My winter project.

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB

How tall are you?!?! That looks to be 58-59 CM. I would think you could flip that stem with 30 MM under it.

The frame is 60cm and I am 6'4" with a 36" inseam. As-is the seat to handlebar drop is about 3". I might be able to go lower, but would like to get some run time on it first.

Yeah...trial it before the hacksaw comes out of the toolbox. I'll be interested in hearing what you think of the ride...when it warms up.

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Quote by Maydog: "Well not sure what that post has to do with my project..."   Snow and extreme cold, Obi Wan. -6° in Ohio on this brisk January morning.   How tall are you?!?! That looks to be 58-59 CM. I would think you could flip that stem with 30 MM under it.   The build looks good. The fork looks right at home.   The white paint looks good, but is begging for some rattle can red and black panels/stripes and a few tastefully applied decals (Pssst! I hear the Chinese sell Pinarello Dogma decals on the web, but you might wanna snag a wavy fork first.)   You see my avatar? That's Matt Eaton riding the Milk Race on a very proudly decaled NASHBAR frame! Never mind that was probably a Colnago under the Youngstown, Ohio 'Nashbar' banner!   [IMG]cyclingforums.comLLOpen ↗[/IMG] After the Brit rider, Steve Jones, called Alexi Grewal a "sand [censored]" while the leaders climbed a steep hill Matt grabbed a full water bottle and chucked it squarely into the side of Jones' skull. Ride your Nashbar proudly, knowing Arni Nashbar and a bunch of frozen Ohioans (Note, Matt was actually born in England IIRC) helped kick some Euro ass back in 1983! Edit: Matt's bike was an Olmo, not a Colnago.

Steve Jones or Graham Jones?

Stevo.

http://www.stevejonescoaching.co.uk/

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Originally Posted by maydog
Well not sure what that post has to do with my project, but it looks like quite a trek,

Anyway, I finally received the nashbar frame today and took a few hours to transfer all the components over.

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The frame is pretty nice, but doesn't have all the bling of the Javelin frame. The nashbar frame uses round tubes instead of aero shaped tubes, the welds are not smoothed, I needed a braze on adapter and the paint job is not as fancy, white shows everything.

Perhaps the frame is still a bit small for me, but fit-wise I am able to get everything more or less equivalent to my current setup. The stack to the stem is 30mm now instead of 40mm which should be a bit safer. After logging some miles, I may try for an even shorter stack.

Now all that is left is to route the cables and wrap the handlebars.

That setup looks a lot better than the Javelin which not only had an enormous stack height but very long seatpost. Might I suggest you look for a new saddle? That tape job on the horn ruins the look of the build!

It is one of my favorite saddles - an E3 now called Kontact. I got the E3 for $25 at performancebike back in the day now the kontacts are $120. It has many miles and the covering around the nose is worn. I may get a new saddle, find some black cloth tape or just use a sharpie.

I have another on a different bike and the tape holds up very well.

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It is one of my favorite saddles - an E3 now called Kontact. I got the E3 for $25 at performancebike back in the day now the kontacts are $120. It has many miles and the covering around the nose is worn. I may get a new saddle, find some black cloth tape or just use a sharpie.

This saddle used to get excellent reviews. At the time, though, I was still using Turbos.

The main difference between a $25 E3 and a $120 Kontact is probably titanium rails.

Today I found some time to hook up the shifter and brake cables. Everything went well except for some hiccups in getting the triple shifter to work with the front double.

Initially I attempted to use the lowest two settings on the shifter and prevent from pulling into the highest gear using the high limiter on the derailleur. In this configuration, I was able to upshift, small to big, but it would not shift from big to small. The paddle would not click, I had to release the cable tension to get it to shift down again. After a few rounds of tweaking, I gave up.

Instead, I configured the shifting so that the big ring, high gear selection on the shifter would shift into the big ring. The low gear setting lets the cable go a little slack as the low limit on the derailleur is set to keep the chain from going off the inner side. This configuration works, but is quirky. Effectively I have 5 trim settings, 2 for the big ring and three for the small ring. The lowest trim is the slack, non-existent triple small selection then the two middle ring trims. The shifter does allow for direct shifting from middle to big and big to middle which should be sufficient - I think it will just take a bit of riding to get used to the feel and additional trims as my current bikes are much older shimano 8 and 9 speed setups with no trim options.

I don't spend much time shifting between chainrings anyway.

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Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
After the Brit rider, Steve Jones, called Alexi Grewal a "sand [censored]" while the leaders climbed a steep hill Matt grabbed a full water bottle and chucked it squarely into the side of Jones' skull.

Nice! I didn't know that about Eaton. Looks like he had the guns to back it up too, Alexi on the other hand while a great rider looked like a stiff breeze could blow him over.

In the early 80's, Nasbar had two nice DB steel bikes (Tange tubing I think), one longer 41" wheelbase tourer model and a 22.5lb 39" wheelbase racer (no eyelets) equipped with Shimano600EX that went on sale for $325! A sweet deal at the time when the typical eye-talian Columbus SL bike with NR went for about a grand, plus or minus.

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So not the really fast one then...

He's the one with the lump on the side of his noggin.

I am surprised Alexi didn't deck him. Damn! Alexi was one of the most fun guys in the pack, back then.

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Yeah...trial it before the hacksaw comes out of the toolbox. I'll be interested in hearing what you think of the ride...when it warms up.

Its time for an update. The bike had see a good share of my miles and is functioning very well. I was hesitant about the short top tube and the long stem, but after a few rides I adjusted to the handling. The bike is now my favorite, and I use it on my fastest group rides. The ride is good, as comfortable as my steel frame and it is stiff for good power transfer. The Tiagra shift gear is great.

I ended up flipping the stem and dropping it down a spacer to have a pretty agressive position. The only other change I may make is to swap out the 12-28 cassette with a 12-25 or less.

No graphics yet for the frame - at some point I will have to put some art on that canvas.

Cool. Nashbar bargains have been a part of the cycling scene for 40 years. I've often thought about building a complete no-name bike from Nashbar deals.

One of the best frames I've owned was a Nashbar decal-less Romic 531 that was brazed up in Houston, Texas.

See this link for the history of Romic: http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~rpinder/Romic.html

IIRC, I got a hand-brazed frame, fork at shimaNO headset for $75!

This is a pic of the builder, Ray Gasiorowski, finishing a 1950 race:

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And yeah, I've been wanting to ride one of Nasnbar's carbon no-name frames for a couple years.

My avatar pic is of a Nashbar road bike winning the Milk Race in GB.

Ride that bike with pride, Maydog! There's a hellova lot of cycling history AND a great price that comes with those closeout deals and cheesy sales flyers!

I didn't even buy it from Nashbar, the frame was second hand form Ebay. I do buy a lot of wares from them - their returned items have rare gems once and a while.