My theory about Tom Boonen

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:42:00 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>

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He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

I'm pretty sure Sean Kelly did that and would suspect other riders
have as well, such as perhaps Zabel.
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Ryan Cousineau said:

He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

My theory is that he should try training. Specialized might sell more
bikes if he wasn't lame.

Quoted message said:

He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

Hm. What's the latest in the Tour that a rider has worn green without
winning a stage?

Virenque won, what, 7 KOM jerseys? Did he win a stage each year? I seem to
recall at least one in which he didn't. More difficult to do now, since they
end-loaded the points system.

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He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

Hm. What's the latest in the Tour that a rider has worn green without
winning a stage?

(The answer "Credit Agricole, last stage" will be summarily rejected,
but LIVEDRUNK thanks you for your witticism.)

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He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

Too late. The first was Stan Ockers in 1955.

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Hm. What's the latest in the Tour that a rider has worn green without
winning a stage?

Our friend Thor Hushovd in 2005.

Benjo

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

Hm. What's the latest in the Tour that a rider has worn green without
winning a stage?

Virenque won, what, 7 KOM jerseys? Did he win a stage each year? I seem to
recall at least one in which he didn't. More difficult to do now, since
they end-loaded the points system.

It happened twice that he hadn't won a stage (1996, 1999), just like Trueba,
the first winner in 1933, and many others.

Benjo

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benjo maso said:

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He's trying to become the first person to win the Points jersey without
winning a stage.

Too late. The first was Stan Ockers in 1955.

Huh. By the example of recent years, I would have thought it nearly
impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1955_Tour_de_France
http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf_1954_1963/tdf1955.php

I see that back then, they were using the "lowest points wins" format.

http://www.cvccbike.com/tour/eddy/green.htm

This would have made it far easier for Ockers to win green (consistently
high finishes would do it, but you'd still have to get near the front of
the sprints.

Ockers had an average finishing position of a bit better than 15th. So
it's fair to say the 1959-onward point classification is an entirely
different animal. Though I'm sure that the points scoring system has
varied in lesser ways from year to year in the modern era.

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Quoted message said:

Hm. What's the latest in the Tour that a rider has worn green without
winning a stage?

Our friend Thor Hushovd in 2005.

Benjo

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