Nagler's A PH.D ??

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

Author, lecturer profound, surgeon, tinnitus expert, board moderator, web site developer......and
with all this education, Internet/Usenet experience and ability to intimately communicate with
people, he actually believes that Chung is Mu is Chung?

lol

So much for formal education.

.................

"Tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are. If you run with wolves you will
learn how to howl. But, if you associate with eagles, you will learn how to soar to great heights."
(John Mason)

You, Mu, ain't no eagle. You are nothing more than a common Usenet troll. Either way, Humbly the
Hyprocrite comes out a big loser. And in so doing the readership of this newsgroup suffers.

Whatever.

Ciao.

smn

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

Author, lecturer profound, surgeon, tinnitus expert, board moderator, web site
developer......and with all this education, Internet/Usenet experience and ability to intimately
communicate with people,

He IS an impressive person, isn't he?

I see you're up to your usual detective tricks again, too. <g> I see you paid particular attention
to anything you could stretch into something antichristian, too. <gg> You ARE predictable. Matt

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 23:16:12 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

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You, Mu, ain't no eagle.

You're a master of understatement. <g>

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You are nothing more than a common Usenet troll. Either way, Humbly the Hyprocrite comes out a
big loser.

The wrath of Mu_. Don't say I didn't warn you. <ggg>

I'll contact you directly, as you asked. Matt

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 23:16:12 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

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"Tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are. If you run with wolves you will
learn how to howl. But, if you associate with eagles, you will learn how to soar to great heights."
(John Mason)

Cliches without any significance. As a Jew, you should know better.

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You, Mu, ain't no eagle. You are nothing more than a common Usenet troll.

Gosh darn, that hurts Stephen. Problem is, with your higher education and all, you chose to listen
to a bunch of slow minded individuals who have trolled you into this Chung=Mu idiocy.

Btw. the usual definition of a troll is one who has nothing of value to say.

Pick a subject on strength training, CV health and exercise, commercial real estate, post-rehab in
professional athletes, POW's in Iraq...take your best shot, Stephen. Please don't limit yourself to
these subjects either.

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Either way, Humbly the Hyprocrite comes out a big loser.

Careful with the anti-Christian sentiment, Stephen. It only makes you the loser.

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And in so doing the readership of this newsgroup suffers.

By what facts do you claim this?

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Whatever.

I trained teenagers who used this expression whenever they had their rant and nothing else
left to say.

You see, Stephen. you have screwed up. You bought into the Chung=Mu BS, big time, because that is
what you want to believe. It's your out from serious and pointed discussions about our beliefs and
your lack of any comprehensible basis for your beliefs.

So, here you have it. Either you challenge me, further, to all the subjects above, few of which
Chung could possibly make claim or expertise to, or you have to slink off knowing that what you are
really interested in is a way out of here.

Balls in your court however, let me serve.

Ask me about my 8 years on the weight room floor.

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Nagler IS an impressive person, isn't he?

Beats me. I never met him. Maybe you are impressed, I only see a very well trained and educated man
who shows significant inabilities to discern the obvious.

But, then, Stephen has an agenda. He has to bow out of this group and he has to do so with an
"appropriate" excuse.

Chung=Mu works for him however inane it is.

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I see you're up to your usual detective tricks again, too. <g>

Oh, I see, Chung=Mu=Chan.

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I see you paid particular attention to anything you could stretch into something antichristian,
too. <gg> You ARE predictable.

Then tell me what I am thinking now.

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Stephen, I'll contact you directly, as you asked. Matt

Make sure you both have your super-secret decoder rings and all that really solid evidence
that MU=chung.

I mean, gosh darn, Nagler doesn't need anymore misinformation. He's in trouble here. Forever
Googled, archived, as one of the Chung=Mu sleuths. What if he has royally screwed up?

Help him all you can. I, fro one, have always been impressed with your insight.

<rolling eyes>

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Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

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Stephen, I'll contact you directly, as you asked. Matt

Make sure you both have your super-secret decoder rings and all that really solid evidence that
MU=chung.

Actually, he simply asked that I contact him.

Truth is simple for the truthful. <g> At least for those of us who always tell the truth. Why are
you making it so complex?

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I, fro one, have always been impressed with your insight.

Thanks. <g>

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<rolling eyes>

Ahhhh... the old eye problem is back again. <g> We'll wait for the next part. <g>

Nice try, though. Better luck next time. <g> Matt

If you had this much surplus time, I suggest you go with the political discussion ngs, where you
could really tear each other off for reasons that you will understand later on.

Stephen has been of great help to those who suffer. Thus if you were not suffering, please leave
those who do alone.

Thanks,

FP
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Mu_nrise Through The Shadow <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Author, lecturer profound, surgeon, tinnitus expert, board moderator, web site developer......and
with all this education, Internet/Usenet experience and ability to intimately communicate with
people, he actually believes that Chung is Mu is Chung?

lol

So much for formal education.

antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap031122.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On 28 Dec 2003 17:50:55 -0800, [email hidden] (francispoon)

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If you had this much surplus time, I suggest you go with the political discussion ngs, where you
could really tear each other off for reasons that you will understand later on.

Stephen has been of great help to those who suffer. Thus if you were not suffering, please leave
those who do alone.

I did not see many reasonable and worthwhile contributions by him on SMC.

I an glad that you have found him more valuable.

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Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

Author, lecturer profound, surgeon, tinnitus expert, board moderator, web site developer......and
with all this education, Internet/Usenet experience and ability to intimately communicate with
people, he actually believes that Chung is Mu is Chung?

lol

So much for formal education.

.................

"Tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are. If you run with wolves you will
learn how to howl. But, if you associate with eagles, you will learn how to soar to great
heights." (John Mason)

You, Mu, ain't no eagle. You are nothing more than a common Usenet troll. Either way, Humbly the
Hyprocrite comes out a big loser. And in so doing the readership of this newsgroup suffers.

Whatever.

Ciao.

Folks keep telling you that you have free will (it's about time you believed it). <wave>

Please feel free to come back any time when you are less afraid.

You will remain in my prayers, neighbor.

Love,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

Stephen Nagler said:

"Tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are. If you run with wolves you will
learn how to howl. But, if you associate with eagles, you will learn how to soar to great
heights." (John Mason)

Cliches without any significance.

Ahhhh... I see. When Chung/Mu quotes it, it is absolute truth. When Stephen does, it is a cliche.
Yea, right. REALLY ROTFL!! You are really funny.

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As a Jew, you should know better.

As a human, you should know better. But wait... <g>

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Btw. the usual definition of a troll is one who has nothing of value to say.

Excellent. That is the best proof that you are a troll that I have seen so far. Thanks for
the insight.

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Pick a subject on strength training, CV health and exercise, commercial real estate, post-rehab in
professional athletes, POW's in Iraq...t

These are off topic for this group. But wait, that is of no concern to you, is it?
Thoughtless Chung/Mu.

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Either way, Humbly the Hyprocrite comes out a big loser.

Careful with the anti-Christian sentiment, Stephen. It only makes you the loser.

And you are not anti-Jew?. Yea, right. <ggg>

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So, here you have it. Either you challenge me, further, to all the subjects above,

These are off topic for this group. But wait, that is of no concern to you, is it?
Thoughtless Chung/Mu.

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few of which Chung could possibly make claim or expertise to,

Prove it. We don't buy it without proof. Have fun trying. <g>

Balls in your court however. Missed the last few, didn't you. <g> Some trainer you are. <g>

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Ask me about my 8 years on the weight room floor.

Why bother? These are off topic for this group. But wait, that is of no concern to you, is it?
Thoughtless Chung/Mu. Matt

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

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I see you paid particular attention to anything you could stretch into something antichristian,
too. <gg> You ARE predictable.

Then tell me what I am thinking now.

You're thinking about replying to my posts. You will NOT be able to resist it either. <g> You will
reply. See? Told you so. <g> Matt

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

Quoted message said:

Nagler IS an impressive person, isn't he?

Beats me. I never met him. Maybe you are impressed, I only see a very well trained and educated man
who shows significant inabilities to discern the obvious.

But, then, Stephen has an agenda. He has to bow out of this group and he has to do so with an
"appropriate" excuse.

Chung=Mu works for him however inane it is.

Quoted message said:

I see you're up to your usual detective tricks again, too. <g>

Oh, I see, Chung=Mu=Chan.

Quoted message said:

I see you paid particular attention to anything you could stretch into something antichristian,
too. <gg> You ARE predictable.

Then tell me what I am thinking now.

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Wait a minute..I get it! You're really Bob Pastorio!!

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Then tell me what I am thinking now.

Wait a minute..I get it! You're really Bob Pastorio!!

Now THERE'S an idea. <ggg> Matt

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Wait a minute..I get it! You're really Bob Pastorio!!

At least I can cook al dente!

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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:48:47 -0500, Mu_nrise Through The Shadow <[email hidden]> wrote:

Wait a minute..I get it! You're really Bob Pastorio!!

Hey, listener. Can you *only* be an [censored] or do you have other tricks?

Pastorio

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow said:

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Wait a minute..I get it! You're really Bob Pastorio!!

At least I can cook al dente!

<LOL> "Mu_sic from the bathroom" is back with his pointless non sequiturs and terrible(!!)
insults. It's like being beaten by a swaggering muppet. Hard to keep from laughing, the
"punishment" is so empty.

Hey, somebody ask him about lifting heavy things. And try to act like that matters an iota to the
human race so he won't feel as useless as he is. Training teenagers, he says. Isn't that the
"Michael Jackson defense" nowadays?

<LOLOL> He wants people to ask him questions so he can show everybody how smart he is. Like that
unfortunate condition hasn't already been established beyond a shadow of a doubt. Ask him
penetrating queries about his - Bond, Mu Bond - travels to Iraq. Ask him questions about training -
I always liked the hats those train guys wear, the ones that look like a mattress cover made into a
hat, with those little stripes.

Ask him all sorts of questions that have nothing to do with cardiology. He's just doing his inexpert
troll routine and staying just as cowardly anonymous as ever.

<LOL> Mung and Chu.

Pastorio

Mu_nrise Through The Shadow <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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(francispoon) said:

If you had this much surplus time, I suggest you go with the political discussion ngs, where you
could really tear each other off for reasons that you will understand later on.

Stephen has been of great help to those who suffer. Thus if you were not suffering, please leave
those who do alone.

I did not see many reasonable and worthwhile contributions by him on SMC.

I an glad that you have found him more valuable.

I think it is important for any reader to view various posts and makes up *his own* mine. Sometimes
a person in a ng could speak too authoritatively and in doing so affect the newbies in these medical
ngs. By the same token, a doctor could do the same thing and the patients get affected. For example,
the 3 doctors in HK and the 4 in China failed to explain and therefore treated my blood pressure spike-
ups as my own "psychological dependence". After I got the advice from Dr. Chung to do away with the
short-lived beta blockers and have been doing well, I went back to tell each of them that there
should be no end to learning. None of them was happy to listen to that.

So there are both advantages and disadvantages of listening to just one doctor. I usually go for
several doctors. The last one you should go is the one or ones that treat the patients as accounts
opened at Merril Lynch. Stephen and Dr. Chung make no money in advising any of us. On that basis,
they should be given credit, and respect for their spirit, though not necessarily for *all* their
opinions. They have not claimed to be God. Haven't they?

FP

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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 23:49:14 -0500, Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:48:47 -0500, Mu_nrise Through The Shadow <[email hidden]> wrote:

Wait a minute..I get it! You're really Bob Pastorio!!

Hey, listener. Can you *only* be an [censored] or do you have other tricks?

Pastorio

Ouch. Now we're name calling. So, you're prolix, voluble AND have no sense of humor!