next day, we have this from Nagler:

    tinyurl.comywfo8

    "Dr. Chung, that's the kind of [censored] that just doesn't help anyone!

    You're a spiritual man, if I read your posts correctly, Dr. Chung. So what was it that Hillel said
    when asked to give the essence of the Bible while standing on one foot?

    Ah yes. Here it is:

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. This is the entire [Bible]; the rest is
    commentary - go and learn it." (Babylonian Talmud, Shabbat 31a)

    Something to think about, no?"

    lol

    That same sad, mad laughter. Mu_mble so grandly misses the point that Chung was doing his normal
    [censored] and Nagler called him on it. Talk about self-serving.

    Quoted message said:

    In the same day, Nagler repeats his lecture one, we will soon see, is only aimed at others and
    apparently not for his use.

    "I can only counter by noting that ad hominem attacks - even if 100% true - are still ad hominem
    attacks and are in the main counterproductive, in my opinion. If somebody is behaving "fanatically
    and irrationally," it seems to me that such will become quite obvious to even the uninitiated
    reader if the discussion sticks to the position being espoused rather that to the person espousing
    the position.

    Again Nagler is saying to leave Chung alone because he's hanging himself with his fanaticism. That
    readers are smart enough to decide for themselves. Still trying to create a peaceful setting.

    Quoted message said:

    Look, I think I can speak with some authority on this topic. I have been the victim of numerous ad
    hominem attacks and have dealt out quite a few of my own. No good ever came of it on
    alt.support.tinnitus ... and I suspect no good will ever come of it here."

    tinyurl.comywfo8

    Aw, how much longer until the true Nagler Hypocrite shows up? A matter of hours.

    "More double talk, Chung. Verbal masturbation.

    When I say "being equally heard," I mean "being equally effective."

    And you damned well know it.

    Sheesh. What a jerk! I sure hope you give your patients more credit for intelligence than you give
    the readership here."

    Perfectly appropriate for the behavior Chung was showing. Essentially his normal stuff.

    Quoted message said:

    tinyurl.com2mk8s

    But, alas, one more (of many) hypocritical posts from Nagler.

    "Mu, Kiss my ass and call it love story.

    lol

    <LOL> Poor Mu_riform gets his butt kicked again and tries to get some sympathy. He baits Nagler who
    promptly sticks it in the giant nose of Mu_scatel. Whining Mu_ngrel strikes again.

    Quoted message said:

    And people wonder why he ran away from SMC in a cloud of dust and a mighty Hi Ho Hypocrite,
    Away!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Funny how the fools don't understand about other people not suffering fools. I love it how an
    anonymous coward takes after someone who's man enough to stand up with his name out front.

    Pastorio

  4. MD/PhD said:

    I still think Matt Bernstein (a.k.a. Mattilda a.k.a. [email hidden]) had something to do with
    it. I recall they had an "encounter."

    tinyurl.com35baj

    lol

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap950921.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  5. On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:53:08 -0500, Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Again Nagler is saying to leave Chung alone because he's hanging himself with his fanaticism. That
    readers are smart enough to decide for themselves. Still trying to create a peaceful setting.

    Remember who we are dealing with. You are trying to use reasoning when talking with a fanatic driven
    only by a narrow set of beliefs. Normal, logical reasoning means nothing to such a person.

    Quoted message said:

    <LOL> Poor Mu_riform gets his butt kicked again and tries to get some sympathy. He baits Nagler who
    promptly sticks it in the giant nose of Mu_scatel. Whining Mu_ngrel strikes again.

    Your takeoffs on Mu_?????? are quite funny. <g> Much more creative than what Mu????? uses himself.

    Quoted message said:

    Funny how the fools don't understand about other people not suffering fools. I love it how an
    anonymous coward takes after someone who's man enough to stand up with his name out front.

    Why are you surprised? Matt

  6. One Small M_un Step said:
    MD/PhD said:

    I still think Matt Bernstein (a.k.a. Mattilda a.k.a. [email hidden]) had something to do
    with it. I recall they had an "encounter."

    tinyurl.com35baj

    lol

    Enjoying your fantasy, I see. You do play with each other. <g> Matt

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