my new town bike

Erik Sandblom said:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

All looks very nice, but it's not a /proper/ picture of a New Toy until
it's in the kitchen! ;-)

Pete.
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Peter Clinch said:

Erik Sandblom said:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

All looks very nice, but it's not a /proper/ picture of a New Toy until
it's in the kitchen! ;-)

Be fair.
I suspect its in front of a very large fridge ;-)

John B

Erik Sandblom said:

Hello

Thanks for the primer on uncomfortable frame geometry a while back. I
didn't get the bike with the more relaxed frame, because it had a Sturmey
front hub brake which was too lethargic. I have now bought my new town
bike:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7

Here's a juicier picture:http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

Nice. That looks to be the modern take on the classic Swedish utility
bike and what I saw most of in shops when I was last over there. My
relatives all ride variants of it. Monark puts all the money in the
hub, and puts on less dear post, bars, etc, and if I remember
correctly, they run from $300-500 bucks, which is as much as anybody
should spend on a bike that gets locked at the train station and such.
Now all you need are those nice throwover European style shopping bags
in a nice plaid.

Erik Sandblom said the following on 19/03/2007 13:35:

Quoted message said:

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

Not juicy enough - no marmite, or equivalent local brew ;-)

Quoted message said:

I would like to add a front basket

Splutter!!!!

Enjoy your bike!

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Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

Erik Sandblom said the following on 19/03/2007 13:35:

Quoted message said:

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

Ooooo I like!

Den 2007-03-19 14:38:26 skrev Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Erik Sandblom said:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7
Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

All looks very nice, but it's not a /proper/ picture of a New Toy until
it's in the kitchen! ;-)

Kitchen's being redone, so in the spirit of things, the bikes decided to
go out and have a nice time together.

http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_1.jpg
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_2.jpg
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_3.jpg

There's some preventative former kitchen flooring between the two bikes.
Highly recommended. Folds flat. I didn't lash the B very well for the
picture, but I've taken it on the back before. Works fine.

The first pic shows the swept back bars and the larger rear sprocket. The
third one is a nice closeup of the Schmidt and Inoled, also exposing the
extensive temporary cabling. The bikes are vegan, so no Brooks.

Erik Sandblom

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Den 2007-03-19 15:44:40 skrev Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet>:

Quoted message said:

Erik Sandblom said the following on 19/03/2007 13:35:

Quoted message said:

I would like to add a front basket

Splutter!!!!

Well I was thinking if Joey can have a man's bag, I can have a basket.

http://www.friends-tv.org/zz513.html

Quoted message said:

Enjoy your bike!

:-)

Erik Sandblom
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Den 2007-03-19 14:38:26 skrev Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Erik Sandblom said:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7
Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

All looks very nice, but it's not a /proper/ picture of a New Toy until
it's in the kitchen! ;-)

Kitchen's being redone, so in the spirit of things, the bikes decided to
go out and have a nice time together.

http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_1.jpg
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_2.jpg
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_3.jpg

Isn't that sort of thing illegal in Sweden? Miscegenation, or some such
thing? I'm sure it's illegal in Alabama...

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"Erik Sandblom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hello

Thanks for the primer on uncomfortable frame geometry a while back. I
didn't get the bike with the more relaxed frame, because it had a Sturmey
front hub brake which was too lethargic. I have now bought my new town
bike:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

I had it geared down with 22 cogs rear, and though the Shimano seven-speed
isn't as nice and smooth as my three-speeds, it's great to have a gear for
every occasion. One slight complication is that the second gear is better
then first to start off in. I'm not used to having to think about what
gear I'm in.

Why on earth not a fully closed chainguard? Every bike with a gearhub and
not a fully closed chainguard is a stupid design.

Lou

"Erik Sandblom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Hello

Thanks for the primer on uncomfortable frame geometry a while back. I
didn't get the bike with the more relaxed frame, because it had a Sturmey
front hub brake which was too lethargic. I have now bought my new town
bike:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

I had it geared down with 22 cogs rear, and though the Shimano seven-speed
isn't as nice and smooth as my three-speeds, it's great to have a gear for
every occasion. One slight complication is that the second gear is better
then first to start off in. I'm not used to having to think about what
gear I'm in.

Why on earth not a fully closed chainguard? Every bike with a gearhub and
not a fully closed chainguard is a stupid design.

Lou

Erik Sandblom said the following on 19/03/2007 14:54:

Quoted message said:

http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_2.jpg

Oi - yer brakes are on the wrong way round :-)

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On Mar 19, 11:15 am, "Lou Holtman" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why on earth not a fully closed chainguard? Every bike with a gearhub and
not a fully closed chainguard is a stupid design.

Nice, you've insulted the entire Swedish bike industry. Expect a knock
on the door from a SWAT task force from Monark and Crescent. Swedish
bikes have traditionally had partial guards, meant more to protect the
pants. Some of the 40s and 50s guards are beautiful worked aluminum,
often with the bike's maker incorporated in script. A full guard has
its drawbacks as well and with a heavy duty nickel plated chain, it's
not the most important thing it once was.

Everybody can't ride a Dutch roadster, they're a [censored] in the hills of
Sweden. So are Pedersons for that matter...

Peter Clinch said:

Erik Sandblom said:

http://www.monark.se/index.php?menu=herr&id=7

Here's a juicier picture:
http://www.cycleurope.se/downloadfiles/Y7M_907_5501_svart_H.jpg

All looks very nice, but it's not a /proper/ picture of a New Toy until
it's in the kitchen! ;-)

Pete.

that does depend on the kitchen i recently had my old mountain bike
given a new life by handing it to a local bike shop (1) and getting a
nice fast road bike back, it would't really fit in the kitchen... which
is a compact afair.

roger

(1) got to love having local bike shops

landotter said:

On Mar 19, 11:15 am, "Lou Holtman" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why on earth not a fully closed chainguard? Every bike with a gearhub and
not a fully closed chainguard is a stupid design.

Nice, you've insulted the entire Swedish bike industry.

Not intent to insult anybody, only the design.

Quoted message said:

Expect a knock
on the door from a SWAT task force from Monark and Crescent. Swedish
bikes have traditionally had partial guards, meant more to protect the
pants. Some of the 40s and 50s guards are beautiful worked aluminum,
often with the bike's maker incorporated in script.

Beauty before function? That's not Swedish.

Quoted message said:

A full guard has
its drawbacks as well and with a heavy duty nickel plated chain, it's
not the most important thing it once was.

Yes it is.

Quoted message said:

Everybody can't ride a Dutch roadster, they're a [censored] in the hills of
Sweden. So are Pedersons for that matter...

Is there a difference between a gearhub equipped bike with a partial
chainguard and a gearhub equiped bike with a fully closed chainguard?

Lou
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Den 2007-03-19 17:49:20 skrev landotter <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

On Mar 19, 11:15 am, "Lou Holtman" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why on earth not a fully closed chainguard? Every bike with a gearhub
and
not a fully closed chainguard is a stupid design.

Nice, you've insulted the entire Swedish bike industry. Expect a knock
on the door from a SWAT task force from Monark and Crescent. Swedish
bikes have traditionally had partial guards, meant more to protect the
pants. Some of the 40s and 50s guards are beautiful worked aluminum,
often with the bike's maker incorporated in script. A full guard has
its drawbacks as well and with a heavy duty nickel plated chain, it's
not the most important thing it once was.

Everybody can't ride a Dutch roadster, they're a [censored] in the hills of
Sweden. So are Pedersons for that matter...

Full chaincases are nice. I don't really know why they aren't more common.
One reason might be that they make it a little harder to remove the wheel.
The new ones are plastic and very light and inexpensive. Since they cover
the whole front of the chain, they also do a good job of protecting the
chain from spray.

What gets me going is, why don't bikes have proper mud flaps? I went out
and bought one which will do very nicely, but I need to drill holes in the
mudguard and procure suitable non-rusty screws to put it on. I bet it
would have taken five seconds to have the factory machine do it. Of course
the parts would all have to be flown twice round the globe, but still.

Erik Sandblom
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On 19/03/2007 17:48, Erik Sandblom said,

Quoted message said:

What gets me going is, why don't bikes have proper mud flaps?

I'm with you on that one. I keep meaning to knock something up for my
commuting bike. I've had this bike for 10 years next week, but one day
I'll get around to knocking up a mudflap!

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http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Lou Holtman said:

landotter said:

On Mar 19, 11:15 am, "Lou Holtman" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why on earth not a fully closed chainguard? Every bike with a gearhub
and
not a fully closed chainguard is a stupid design.

Nice, you've insulted the entire Swedish bike industry.

Not intent to insult anybody, only the design.

The fitted chainset looks suspiciously like a version for a fully
enclosed chainguard 😉

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Den 2007-03-19 16:15:05 skrev Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Erik
Sandblom

(') said:

Kitchen's being redone, so in the spirit of things, the bikes decided to
go out and have a nice time together.

http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_1.jpg
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_2.jpg
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_3.jpg

Isn't that sort of thing illegal in Sweden? Miscegenation, or some such
thing? I'm sure it's illegal in Alabama...

That just makes it a little more exciting.

Erik Sandblom

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Den 2007-03-19 18:51:23 skrev Paul Boyd <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

On 19/03/2007 17:48, Erik Sandblom said,

Quoted message said:

What gets me going is, why don't bikes have proper mud flaps?

I'm with you on that one. I keep meaning to knock something up for my
commuting bike. I've had this bike for 10 years next week, but one day
I'll get around to knocking up a mudflap!

The Brompton has a mudflap, but it's too short. I lengthened mine by
stapling some plastic to it. The staples have not yet rusted, despite
being subjected to salty slush. I got the material from a foam cushion
store. It works quite well except when very windy, when the flap simply
goes horizontal. It needs to be stiffer or heavier.

You can make out the centre staple to the right of the brake lever in this
picture
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_2.jpg

And another staple on the left of this picture
http://eriksrailnews.com/bike/monark_brompton_3.jpg

Erik Sandblom

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