My preferred drug.

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Callistus Valerius

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I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a
boost, no kidding.

Yep, a boost toward slow suicide along with scores of
other problems. Only ignorant people smoke. Promoting it
is even worse.

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I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a
boost, no kidding.

Do they test for it, is it a banned substance and is it
performance enhancing?

Don't be an asswipe. Despite what you might choose to
believe, many intelligent people smoke because its relaxing
or because they simply enjoy
it. Like many activities, smoking too much (as many smokers
do) can have serious health consequences. But smoking
occasionally (e.g., 3-4 time per week) results in no
serious health consequences.

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Callistus Valerius

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I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a
boost, no kidding.

Yep, a boost toward slow suicide along with scores of
other problems.

Only

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ignorant people smoke. Promoting it is even worse.

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Do they test for it, is it a banned substance and is it
performance enhancing?

If you get a life insurance policy, they test for
nicotine in your blood. And yes, it is performance
enhancing. Some people I know wear the patch, where they
want to foster more blood vessel growth to muscles.

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Don't be an asswipe. Despite what you might choose to
believe, many intelligent people smoke because its
relaxing or because they simply enjoy
it.

Intelligence, like so many other things, can be
selective.

Like many activities, smoking too much (as many smokers
do) can have

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serious health consequences. But smoking occasionally
(e.g., 3-4 time per week) results in no serious health
consequences.

Well, it stands to reason that less is better, but
can you provide references?

Steve

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Callistus Valerius

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I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a
boost, no kidding.

Yep, a boost toward slow suicide along with scores of
other problems.

Only

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ignorant people smoke. Promoting it is even worse.

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Originally posted by Callistus Valer
I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a boost,
no kidding.

I think you just like the way people look at you when you're riding and smoking---like you're different from the rest of the World. You can look fit (I presume) and still smoke.

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Callistus Valer said:

I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a
boost, no kidding.

I think you just like the way people look at you when
you're riding and smoking---like you're different from
the rest of the World. You can look fit (I presume) and
still smoke.

You can ride well too. Ask Dave Bruylandts.

Jeff

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Do they test for it, is it a banned substance and is it
performance enhancing?

If you get a life insurance policy, they test for
nicotine in your blood. And yes, it is performance
enhancing. Some people I know wear the patch, where
they want to foster more blood vessel growth to
muscles.

It's more effective when taken as a suppository.

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I think you just like the way people look at you when
you're riding and smoking---like you're different from
the rest of the World. You can look fit (I presume) and
still smoke.

Have you ever tried to light a cigarette at 20+mph? I
try not to singe the eyebrows with the blowtorch I have.

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Well, it stands to reason that less is better, but can you
provide references?

Steve

it's like anything. a glass a wine, occasionally, does
nothing. A jug a day, lands you in the hospital.

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Like many activities, smoking too much (as many smokers
do) can have

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serious health consequences. But smoking occasionally
(e.g., 3-4 time

per

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week) results in no serious health consequences.

Well, it stands to reason that less is better, but can you
provide references?

Steve

Here's a good reference on the impact of smoking:

forces.orgindex.htmOpen ↗

including its potential benefits:

forces.orgnicotine.htmOpen ↗

Callistus Valerius said:

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Well, it stands to reason that less is better, but can
you provide references?

Steve

it's like anything. a glass a wine, occasionally, does
nothing. A jug a day, lands you in the hospital.

Actually, as you probably know, a glass of wine a day
improves blood lipid profile.

Steve

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Like many activities, smoking too much (as many
smokers do) can have

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serious health consequences. But smoking occasionally
(e.g., 3-4 time

per

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week) results in no serious health consequences.

Well, it stands to reason that less is better, but can
you provide references?

Steve

Here's a good reference on the impact of smoking:

forces.orgindex.htmOpen ↗

including its potential benefits:

forces.orgnicotine.htmOpen ↗

Wonderful stuff. Wonder who's funding this "research".

Steve

--
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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
dentaltwins.comdentaltwins.comOpen ↗

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"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Like many activities, smoking too much (as many
smokers do) can have

Quoted message said:

serious health consequences. But smoking occasionally
(e.g., 3-4 time

per

Quoted message said:

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week) results in no serious health consequences.

Well, it stands to reason that less is better, but can
you provide references?

Steve

Here's a good reference on the impact of smoking:

forces.orgindex.htmOpen ↗

including its potential benefits:

forces.orgnicotine.htmOpen ↗

BTW, while I don't endorse nicotine use, it's the tars
that contain the carcinogens. Statistics are funny
things. There are probably plenty of people who can
smoke with impunity. My grandfather smoked until he was
90. But right now, we can only tell who can safely smoke
retrospectively. There are so, so many negative effects
of tobacco use (smoked or not) that any message that
well, maybe it's OK if only...is pretty abhorent to me.
Off my soapbox...

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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Originally posted by Jeff Jones
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Callistus Valer said:

I prefer not to hide my drug of choice. I just sit up,
hands off, and light a cigarette. It does give you a
boost, no kidding.

I think you just like the way people look at you when
you're riding and smoking---like you're different from
the rest of the World. You can look fit (I presume) and
still smoke.

You can ride well too. Ask Dave Bruylandts.

Jeff

I totally believe you can party hard and smoke tons of cigs and still be a great racer. But it puts a lot more stress on your body, especially when you're trying to recover and the smoke raises your HR by 10 bpm. I have seen Harm Jansen the Aussie rider on Navigators smoke. They're both gutsy hard ass racers too. That has the most influence in their success of course.

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Do they test for it, is it a banned substance and is
it performance enhancing?

If you get a life insurance policy, they test for
nicotine in your
blood. And yes, it is performance enhancing. Some people
I know wear

the

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patch, where they want to foster more blood vessel
growth to muscles.

It's more effective when taken as a suppository.

You mean you are blowing smoke?

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There are so, so many negative effects of tobacco use
(smoked or not)

that

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any message that well, maybe it's OK if only...is pretty
abhorent to me.

Steve, as a DDS shouldn't you be telling it like it is. Oral
cancers are common enough among tobacco users. And it isn't
as if it were such a great surprise - my grandfather had a
medical book distributed by the Hudson Bay Company that was
published around 1856 or so that plainly said that tobacco
was the cause of most oral cancers.

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There are so, so many negative effects of tobacco use
(smoked or not)

that

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any message that well, maybe it's OK if only...is pretty
abhorent to me.

Steve, as a DDS shouldn't you be telling it like it is.
Oral cancers are common enough among tobacco users. And it
isn't as if it were such a great surprise - my grandfather
had a medical book distributed by the Hudson Bay Company
that was published around 1856 or so that plainly said
that tobacco was the cause of most oral cancers.

Absolutely true. Also potentiated by alcohol use.

Steve

BJC said:

Harm Jansen the Aussie

Dutch.