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  1. Hi All,

    For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:

    http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
    http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg

    Spec:

    Windsor "The Hour" economy track bike
    Selle Italia FLX Gel Flow Eleganza (500 grams of pure comfort!)
    Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
    Cane Creek 200TT brake lever
    Campagnolo Chorus brake (I wish it were a cheaper black Xenon or
    Mirage, but I had the Chorus lying around)
    Michelin Pro Race 700x25 tires and tubes
    18T Surley cog
    Tacx Tao bottle cage

    This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
    so I haven't actually commuted with it yet, but I have taken it for a
    few short spins, and it seems like it will be quite suited to the task.
    The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
    hands.

    Joseph

  2. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:

    http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
    http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg

    Nice! What size is that frame?

    Quoted message said:

    Windsor "The Hour" economy track bike
    Selle Italia FLX Gel Flow Eleganza (500 grams of pure comfort!)
    Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
    Cane Creek 200TT brake lever
    Campagnolo Chorus brake (I wish it were a cheaper black Xenon or
    Mirage, but I had the Chorus lying around)
    Michelin Pro Race 700x25 tires and tubes
    18T Surley cog
    Tacx Tao bottle cage

    Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
    Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?

    Quoted message said:

    This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
    so I haven't actually commuted with it yet, but I have taken it for a
    few short spins, and it seems like it will be quite suited to the task.
    The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
    hands.

    Bullhorns are nice. I like multiple "hood" positions that you can have
    on them. Sometimes I wish I had drops too though. Just a thought: if
    I'm riding clips/straps on a fixie, they have to be metal straps. I get
    most of my stopping power and track stand control from pulling up on the
    pedals. Plastic clips just make me nervous.
    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:

    http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
    http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg

    Take it back! They left off all the cables, cogs and dangly bits!

    (Yeah, yeah... NICE. 🙂 )

  4. Paul Hobson said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:

    http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
    http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg

    Nice! What size is that frame?

    61cm center-top.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Windsor "The Hour" economy track bike
    Selle Italia FLX Gel Flow Eleganza (500 grams of pure comfort!)
    Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
    Cane Creek 200TT brake lever
    Campagnolo Chorus brake (I wish it were a cheaper black Xenon or
    Mirage, but I had the Chorus lying around)
    Michelin Pro Race 700x25 tires and tubes
    18T Surley cog
    Tacx Tao bottle cage

    Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
    Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?

    I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
    what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
    So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
    is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
    into the swing of things.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
    so I haven't actually commuted with it yet, but I have taken it for a
    few short spins, and it seems like it will be quite suited to the task.
    The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
    hands.

    Bullhorns are nice. I like multiple "hood" positions that you can have
    on them. Sometimes I wish I had drops too though. Just a thought: if
    I'm riding clips/straps on a fixie, they have to be metal straps. I get
    most of my stopping power and track stand control from pulling up on the
    pedals. Plastic clips just make me nervous.

    Most of the time I have my hands on the tops at the center with my
    fingers wrapped around the stem. I use the bull-horns when out of the
    saddle, and during "maneuvers". On my road bike I only ever use the
    drops when I am in a group and/or really hammering. A situation that
    isn't going to happen on this bike, so I don't think I'll miss the
    drops.

    Metal XL clips are on order, and I have a double set of laminated
    straps on the way too!

    Joseph


  5. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    18T Surley cog
    Tacx Tao bottle cage

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Hobson said:

    Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
    Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?

    Quoted message said:

    I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
    what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
    So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
    is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
    into the swing of things.

    48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
    Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
    nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
    is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
    just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
    half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
    I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
    faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?

    Get well soon,

    \\paul
    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  6. Paul Hobson said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > 18T Surley cog
    > Tacx Tao bottle cage

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Hobson said:

    Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
    Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?

    Quoted message said:

    I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
    what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
    So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
    is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
    into the swing of things.

    48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
    Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
    nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
    is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
    just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
    half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
    I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
    faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?

    Georgia is hilly right? Do you need the 18 for hills or headwinds? I
    decided on the 18 due to the short hills around here, but that was
    before I got sick and lost 14kg. Even in my weakened state,
    purposefully taking it easy, I have zero problem on even the steepest
    of the hills that influenced my decision to go with an 18. 14kg (31
    lbs) makes a HUGE difference up hills.

    Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
    sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
    while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
    but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?

    Quoted message said:

    Get well soon,

    Will do! Thanks.

    Joseph

  7. Quoted message said:
    Paul Hobson said:
    Quoted message said:

    > [email hidden] wrote:
    >> 18T Surley cog
    >> Tacx Tao bottle cage
    Paul Hobson wrote:
    > Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
    > Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?


    Quoted message said:

    I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
    what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
    So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
    is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
    into the swing of things.


    48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
    Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
    nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
    is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
    just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
    half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
    I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
    faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?

    Georgia is hilly right? Do you need the 18 for hills or headwinds?

    Both. My 18 is fine up Atlanta's short, but steep hills. In Atlanta,
    whenever the temperature humidity is nice, the wind kicks up. When I've
    skimped on breakfast, I can struggle with either. Keep in mind, I'm 178
    cm tall and 61 kg, not exactly a powerhouse (5'10"-135 for no SI folk).
    But on a good day, I can get moving.

    Quoted message said:

    I
    decided on the 18 due to the short hills around here, but that was
    before I got sick and lost 14kg. Even in my weakened state,
    purposefully taking it easy, I have zero problem on even the steepest
    of the hills that influenced my decision to go with an 18. 14kg (31
    lbs) makes a HUGE difference up hills.

    Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
    sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
    while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
    but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?

    I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
    in the back of my head too.
    \\paul

  8. Paul Hobson said:
    Quoted message said:
    Paul Hobson said:

    >> [email hidden] wrote:
    >>> 18T Surley cog
    >>> Tacx Tao bottle cage
    > Paul Hobson wrote:
    >> Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
    >> Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
    [email hidden] wrote:
    > I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
    > what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
    > So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
    > is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
    > into the swing of things.
    >
    48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
    Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
    nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
    is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
    just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
    half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
    I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
    faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?

    Georgia is hilly right? Do you need the 18 for hills or headwinds?

    Both. My 18 is fine up Atlanta's short, but steep hills. In Atlanta,
    whenever the temperature humidity is nice, the wind kicks up. When I've
    skimped on breakfast, I can struggle with either. Keep in mind, I'm 178
    cm tall and 61 kg, not exactly a powerhouse (5'10"-135 for no SI folk).
    But on a good day, I can get moving.

    I'm sure your hills are steeper than anything around here that I plan
    to attempt on this bike. Sometimes it's windy, but headwinds are my
    specialty. Even in my emaciated state, I'm still 195 lbs (6'3"😉 so
    there should be some power lurking in there someplace! Yesterday on my
    ride I saw a riding buddy I haven't seen for several weeks. The first
    thing out of his mouth was, "Oh my god! What happened to you!? You look
    like a twig!" I don't know what the moral of that story is, but maybe
    it is: Don't skimp on breakfast. (?)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I
    decided on the 18 due to the short hills around here, but that was
    before I got sick and lost 14kg. Even in my weakened state,
    purposefully taking it easy, I have zero problem on even the steepest
    of the hills that influenced my decision to go with an 18. 14kg (31
    lbs) makes a HUGE difference up hills.

    Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
    sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
    while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
    but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?

    I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
    in the back of my head too.

    I had knee problems at that age too, but they receeded with time, to
    the point where I don't consider it an issue anymore. How old are you?

    Joseph

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
    sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
    while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
    but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Hobson said:

    I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
    in the back of my head too.

    Quoted message said:

    I had knee problems at that age too, but they receeded with time, to
    the point where I don't consider it an issue anymore. How old are you?

    I'm just shy of 24 now. 99% sure that my knees are perfectly fine now.
    Right one can feel funny at times, but it's no big deal/in my head.
    When I was 13, my left knee got so bad, that over night it went from a
    nuisance to being so painful that I couldn't walk up or down stairs. I
    ended with it immobilized all summer. As such I never got to play on
    the all-star baseball team 🙁 I'm just paranoid.
    \\paul
    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  10. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:

    http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
    http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg

    awesome bike !!

    Quoted message said:

    Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar

    47cm is really wide 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    18T Surley cog

    48x18 is about 70" gear. I run little lower gear - 39x15 = 68". it is a
    lot of fun going up not-so-steep hills and even more fun is going
    downhills. Sometimes when i ride with my friends, i would ask for a
    rest-break at the bottom of the hill rather than on the top of the hill 😉

    Quoted message said:

    This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,

    just be careful of stupid thefts when locking up... it is so nice that
    it will catch the wrong eyes...

    Quoted message said:

    The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
    hands.

    some folks with large have double wrapped their handlebars - may be you
    can consider if it helps...

    enjoy your new ride, definitely it will cure all illness 🙂 get well soon...

    cheers,
    ravi

  11. Quoted message said:

    61cm center-top.

    perfect fit for me 🙂 now, where did you say you park it overnight 😉

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bullhorns are nice. I like multiple "hood" positions that you can have
    on them. Sometimes I wish I had drops too though. Just a thought: if
    I'm riding clips/straps on a fixie, they have to be metal straps. I get
    most of my stopping power and track stand control from pulling up on the
    pedals. Plastic clips just make me nervous.

    i have been riding on plastic clips and haven't had much trouble. Unlike
    you both i have drop bars and i like the hoods so much that i have both
    of them. my rear brake lever broke when i dropped it when practicing
    track-stand and i have never bothered to fix it...

    +ravi

  12. did you lace up the wheels yourself ? I am guessing it 32-spoke wheels.
    any reason for going 32 as against 36 ? What kind of hubs do you have on
    them ??

    i have found that it not always possible to go off-saddle when dodging
    potholes - especially during fast runs or downhills. i have found it
    almost impossible to spin fast off the saddle - more because i am afraid.

    also, have you weighed your bike yet ??

    +ravi

  13. Paul Hobson said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
    > sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
    > while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
    > but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Hobson said:

    I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
    in the back of my head too.

    Quoted message said:

    I had knee problems at that age too, but they receeded with time, to
    the point where I don't consider it an issue anymore. How old are you?

    I'm just shy of 24 now. 99% sure that my knees are perfectly fine now.
    Right one can feel funny at times, but it's no big deal/in my head.
    When I was 13, my left knee got so bad, that over night it went from a
    nuisance to being so painful that I couldn't walk up or down stairs. I
    ended with it immobilized all summer. As such I never got to play on
    the all-star baseball team 🙁 I'm just paranoid.
    \\paul

    Sounds like you are fine. But still sounds like you are best suited to
    cultivating spin!

    Joseph

  14. Ravi said:

    did you lace up the wheels yourself ? I am guessing it 32-spoke wheels.
    any reason for going 32 as against 36 ? What kind of hubs do you have on
    them ??

    The wheels came with the bike. When this bike dies or I get bored of it
    and decide to build my own, I'll go with 36 probably.

    Quoted message said:

    i have found that it not always possible to go off-saddle when dodging
    potholes - especially during fast runs or downhills. i have found it
    almost impossible to spin fast off the saddle - more because i am afraid.

    I haven't tried anything crazy yet, but in the old days when I rode a
    track bike around I would do anything. The key to standing is making
    sure the crotch of your pants doesn't get stuck on the seat when you
    sit again. That can be bad. I didn't have a brake in the old days, but
    I do now. But I still haven't used it!

    Quoted message said:

    also, have you weighed your bike yet ??

    Not yet!

    Joseph

  15. Ravi said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:

    http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
    http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg

    awesome bike !!

    Quoted message said:

    Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar

    47cm is really wide 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    18T Surley cog

    48x18 is about 70" gear. I run little lower gear - 39x15 = 68". it is a
    lot of fun going up not-so-steep hills and even more fun is going
    downhills. Sometimes when i ride with my friends, i would ask for a
    rest-break at the bottom of the hill rather than on the top of the hill 😉

    Quoted message said:

    This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,

    just be careful of stupid thefts when locking up... it is so nice that
    it will catch the wrong eyes...

    I own a lock, but I don't even know where it is. My bikes live in my
    garage, and this one will get to rest in the back room at work when I
    commute. I suppose I should dig out the lock in case I decide to ride
    somewhere fro lunch or something...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
    hands.

    some folks with large have double wrapped their handlebars - may be you
    can consider if it helps...

    enjoy your new ride, definitely it will cure all illness 🙂 get well soon...

    Thanks!

    Joseph

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