My *obsession* with trans-fats

Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1192533923.994425.319470
@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Quoted message said:

I've been in touch with an officer of the PTO at my son's school about
eliminating hydrogenated fats 100% from the food served there.
Supposedly, as of January, the school with be hydrogenated fat-free.
Taking that step will also help raise the issue to all the parents.
This is all good.

Good, once that obsession is fulfilled, you can go onto other
obsessions........

http://www.newstarget.com/008094.html

Quote......
This is what we have in society today. It's a degenerate society -- The
United States of Degenerate America. It is no exaggeration to say that
the population of the United States of America is the single most
physically and mentally diseased population ever observed in the history
of human civilization.

So why do we live in such a degenerate society? What's the cause of this
degeneration? There are basically two causes. Primarily, there's an
utter lack of nutrition, both in our national food supply and in our
avoidance of sunlight and nutritional supplements. Secondly, the
American people's minds and bodies are being poisoned by prescription
drugs, food additives, metabolic disruptors, artificial light, toxic
chemicals in personal care products, household cleaners, and so on.

Unquote....

That should keep you busy for awhile.

PeterLucas said:

Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1192533923.994425.319470
@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Quoted message said:

I've been in touch with an officer of the PTO at my son's school about
eliminating hydrogenated fats 100% from the food served there.
Supposedly, as of January, the school with be hydrogenated fat-free.
Taking that step will also help raise the issue to all the parents.
This is all good.

Good, once that obsession is fulfilled, you can go onto other
obsessions........

http://www.newstarget.com/008094.html

Quote......
This is what we have in society today. It's a degenerate society -- The
United States of Degenerate America. It is no exaggeration to say that
the population of the United States of America is the single most
physically and mentally diseased population ever observed in the history
of human civilization.

So why do we live in such a degenerate society? What's the cause of this
degeneration? There are basically two causes. Primarily, there's an
utter lack of nutrition, both in our national food supply and in our
avoidance of sunlight and nutritional supplements. Secondly, the
American people's minds and bodies are being poisoned by prescription
drugs, food additives, metabolic disruptors, artificial light, toxic
chemicals in personal care products, household cleaners, and so on.

Unquote....

That should keep you busy for awhile.

Do you think that I'm some kind of apologist for the USA? Jeez.

The few lyrics I've posted here...

--Bryan
Visit Bobo Bonobo's Mortuary and Sausage Emporium,
on the Web at:
http://www.myspace.com/BoboBonobo

For your safety and protection, this sig. file has been
thoroughly tested on laboratory animals.

PeterLucas said:

Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1192533923.994425.319470
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Quoted message said:

I've been in touch with an officer of the PTO at my son's school about
eliminating hydrogenated fats 100% from the food served there.
Supposedly, as of January, the school with be hydrogenated fat-free.
Taking that step will also help raise the issue to all the parents.
This is all good.

Good, once that obsession is fulfilled, you can go onto other
obsessions........

http://www.newstarget.com/008094.html

Quote......
This is what we have in society today. It's a degenerate society -- The
United States of Degenerate America. It is no exaggeration to say that
the population of the United States of America is the single most
physically and mentally diseased population ever observed in the history
of human civilization.

So why do we live in such a degenerate society? What's the cause of this
degeneration? There are basically two causes. Primarily, there's an
utter lack of nutrition, both in our national food supply and in our
avoidance of sunlight and nutritional supplements. Secondly, the
American people's minds and bodies are being poisoned by prescription
drugs, food additives, metabolic disruptors, artificial light, toxic
chemicals in personal care products, household cleaners, and so on.

Artificial light? How else are we supposed to get anything done? We
can't
all frolic outdoors all day long, you know. Some of us have real
jobs. We can't
all be "a consumer health advocate with a strong interest in personal
health, the
environment and the power of nature to help us all heal."

Of course, on weekends when the weather is good, I'm outside almost
all
day, gardening, building garages (well, one garage), etc.

It's satisfying to work with my hands on the weekend when I've been
working with
my brain all week. A change is as good as a holiday (or however that
old saw
runs).

Cindy Hamilton

Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1192622824.127453.191810
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Quoted message said:

That should keep you busy for awhile.

Do you think that I'm some kind of apologist for the USA? Jeez.

Not at all. I see you for what you are.

A ranting grandstander on a very small soapbox.

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The few lyrics I've posted here...

Are [censored]. Trust me.

Cindy Hamilton <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

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http://www.newstarget.com/008094.html

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This is what we have in society today. It's a degenerate society --

The

Quoted message said:

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United States of Degenerate America. It is no exaggeration to say

that

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the population of the United States of America is the single most
physically and mentally diseased population ever observed in the

history

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of human civilization.

So why do we live in such a degenerate society? What's the cause of

this

Quoted message said:

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degeneration? There are basically two causes. Primarily, there's an
utter lack of nutrition, both in our national food supply and in our
avoidance of sunlight and nutritional supplements. Secondly, the
American people's minds and bodies are being poisoned by prescription
drugs, food additives, metabolic disruptors, artificial light, toxic
chemicals in personal care products, household cleaners, and so on.

Artificial light? How else are we supposed to get anything done? We
can't
all frolic outdoors all day long, you know. Some of us have real
jobs. We can't
all be "a consumer health advocate with a strong interest in personal
health, the
environment and the power of nature to help us all heal."

[Snip the rest ........]

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out there
that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:32:20 +0200 (CEST), PeterLucas <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1192533923.994425.319470
@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Quoted message said:

I've been in touch with an officer of the PTO at my son's school about
eliminating hydrogenated fats 100% from the food served there.
Supposedly, as of January, the school with be hydrogenated fat-free.
Taking that step will also help raise the issue to all the parents.
This is all good.

Good, once that obsession is fulfilled, you can go onto other
obsessions........

http://www.newstarget.com/008094.html

Quote......
This is what we have in society today. It's a degenerate society -- The
United States of Degenerate America. It is no exaggeration to say that
the population of the United States of America is the single most
physically and mentally diseased population ever observed in the history
of human civilization.

So why do we live in such a degenerate society? What's the cause of this
degeneration? There are basically two causes. Primarily, there's an
utter lack of nutrition, both in our national food supply and in our
avoidance of sunlight and nutritional supplements. Secondly, the
American people's minds and bodies are being poisoned by prescription
drugs, food additives, metabolic disruptors, artificial light, toxic
chemicals in personal care products, household cleaners, and so on.

Unquote....

That should keep you busy for awhile.

how's the australian space program going?

your pal,
blake

PeterLucas said:

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out there
that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!-

Oh. Sorry. Silly me.

I'll open this here desk drawer and see if I have any chill pills. I
know
I've already eaten today's chocolate ration.

Cindy

Cindy Hamilton <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

PeterLucas said:

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out

there

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!-

Oh. Sorry. Silly me.

I'll open this here desk drawer and see if I have any chill pills. I
know
I've already eaten today's chocolate ration.

LOL!! If it's that 70-85% cocoa type (Lindt?) no wonder you're jumpy!!
;-)

http://www.chocosphere.com/Html/Products/lindt.html

Personally, I'm not much of a dark chocolate man myself....... actually,
I very *rarely* eat chocolate.

Maybe 1-2 Cherry Ripes per year and that's about it.

http://www.cadbury.com.au/sites/cadbury/index.php?pageId=59

If you have a hankering to try one.......

http://about-australia-shop.com/product_info.php/products_id/419

http://www.greataussiefood.com.au/showProduct/CACR

http://www.everythingaustralian.com/cachrieaegg.html

http://www.everythingaustralian.com/lolliescandies.html

YOU IS A RARE NUT. AUSSSIE SISSY PETER, AND LETTIN YOURE FELLOW NUT BAGS
DOWN WITH ALL THAT SPEWING OF GARBAGES..

FATTY

"PeterLucas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cindy Hamilton <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

PeterLucas said:

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out

there

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!-

Oh. Sorry. Silly me.

I'll open this here desk drawer and see if I have any chill pills. I
know
I've already eaten today's chocolate ration.

LOL!! If it's that 70-85% cocoa type (Lindt?) no wonder you're jumpy!!
;-)

http://www.chocosphere.com/Html/Products/lindt.html

Personally, I'm not much of a dark chocolate man myself....... actually,
I very *rarely* eat chocolate.

Maybe 1-2 Cherry Ripes per year and that's about it.

http://www.cadbury.com.au/sites/cadbury/index.php?pageId=59

If you have a hankering to try one.......

http://about-australia-shop.com/product_info.php/products_id/419

http://www.greataussiefood.com.au/showProduct/CACR

http://www.everythingaustralian.com/cachrieaegg.html

http://www.everythingaustralian.com/lolliescandies.html

Cindy Hamilton said:

PeterLucas said:

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out there
that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!-

Oh. Sorry. Silly me.

I'll open this here desk drawer and see if I have any chill pills. I
know
I've already eaten today's chocolate ration.

Cindy

in america, the chocolate ration has been increased to 20 grams a
week.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy said:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:48:27 -0700, Cindy Hamilton

Quoted message said:

On Oct 17, 9:43 am, PeterLucas <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out there
that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!-

Quoted message said:

Oh. Sorry. Silly me.

Quoted message said:

I'll open this here desk drawer and see if I have any chill pills. I
know
I've already eaten today's chocolate ration.

Quoted message said:

Cindy

in america, the chocolate ration has been increased to 20 grams a
week.

Oops. I eat something like 30 grams a day. What's that? I think the
police are breaking the door down to bust me.

Cindy Hamilton

PeterLucas said:

Cindy Hamilton <[email hidden]> wrote innews:[email hidden]:

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http://www.newstarget.com/008094.html

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Quote......
This is what we have in society today. It's a degenerate society --

The

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

United States of Degenerate America. It is no exaggeration to say

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the population of the United States of America is the single most
physically and mentally diseased population ever observed in the

history

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of human civilization.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So why do we live in such a degenerate society? What's the cause of

this

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

degeneration? There are basically two causes. Primarily, there's an
utter lack of nutrition, both in our national food supply and in our
avoidance of sunlight and nutritional supplements. Secondly, the
American people's minds and bodies are being poisoned by prescription
drugs, food additives, metabolic disruptors, artificial light, toxic
chemicals in personal care products, household cleaners, and so on.

Quoted message said:

Artificial light? How else are we supposed to get anything done? We
can't
all frolic outdoors all day long, you know. Some of us have real
jobs. We can't
all be "a consumer health advocate with a strong interest in personal
health, the
environment and the power of nature to help us all heal."

[Snip the rest ........]

Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out there
that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!

Loopy? There are much calmer voices out there with the same agenda:
http://www.newstarget.com/021542.html

--Bryan

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Loopy? There are much calmer voices out there with the same agenda:
http://www.newstarget.com/021542.html

Do you consider, "are you feeding your family poison?" to be a calmer
voice?

I predict based on my experience but absolutely no knowledge, that
within five years it will be "discovered" that trans fats are no more
harmful than other saturated (naturally hydrogenated) fats that they
resemble.

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Loopy? There are much calmer voices out there with the same agenda:
http://www.newstarget.com/021542.html

Do you consider, "are you feeding your family poison?"
to be a calmer voice?

Calmer than mine. I openly say that I think that the purveyors of the
[censored] (corporate execs) deserve to be killed in the bloodiest and most
public way, and that I'd personally enjoy being the one to slit their
throats.

Quoted message said:

I predict based on my experience but absolutely no knowledge, that
within five years it will be "discovered" that trans fats are no more
harmful than other saturated (naturally hydrogenated) fats that they
resemble.

Are you intentionally trying to look stupid? People who predict based
on "absolutely no knowledge" are just talking [censored]. Do you know what
the prefixes *trans* and *cis* mean? At least get a little knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fats

--Bryan

Cindy Hamilton <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

blake murphy said:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:48:27 -0700, Cindy Hamilton

Quoted message said:

On Oct 17, 9:43 am, PeterLucas <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

> Cindy........... I was showing Byran that there are *others* out
> there that are just as loopy and obsessed as he is.

Quoted message said:

> Take a chill pill and don't stress!!!!-

Quoted message said:

Oh. Sorry. Silly me.

Quoted message said:

I'll open this here desk drawer and see if I have any chill pills.
I know
I've already eaten today's chocolate ration.

Quoted message said:

Cindy

in america, the chocolate ration has been increased to 20 grams a
week.

Oops. I eat something like 30 grams a day. What's that? I think the
police are breaking the door down to bust me.

*RUN AWAY!! RUN AWAY!!!!!!*

Then after all that running, you can have some more chocolate ;-)

Dan Abel <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dabel-F643AD.16133118102007@c-61-
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Loopy? There are much calmer voices out there with the same agenda:
http://www.newstarget.com/021542.html

Do you consider, "are you feeding your family poison?" to be a calmer
voice?

I predict based on my experience but absolutely no knowledge, that
within five years it will be "discovered" that trans fats are no more
harmful than other saturated (naturally hydrogenated) fats that they
resemble.

Yep. I seem to remember way back when the 'trend' at that time was to say
that milk was bad for you!!!

There's always going to be Chicken Littles in the world running around
screeching about this or that.

The headbanger Bonobo seems to be one of them.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Loopy? There are much calmer voices out there with the same agenda:
http://www.newstarget.com/021542.html

Do you consider, "are you feeding your family poison?"
to be a calmer voice?

Calmer than mine.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I predict based on my experience but absolutely no knowledge, that
within five years it will be "discovered" that trans fats are no more
harmful than other saturated (naturally hydrogenated) fats that they
resemble.

Are you intentionally trying to look stupid?

No, I can do that without effort.

Quoted message said:

People who predict based
on "absolutely no knowledge" are just talking [censored].

Well, at least you admit it.

Quoted message said:

Do you know what
the prefixes *trans* and *cis* mean? At least get a little knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fats

A "little" knowledge is right. Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable.
When they include disclaimers for major portions of the article, saying
that they will be whacked out if the authors don't provide reliable
citations, I have to take the article with a grain of salt.

Don't get me wrong. Trans-fats should not be part of a regular diet.
They are at least as bad as other saturated fats, and maybe worse.
Still, I ate a one pound steak a couple of weeks ago, with other
saturated fats. I do this a couple of times a year. That isn't going
to kill me, at least not soon. Still, I minimize my consumption of
saturated fats, including trans-fats. It just isn't healthy. An
occasional use of saturated fats, including trans-fats, won't hurt me if
I consume a smaller portion, or don't indulge very often.

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bobo Bonobo(R) said:

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Loopy? There are much calmer voices out there with the same agenda:
>http://www.newstarget.com/021542.html

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Do you consider, "are you feeding your family poison?"
to be a calmer voice?

Quoted message said:

Calmer than mine.

Quoted message said:

I predict based on my experience but absolutely no knowledge, that
within five years it will be "discovered" that trans fats are no more
harmful than other saturated (naturally hydrogenated) fats that they
resemble.

Quoted message said:

Are you intentionally trying to look stupid?

No, I can do that without effort.

Quoted message said:

People who predict based
on "absolutely no knowledge" are just talking [censored].

Well, at least you admit it.

Quoted message said:

Do you know what
the prefixes *trans* and *cis* mean? At least get a little knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fats

A "little" knowledge is right. Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable.
When they include disclaimers for major portions of the article, saying
that they will be whacked out if the authors don't provide reliable
citations, I have to take the article with a grain of salt.

Don't get me wrong. Trans-fats should not be part of a regular diet.
They are at least as bad as other saturated fats, and maybe worse.
Still, I ate a one pound steak a couple of weeks ago, with other
saturated fats. I do this a couple of times a year. That isn't going
to kill me, at least not soon. Still, I minimize my consumption of
saturated fats, including trans-fats. It just isn't healthy. An
occasional use of saturated fats, including trans-fats, won't hurt me if
I consume a smaller portion, or don't indulge very often.

No. They are not "at least as bad as other saturated fats, and maybe
worse." They are WAY, WAY WORSE! What you wrote is what so many
people commonly believe, or at least used to believe. A stick of
butter is probably better for you than a little pat of stick
margarine, and butter is immensely pleasurable.

It is ridiculous that they still allow that [censored] in food.

--Bryan

One time on Usenet said:

Still, I minimize my consumption of
saturated fats, including trans-fats. It just isn't healthy. An
occasional use of saturated fats, including trans-fats, won't hurt me if
I consume a smaller portion, or don't indulge very often.

Oh my, a voice of reason! Isn't that a sign of the RFC apocalypse..?

--
Jani in WA